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I've got a friend who's doing it everyday. Not a large dose, about 40-80ml in the morning and at night. I'm sure this can't be good. He doesn't accept the voice of reason, like when I tell him he's depressed the next day because of the hangover. He just does more. I've used google plenty so if any of you have some information or experience with it, please share. I think he should stop doing it. Maybe monoid can answer to this thread. |
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that shit is awful |
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its one of the only recreational drugs besides PCP and ketamine that cause direct brain lesions with long term use. Look up "Onley's lesions". |
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I've had it before. Everyday? Fuck, thats not good at all. Doesn't matter what it is really, moderation is key. |
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he's gonna mess up his brain |
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they're fucked |
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he's an idiot. and it will be very hard convincing him to stop. |
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show him my user name as an example of the results of chronic dxm use. |
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i dont think i could use dxm everyday. |
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actually ive found of all the heavy psyedelics/psychoactives (yes i know dxm is a dissasociative if youre going to nit pick), dxm is probably the easiest to do on a regular basis, in terms of how well your psyche handles it at least. (eg. i couldnt do mushrooms regularly, my brain just wouldnt be able to handle it) out of curiosity, how much is this guy doing per day? you say 40-80 ml, but thats all dependent on the concentration of dxm in it. if its anywhere above 350 mg, hes gonna be rotting his brain in no time, altho im sure at lower/below threshold levels its still gonna do damage, but once youre hitting the third or fourth plateau, thats where the real damage starts. |
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i have a trip report online here that is my own reminder never to do dxm ever again. in case you have some time to waste you can read it |
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just to clarify, there was most probably more than just dxm in those gel caps, which is a big mistake, AND he crushed up the xr caps, which is exactly not what youre supposed to do as dxm needs to be dissolved in the stomach in order to react. |
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its my own trip report. i had done research on that stuff for weeks prior to that experience. Had i not crushed up the balls (the gelcaps don't cause the extended release effect) i might have been tripping for god knows how much longer. And how does crushing something up prevent it from dissolving in your stomach? dextromethorfanhydrobromide-monohydrate is for all i know, DXM and is listed as the ONLY active ingredient in those caps. |
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ok, well ill trust you on that dxm was the only ingredient; im only skeptical of that because in the us you cannot buy capsules with strictly dxm, theyre always combined with other nasty things which at the dosage at which you trip either kill your kidneys or make you vomit blood. dxm does however have to be swallowed in pill form or suspended in an alcohol solution to have the full effects; otherwise not all of it will reach your stomach. on second read, seems you had a pretty normal dxm trip really - double vision, closed eye visuals, the robowalk, and of course dissasociation. as you said, guess its just not for you. |
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He does about 40-80ml in the morning and at night. 5ml = 15mg dxm. There are some other things in it too. He also likes to take these doses with rockstar energy drinks or coffee. He also used to take these with gravol but stopped because drowsy is the opposite of what he wants to get from the trips. Btw thanks jackeroffer, looked that up and found a great read on erowid. Showed it to my friend and I think I scared him away from the shit. Well I hope. |
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"other things" = bad bad bad bad! hopefully youve scared him off tho. its a silly drug, and one that's plagued with lots of ignorance. |
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You're describing a migraine. |
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the first last and only time i ever took dxm was at an autechre show i puked 4 times and felt nervous all night and couldnt even really listen to autechre for most of it cause the bass rattled my tummy tums |
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how many times do we have to tell you this, having migrane is not like beeing on drugs |
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shit i never knew ketamine gave you brain lesions. i used to destroy the stuff mixed with LSD and pills. kind of explains a lot though. |
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When I was a senior in high school (I'm 24 now), my friend and I found out about it in the lovable vaults of Erowid. Both of us had tripped numerous times on 'Cid and shrooms, and we were stoked that there was the possibility of having a trippin good time legally and without the hassle of scoring. Now the idea of drinking a whole bottle of cough made me gag so after we found the dreaded CORICIDIN, we indulged. That was the first of numerous times. Numerous AND increasing as the time went by. DXM was super fun for the longest time (2 years, doing it ON AVERAGE 2-3 times a week, sometimes more or less). But after a while, I had to take 2 boxes of Coricidin to reach the 3rd plateau. There were a couple of reasons why I stopped. The fact that I could actually feel the negative side effects of the other drug in Coricidin building up in my system, was one. The fact that it made me so unmotivated at all times (as in even when I was sober) was another. I had a problem with cough medicine! Am I a loser or what? The thing is though, DXM is deceiving. Weed enhances the buzz 10 fold, and brings out properties in the DXM that wouldn't normally show up. Weed, a 3rd plateau trip, and a completely dark room would take you on a journey that at least rivaled LSD. Imagine literally making your environment to your own design. Example: In a pitch black bathroom, I was SEEING myself taking a scenic and intense walk through some rain forest that looked like south america or somewhere. It was a fully interactive enviornment, and I could change it to suit my wants. It looked as real as reality. But fun aside, there were serious repercussions and If you want to know what they were, tell me and I'll tell you. AT ANY RATE, I apologize for the long post. This is actually my first post on this message board so HI EVERYBODY! |
