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Jaser
from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-08 09:20 [#02047092]
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Is just me or is body riddle a bit shite. I have listened to it about half a dozen times, before making this considered opinion.
I liked hello everything the first time I listened to it unlike everybody else who seems to have hated it until listening to it lots and saying it is ok.
Basically is it just me or is there a lot weak releases around?
P.s Can't wait for the new Astrobotnia!!!
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-08 09:23 [#02047096]
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There are a lot of weak releases around. "Hello Everything" is the weakest, most disposable album I've heard, and anything I hear of Clark just says "Ohh, I wish I was Aphex... anyway, I did a loop and made it loud", I'd no more buy his fucking album than stick a cocktail stick through my bellend.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-02-08 09:27 [#02047104]
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I love this album. Really detailed and generally pleasing. Yeah sure it takes influences from all the greats, but I kind of like that about this release.
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ebolawasher
from Dublin (Ireland) on 2007-02-08 09:28 [#02047106]
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I've only listened to it one, but I'm fond of his perc stuff.
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Jaser
from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-08 09:28 [#02047107]
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You hardcore opinions are much appreciated. None of this sitting on the fence bull : )
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-08 09:31 [#02047112]
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i like the recent Clark but the mastering seems awful, on body riddle, throttle clarence and throttle furniture - pointlessly loud and distorted. i remastered the tracks and they're pretty good.
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Jaser
from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-08 09:32 [#02047115]
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Do we all think this percussive style creates a more indie sound away from the standard electronic techno, dance & acid audio sound palettes?
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-02-08 09:33 [#02047116]
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body riddle has pretty amazing ambiances, imo... i like the album, mmm yes i love... yesterday i was at the d_b cafe...
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-08 09:46 [#02047130]
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Expand on that a little bit, forgive me, I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "percussive style", like emphasis on a certain type of percussion sound of... ?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-08 09:57 [#02047145]
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but if you had to choose between sticking a cocktail stick through your bellend and buy his albums, which would you do?
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2007-02-08 10:16 [#02047161]
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I really liked Throttle Furniture but Body Riddle isnt too good
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Jaser
from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-08 10:22 [#02047164]
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my sentiments exactly.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-02-08 10:26 [#02047167]
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i agree
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-02-08 10:28 [#02047169]
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throttle clarence isn't bad either
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-02-08 10:28 [#02047170]
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Technically superb. Musically wank.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-02-08 10:29 [#02047171]
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so now it's cool not to like body riddle?
okay then.
yeah i fucking hate it too. complete shite. what was he thinking?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-08 10:36 [#02047172]
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Who said "hey gang, don't you know Clark's for squares? Come on, slag it off, look cool"? You're revealing more about yourself than any perceived herd opinions. I'm just saying I don't like it, not making myself out to be the maverick arbiter of musical tastes, suggesting all should follow me.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-02-08 10:39 [#02047174]
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i'm sorry but it always seems to look that way. it's like being back at school sometimes
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-02-08 10:40 [#02047176]
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and anyway, i was rather commenting on the general consensus. your reaction surely says something about you too
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-08 10:40 [#02047177]
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I'd stick my cock through a Clark album.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-08 10:42 [#02047179]
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MY comment says about me that I find it suprising that people who presumably have left school still go on about things like "Oh apparently it's cool to have a certain opinion" or going on about non-existant cliques. You're right, sometimes it is like being back at school, and I fucking hated it.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-02-08 10:50 [#02047181]
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like i said before. i wasn't initially even responding to you as a personal dig. your assumption that i see you as 'the maverick
arbiter of musical tastes' is certainly telling
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-02-08 10:57 [#02047184]
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to be perfectly honest the last clark album, body riddle sounded like something below average found on WATMM expert knob twiddlers. in my opinion it was shockingly low quality. i love throttle furniture, but boddy riddle sounds like it was produced by his younger brother whom he was teaching to make electronic music in real time.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-08 10:58 [#02047185]
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I really love the new Clark album. It's very atmospheric and beautiful to my ears, with great production to boot.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2007-02-08 11:19 [#02047187]
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body riddle is the first clark release i've liked 1,2,3 5,7, are all great tracks
some ideas seemed borrowed, but hey. a tune i like is a tune i like i suppose
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-08 11:21 [#02047190]
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Well I was just talking about me and my opinions in general, I wasn't suggesting you use my comments as a barometer of some perceived coolness.
Fucking hell this is a stupid conversation, "cool not to like something", grow the fuck up.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-08 11:24 [#02047191]
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I didn't meant to be that harsh. Oh who cares?
Body Piddle. Musically it's really good but because lots of people like it I'll just say I don't like it to make myself different, even though I secretly don't actually like it, I'll pretend I do but I choose not to, or the other way round. Whichever's cooler.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-02-08 11:28 [#02047194]
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there's nothing immature about noticing trends
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-08 11:31 [#02047197]
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Maybe there is something a bit weird about making them up though. Are you training to be a journalist?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-02-08 11:43 [#02047213]
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well actually, since last november, the number of people admitting that they like the album has dropped by 47%
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-08 11:56 [#02047232]
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This is the sort of question that only a poorly worded Woofty poll with an unhelpful and ill advised selection of options can resolve.
