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notmyname
from France on 2007-03-16 09:32 [#02062967]
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copy paste from haswellstudio:
Warner Classics sign and announce the 2007 release of Haswell & Heckers' Blackest Ever Black album, entirely recorded on Iannis Xenakis' graphic-input 'UPIC Music Composing System' at CCMIX in Paris in 2004.
"...New to the label are the artists Russell Haswell and Florian Hecker. Their debut album, Blackest Ever Black to be released in early 2007, pushes the boundaries of contemporary classical music, while never losing sight of the tradition they are working within. Using the unique UPIC system of sound synthesis conceived by legendary Greek composer Iannis Xenakis, Haswell & Hecker create their sound-world using visual images - an electronic pen is used on a drawing tablet and the lines are directly translated into sound. Dan Fox, writing in frieze of his experience of hearing Haswell & Hecker live, said, 'I heard the sound of the blackest ever black and listened to the shape of leaves... [they] explore deeply human questions of how our senses apprehend and interpret the world.' Following the critically acclaimed Gyorgy Ligeti Edition and recordings of works by Mark-Anthony Turnage and Elliott Carter, Warner Classics is proud to continue its affiliation with some of the most challenging and important music being created in the world of classical music today."
Source: Warner Music International
via
http://haswellstudio.com/twiki/bin/view/HaswellStudio/WebHo me
ahahaha, can't wait to hear that, i saw haswell live in 2005 & it was wicked
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-03-16 10:32 [#02062990]
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they are one of the 6 acts on this years sonar i'd like to see.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-03-16 12:03 [#02063026]
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wonderful. Can't wait
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-03-16 12:33 [#02063035]
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Are the some audio files online of them playing the UPIC system?
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ilfed
from / (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-11 08:43 [#02092385]
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it's at boomkat and juno now at least.
been looking forward to this for a while too, wonder which version to get.. track times between the two seem to vary a lot. maybe this is worth getting both though.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-11 08:45 [#02092387]
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Sounds more interesting to read than to listen.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2007-06-11 09:59 [#02092417]
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I just checked the samples....wow....people are gonna buy this?
haha!
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-11 11:25 [#02092437]
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weird.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-06-11 16:19 [#02092595]
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they are one of the 6 acts on this years sonar i'll see.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-06-11 16:26 [#02092609]
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well, maybe not...
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mcbpete
from Devon (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-11 16:44 [#02092638]
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You can listen to photoshop.exe and have a similar sort of effect.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-06-11 18:03 [#02092663]
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I want one!
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-12 00:24 [#02092701]
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Perhaps even MSWord.exe!
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-06-12 00:34 [#02092706]
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photoshop.exe haha
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2008-01-19 18:32 [#02165363]
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man, this is some weird shit...and im used to weirdness from hecker. still pleasurably unpleasurable though.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-19 18:39 [#02165366]
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i thought this was going to be Bill Laswell & Tim Hecker.
would be much better :)
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ilfed
from / (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-19 19:18 [#02165370]
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what i think is so good about hecker is how strictly 'anti' it is. in terms of what carlsten said in your interview about emotion and the perception of it at certain time, hecker (when you look at him in the context of others in the 'scene') seems far 'ahead'. i really think that this may become a really big thing in music sometime in the future (bigger than what has happened already). this idea of looking at the way the brain relates to these things in a way that's much more 'precise' (as in phsychoacoustics as one part as opposed to things related to just emotion). i wonder what would happen to music if people could look at a brain and see what sounds are causing what effects, and if some aspects, like melody, become trivial when attitudes towards emotion are reevaluated (brain augmentation, robots ! etc ). imo.
the latest hecker release seems even more 'extreme' too, i'm really intrigued to here the newest UPIC cd on warp.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2008-01-19 19:26 [#02165374]
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well, i must say i take heckers music very emotionally..as opposed to some japanese reductionists who for example structure 10 frequencies in space of like 5 minutes only to make the brain belive the time was manipulated through sound...however hecker is very extreme at what he does within conventional music forms and i love him deeply.
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ilfed
from / (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-19 19:58 [#02165379]
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do you have any links to the stuff you mention? to me it seems at least in a similar spirit to hecker in some sense (at least increasingly so i think with each new thing thing he does). the exhibition that the latest hecker is for (Höller) especially seems so in some aspects.
i think maybe with hecker i used the words no emotion too narrowly, maybe better if i had said not 'typical' emotions, and more to do with sensations (as in things like pschoacoustic effects and as well the emotions they might inspire, like awe/confusion or whatever) and less of the usual emotions you could get from his 'peers', or at least emotions that define most people's ideas of what music can be.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2008-01-19 20:23 [#02165382]
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"or at least emotions that define most people's ideas of what music can be. "
i would agree on this i guess : )
here's an example of what i meant, though compared to what taku unami once played us, both sachiko m and nakamura turn out to be maximalists not minimalists in this vid :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2008-01-19 20:29 [#02165385]
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taku unami
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ilfed
from / (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-19 21:29 [#02165400]
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i think get what you mean now yeh (especially the taku unami one) - in that the 'philosophy' of it is much more strict / significant to it /established.
i suppose what i mean that i think of thinks like hecker, is that for me it's about that in one respect, but also about the possibilities of the physical sound itself, isolated. like, looking at what these sounds can do to the brain, and the method of arranging them being only to facilitate these effects rather than induce 'typical' emotions (as in conventional music) or appeal to an ideology that is concerned with human attitudes to sound (as in taku unami for example, as i understand it at least - but im not sure). which is why i make the point about the future and how these things that people like hecker maybe only hint at are capable of much more as understanding of computers and the brain increases.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-01-19 21:47 [#02165401]
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do you guys like coldplay
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2008-01-20 08:32 [#02165535]
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i guess i know what you mean, i must say that in a way i think hecker and unami are playing with the same ideas in their essence, it's just that unami is much more radical and hecker approached it from more conventional side of music...and while i can enjoy hecker greatly (specially live) i can't really enjoy unami as instead of the sound aesthetic he approaches it more from the philosophical side of things..and im all about sound i guess.
and yes, i like coupld of songs by coldplay!
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