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But fun aside, there were serious repercussions and If you want to know what they were, tell me and I'll tell you. I wouldn't mind knowing. Had some harsh experiences myself with weed and shrooms. |
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from my experience (which is very similar to our new friend michelnicholas'), the most noticable side effect has been poor word retrieval. im also just a bit crazy in general, but who knows if thats the drugs or not :P |
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Was that a temporary side effect? |
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nope, i still have a tendency to just get stuck when trying to think of particular words which i should and do know normally. (i was using dxm most frequently during the summer of 2002, and im 21 now, just for a reference point) |
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My friend is always saying "can't find the words.." :( |
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Ok then Gwely... As far as long term goes, this is only the noticeable effects, not including the stuff that may be damaged but are not showing signs yet. First off is my cognitive response. Now I don't know if it is the right term, but basically, it takes me longer to do just about anything in everyday life that requires heavy thinking. It pretty much GAVE me ADD, which hadn't been a problem before. It also gave me permanent (so far anyway) tracers. When something goes past my field of vision fast, I see a trail following it (That doesn't bother me really but it isn't exciting or anything). Physically, I have recovered fully (as far as I know), but for a few months after I stopped (2001-2?), I had a serious difficulty pissing and had to sit down most of the time. It is also addictive to people with addictive personalities. Now not many people LIKE dxm let alone get addicted to it, but it seems to me that the drug effects vary from person to person. Some people it just makes sick for hours and hours. I on the other hand, was a straight up C-Tard (a nickname me and my boy thought up, C=Coricidin...). As far as short term negative effects (and these can be dangerous as fuck if the dxm is ingested daily for an extended amount of time), you have mad dehydration. What is odd is that dxm makes everything taste odd, making beverages sometimes taste unpleasant. That, and depending on what plateau you are on, you MAY just forget to drink! You can sometimes tell when someone has been binging is after 1 REALLY hard night or 2-3 moderate nights of binging, the eyes tend to sink back a little, giving a person a hollow look. I dunno, I'll write more tomorrow as I am getting sleepy. Parting words: I last ate DXM last April. Good times of course. I found out then that when done 2-3 times a year, you can partake in the DXM and have a wonderful experience, with no lasting damage. Also, if someone tells you they hit the 4th plateau, they are probably lying, as it is hard to get to that point. |
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wow! i learned, or rather, recalled a lot just by reading through this thread. i was like, dxm?! they must mean dmx. but shit, when hedphukker described j198's trip report with the robowalking and such i was like, damn sounds like coricidin and then michelnicholas' post confirmed that thought. so yeah, fuck that shit. i've only done it once and i took a sheet and a half, that's like what, 12 pills. i probably wouldn't of thought it was so special if i hadn't been surrounded by half naked 17 year old grrlz. they can get me to do anything. who can turn down the chance to snort coke off of a hot chicks ass? anyway that's another story for a different day. i had no idea what i had gotten myself into. started by taking a whole sheet around 9pm or so. had to be at work the next morning at 7 am, 10 hours later. lol! stupid. sucky things were the grrlz only had the same ladytron album on repeat the whole time. i tried to get them to listen to the 2nd cd of 26m4$ (only aphex i had in my car since the 1st had been previously stolen out of it) but as soon as it got to the heart of it all the grrlz freaked out and turned it off. there was a balcony off one of the bedrooms upstairs that i had envisioned some type of cliffside costal community like a venice or some other medditeranean town outside and described to it some grrlz as they oohed and ahhed. then after maybe 3 hours of sleep i had to go to work. which of course i was three hours late. i looked like death frozen over and reheated in a microwave. people probably thought i was a ghost when i walked through the office. my boss figured i suffered enough through my actions to not heed any disciplinary action. i was so friggen depressed like so so so fuckin depressed afterwards when i was coming down it's like i figured everything inside and out all the way through and scared the living shit out of me. like i walked into another dimension and the door slammed shut behind me so i could never return again. just to reiterate; sucked. |
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Much of what he described is exactly like I'd describe my migraines |
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interesting! |
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Ok. I'm not going to blame the post for my actions, as I am in recovery as it is (Heroin 3-yrs clean), but I ate DXM last Thursday. I hadn't done it for about a year, and was quite apprehensive of what would happen, considering I was in a really horrible state of mind at the time due to a recent family conflict (Not drug related). So I went to the drugstore and asked the pharmacist for a box of Coricidin Cough & Cold. I went home, ate half a bowl of these thai noodles, then popped 12 of the 16 pills. About 15 min later, I said fuck it, and ate the remaining 4. Now I knew I was in for a ride as it had been so long since my last indulgence and I was also expecting to vomit at the 50-70 minute mark but I didn't. At about +60 min, I got a "Private" phone call. I never answer these. EVER. This time I did, then managed to spend an hour and a half blubbering my way through a conversation trying to work shit out with my family.... Dear god... Plus - Everything worked out ok with them, and after I got off the phone, I smoked some shrubs, watched Eraserhead, and smoked more weed. Great closed eye visuals but I didn't hit the 3rd plat. Felt a pleasant afterglow the next day, intensified by weed. Sorry for the long post. Just thought I'd share! |
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