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jules
from United States on 2007-02-08 16:17 [#02047502]
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i for one absolutely love clark and i find body riddle no less than stellar. empty the bones is perfect for me, but body riddle is right up there...i feel like its kinda short though, i wish it had one more track.....and i wish ted was longer......but autumnal crush is just perfection...
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funkadil
from United States on 2007-02-08 17:01 [#02047542]
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I listened to it and found it glitsy. But boring. The first one I heard was better and much more of a head trip.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-08 17:03 [#02047546]
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It wasn't even good enough for me to listen to once, whatever it is.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2007-02-08 17:06 [#02047549]
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it does happen you know, some people get opinions from other people
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-08 17:32 [#02047567]
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cillit BANG!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-08 17:39 [#02047568]
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I quite like the overly loud, fairly distorted sound of the album. I think it was deliberate, as it calms down during some moments...It's not like "Ultravisitor" or something, where I found the mastering to be a result of a drunken enginneer's bizarre tastes, rather then a sensible choice.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-08 17:43 [#02047570]
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i like it. it didnt make my top 10 of last year but i still stick it on once in a while. its nowhere near as good as empty the bones of you in my opinion but its still decent. like CS2x said the loud, distorted production seems intentional and i feel it adds a sort of crummpf to it.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-08 17:43 [#02047572]
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although it sounds shit on a naff stereo.
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-02-09 02:23 [#02047709]
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"Are you training to be a journalist?" ha!
i pretty much like this album. some tracks i love. other tracks bore the fuck out of me, but theres the whole -i'm happy to listen to it anyway because the album works alright as a whole and the good tracks make up for it- scenario going on.
that said, i fucken loathe the nanou track, whatever its called. and the EPs were really enjoyable too. i wouldn't say theyre better but theyre still definitely awesome clark music.
watmm mentioned ted EP coming out in march, which i'm looking forward to, but havent seen any mention over here.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-09 03:57 [#02047727]
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I'm actually listening to this while reading this thread. What's everyone's wanking about how Clark sounds like he wants to be Aphex Twin. That's absurd bullshit. If you make music, you make music out of influences, and that's what Clark has in his music, influences by aphex, doesn't mean he WANTS to be aphex. I do know what eveyrone means, since Night Knuckles sounds like Aphex's Nannou track off of Windowlicker LP. But that's besides the point. I like the album more now that i've listened to it a couple of more times nonstop, and i keep discovering new stuff. Plus i'm just glad that he stepped off abit of the "Ceramics is da Bomb!" and "Empty The Bones Of You" bunch, they sounded too much the same, same beatsamples, same samples in general, etc etc. Ok times up! Back to college
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-09 04:17 [#02047735]
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I agree with you. Sure, there's an Aphex influence in there, especially in that Nannou-like track, but that doesn't mean it isn't an enjoyable and accomplished album. I actually find Clark's sound quite distinctive, and there's a lot of elements in "Body Riddle" which are unlike anything I've heard from Aphex Twin or other electronic artists.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-09 04:20 [#02047736]
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*other electronic artists in the same genre.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2007-02-09 12:13 [#02047945]
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Most of Chris Clark's stuff is boring really. I quite liked Ceramics is the bomb EP thing, but the rest is a bit rubbish. He uses a very similar percussion sound in loads of stuff which gets boring very quickly. I've done a similar effect myself with saucepans being scraped with cuttlery and speeded up and sliced...
He played a local pub and I didn't go because of the weakness of his output, even though he is probably the only warp artist to play in St.Albans (where he comes from originally).
I suppose the good thing is I get to bore you guys with the fact I've been to Clarence park loads of times... how IDM am I !!!!
Yeah body riddle is typical of (Chris)Clark and therefore I won't waste my money on it.
I agree with whoever said Hello Everything is disposable. The only track I would want to listen to again is Hello Kitty, which is also mastered really really badly. I played it in the car and there was no bass at all. Gave me a headache and tinnitus almost. I normally listen to a lot of dub, (not dubstep) when driving because it is calming and being deathly white I enjoy the odd looks I get with the windows down. Anyway when I put in Hello Everything, hello kitty played, bass was somewhere mid spectrum-ish and urgh yuk.
Thinking about it I'm stupid to buy Squarepusher, since the only stuff I like is feed me weirdthings and hard normal daddy. Maybe I should do what I do with Clark and not buy it unless it is good.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-02-09 13:35 [#02047973]
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can't wait for the new Bonnie Tyler
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-02-09 13:37 [#02047975]
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indie sound ?? please
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2007-02-09 13:43 [#02047980]
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you guys should listen to xploding plastix and see where he really gets his ideas from
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gravity_again
on 2007-02-09 13:58 [#02047988]
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It's one of my favourite albums from 2006 but it really is kind of short.
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staz
on 2007-02-09 14:40 [#02047995]
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i don't mind people showing their influences at all. if that was the case, i would scoff at detroit for wanking over kraftwerk for roughly 20 years too. it's just that the album is so freaking LOUD, i think it's way too abrasive and plasticy. like punching plastic buckets.
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OK
on 2007-02-09 19:32 [#02048142]
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i listened it yesterday and hated i a lil bit less, in fact I thin i kinda liked it. but the track 'ted' still sounds awful to me. worst of the album.
but yeah chis clark, i find him not interesting at all. much like snares.
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