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I feel a need to say something here but can't find the words to express my feelings. I think I liked electronic music more before I started reading everyone's opinions about it. But why be so genre specific anyway? I like music with a ceratain aesthetic to it, regardless of how it was made or what category people like to put it under. Afx sampled a real violon for the Richard D James album. That's not electronic. Is it breaking some kind of IDM rule? What the fuck is IDM? I really hate the term and I find myself using just because it's easier. Fuck it. I bought all Britney Spears' albums but after listening to them a thousand times I think I will listen exclusively to Christina Aguilera from now on. Her style seems to work better for me now. |
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Zephyr Twin is right. I too still have a great emotional response to electronic music, including newer records. Somebody mentioned the fact that many of these guys don't know much about melody or harmony. Even if that were true (and I'm not sure it is), there's lots and lots of music out there which is based in traditional harmony and melody. What's wrong with straying from that for a bit and exploring other things, like sound design, or interesting rhythmic patterns or whatever else a lot of these guys get up to? There's been louds of beautiful new "IDM" records out as of late. I know "Spokes" isn't that popular, but I think that it was Plaid's best release. "Druqks" has grown to be my favorite Aphex album, too, and I'm one of those weird people who actually loved "Confield" and all of Ae's later output as much as their early stuff. Then there's plenty of interesting stuff on Schematic and other newer labels, too. I still love classical music and folk most of all, but there's plenty of life left in this genre imho, and so much more to explore. |
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*louds=loads. Deary me. |
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I think its funny when people say that eleCtroniC musiC doesn't have good melody, beCause the musiC is not melody-based. There is definitely a large gap between melody vs loops, aCoustiC vs eleCtroniC. If you were originally just listening to eleCtroniC musiC for novelty, it will get old quiCkly, of Course. |
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You know when you set the time of a delay to short but the feedback ammount to really high and it makes that richard devine high pitched sound? Well, at least when it gets to the point when it continues itself. Thats self oscilation. It sounds different than filters. |
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I'm a bit bored with this thread. |
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Get the fuck out of it then. |
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I'm in the middle of a Sonic Youth album bender at the moment and it's good. |
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people have every right to be bored with current IDM because it's fucking stagnant as shit. does that mean interesting things aren't being done with electronics? i don't personally think so. but if you want to glean enjoyment from new musics, or even glean new enjoyment in the general sense (from new music, old music, etc) it takes some fucking effort on your part. i can't think of a single genre of music (genre as a unit is a bit arbitrary but oh well) that i've ever extensively immersed myself in that i didn't have problems with when i was first exposed to it. from most of the self-mythologies people here have shared about how they came to this music, i don't think i am at all alone in this respect. bottom line is that, in my experience, sincerely investing in things is almost always its own reward... i don't see why anyone would draw a distinction between music that is entertaining and music that is challenging (or "intellectual" or whatever): i don't think i know of anything that is more entertaining than the feeling of being somewhere that you've never been before. and i don't think "old age" is any sort of excuse to not challenge oneself, unless you are content to be nagged by that "stuck in a cul de sac" feeling. i have no idea to whom i am addressing any of this shit, and i think it might be latent with contradictions but i guess i'm just sort of amazed that some people seem to have chosen these particular musical waters almost as a permanent destination... at times in spite of themselves even! i don't think it's wrong to "retreat" to other older stuff, because it's always going to be informed by all the things you have heard in the interim. and for a lot of us, returning to the music our parents listened to (or whatever) isn't really returning because we were hardly (or never) there to begin with. that said i think there is a difference between that sort of personal journey and the experience of being a part of new music as its happening... and i'm going to contin |
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err... i'm going to continue craving that sort of experience indefinitely (i hope). |
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I'll admit I came into this scene pretty late. I think the problem is Cookie Cutter IDM is basically an Amen Break with 3-4 other beats mashed up in a step sequencer with stretch & echo effects on voices and some sort of dance melody thrown in. the themes are usually dark with everything but the melody is happy as shit or slightly sad. The real innovation is being kept back because everyone wants to sound like aphex in Druqs or BoC (i dont listen to them)and AE in Draft... people also use the same equipment and drum programs... |
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ignor that post. i am sleepy goodnight. |
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