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child810
from boston (United States) on 2007-06-19 17:52 [#02095283]
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Yeah this will be interesting, I wonder if Rockstar will change the game, I hope they offer the original uncensored game online. This AO rating will only give the game more attention.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-19 18:07 [#02095287]
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w.t.f. so the later G.T.A. games were considered suitable for non-adults?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2007-06-19 18:25 [#02095297]
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The good thing is, the target audience for games like this are mostly people who were raised on video games, and now have paying jobs and a desire to spend our money on these products. Even if Wal Mart won't carry it, for example, we can and will still buy our copies elsewhere and we can afford to do so. Can these stores afford to not sell to us? We'll take our business to the fuckin' streets! (or the internets)
Rest assured, those who want copies of Manhunt 2, GTA4 and Sonic the Pr0nhog, will get their copies in one way or another. Rockstar knows this otherwise, they wouldn't have spent the money developing these games (especially Sonic the Pr0nhog).
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-19 18:29 [#02095300]
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... Sonic the Pr0nhog? What's that, dare I ask.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-19 18:32 [#02095302]
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google:
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-06-19 18:34 [#02095304]
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Haha! Herpies blogs? Can someone explain why those exist?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2007-06-19 18:43 [#02095307]
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its a Flash game
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-06-19 19:13 [#02095318]
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Crunk Hunt
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-19 21:25 [#02095360]
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There's a whole sub-culture of people that have a sexual fetish for Sonic the Hedgehog. I apologize in advance.
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2007-06-19 21:48 [#02095368]
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Genuine lol
I want to join up!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-20 02:37 [#02095415]
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fuck me, that's highly disturbing.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-06-20 04:13 [#02095421]
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Yep. Comet/Dixons/PC World etc. have taken controversial (non-banned) games off the shelves before now. It hasn't dented sales though because as you say 99% of people buying it are adults who have the werewithal and means to buy it elsewhere. The slight loss of walk in sales from these sort of places is offset by the extra sales generated from the publicity (which ultimately amounts to free advertising) of the boycott in the press.
Only thing is, an actual ban is harder to circumvent. The only game I believe has been banned in the UK in recent memory was Carmageddon, which was a PC game (yes, it got ports to consoles later, but that was post ban). In that case, it was fairly easy to patch it to censor it, then release that. They then later released a patch to uncensor it! I don't know how easy it would be for your average user to restore censored content in manhunt 2 on a console, but I'm sure the hackers and action replay/modders will find a way though (and rockstar will probably leave the objectionable content in the final disk anyway, even after the hot coffee debacle). I suspect it'll be a bit like the game of The Punisher, they'll probably release a version with the truly horrific bits blurred/censored in some way. Arguably this is worse as it encourages people to use their imagination of the acts being commited, but there we go.
Personally, I don't see how the game can be any worse than films like Saw/Hostel and the aspect of being involved in the bloodshed (because it's a game, rather than a passive viewing experience) doesn't really count for much IMO, unless the player already has pretty serious mental health problems.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2007-06-20 09:05 [#02095461]
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can't wait for this on wii. looks sickly good.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-20 09:12 [#02095464]
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Apology accepted, but now I owe you one 'cause I didn't click.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-06-20 10:00 [#02095479]
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what is the hot coffee debacle?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-06-20 11:16 [#02095494]
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The supposedly 'hidden' sex mini game in GTA San Andreas. Do a google on it and you'll find out all about it.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-20 13:34 [#02095526]
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She may be a total freak, but the founder of that fucked-up forum has a cute ass
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2007-06-20 18:16 [#02095601]
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"the aspect of being involved in the bloodshed (because it's a game, rather than a passive viewing experience) doesn't really count for much IMO, unless the player already has pretty serious mental health problems."
i agree with that totally. personally, i know there is a certain disconnect i feel while playing a really well built game that I don't get from watching movies. Like, if a cell phone goes off during a movie, it can totally ruin a scene for me, but if my cell is blowin' up while I'm trying to reclaim territory in GTA:SA, I won't even notice it. But that doesn't make me more likely to shoot up the 'hood outside my house.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-20 18:19 [#02095603]
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People need conduits.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2007-06-20 22:53 [#02095657]
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there's rumors here in the States it could be rated AO, but Gamestop has said that the game will only be rated M. Apparently there are efforts to ban it here, besides dumbass Jack Thompson. They're called conservatives and old rich people.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-06-21 01:21 [#02095666]
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MANCUNT
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-06-21 03:27 [#02095675]
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On the subject of the other games that have been pulled recently (although to my knowledge, not banned by the BBFC). What do people think of these:
Fall of man - Sci-fi game, uses manchester cathedral's interior in one level. Church object to it on the grounds that it's disrespectful, particularly given Manchester's history of gun crime. Apparently there is some confusion over the permission to use it, but appears the company requested (and were granted) permission to use it, but it seems someone in a different position within the church objects.
Law and Order 2 - Uses actual CCTV footage of Jamie Bulger being kidnapped (non-UK people this was a kid who was abducted and killed over a decade ago). The victim's parents were not consulted and were appaled by the game.
To my mind, Law and Order 2 is unacceptable. Fall of man is fine IMO. If it was more of a real world scenario, or people were breaking in to the church (rather than a war spilling over into it), I could perhaps understand their grievance more.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-21 03:36 [#02095679]
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Law and Order 2 I can understand... disrespectful not to even bother consulting the parents about something so obviously distressing, and not just to the parents. I think many people were genuinely moved by this case at the time.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2007-06-21 11:58 [#02095827]
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If people are still so upset with Jamie Bulger then maybe they shouldn't be playing computer games. Perhaps crying uncontrollably is better use of their time.
If people want Manhunt2 they can just get it from some other country. This has achieved nothing, except increased my desire to brutally murder the BBFC. How ironic.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-21 12:09 [#02095828]
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I'm sure if a member of your family had been abducted and murdered (especially a young offspring) and then the CCTV footage of their abduction was used in a video game for no real good reason, without the developers' even having consulted you at all, you might feel a little aggrieved and distraught about it.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2007-06-21 12:37 [#02095832]
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So presumably I should call off my Where's Wally ripoff game - "Where's Maddy?" as well then.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-06-21 12:56 [#02095844]
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apparently a member of a dutch political party is now trying to prevent the game from being released over here as well.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-21 12:59 [#02095845]
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Everyone's trying to ban this game which is getting kind of annoying because of the media attention it's grabbing from other things. If only kids would get as worked up about something important as over a crap game being banned.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2007-06-21 16:46 [#02095927]
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imagine how many people you would hurt on that forum jetting sonic into a lavapit all the time while playing.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-06-22 03:13 [#02096051]
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Ha ha, I was actually waiting for a photoshop of that to appear at Somethingawful.com
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-11-05 11:16 [#02141084]
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So yeah, did anybody get this? Because I bought it over the weekend. PS2 version because I don't care about waggle in a game like this. The executions are... psychedelic. The PSP has been hacked to unlock the explicit stuff without the blurring and stuff, but I don't care because I never bothered with that stuff in Manhunt 1 and I won't in Manhunt 2. Atmosphere and gameplay are still rock solid, good enough for me. Great thing about the first game was the difficulty arc and building intensity throughout... things get pretty heavy later in the game against the Swat teams, I remember the gardens outside the mansion being fucking intense. Time will tell if this game matches it.
Kinda sucks that the mouthpiece guy isn't as cool and sinister as Brian Cox in the first game.
Reviews have been alright, though the game is still being a tad underrated because of the ultraviolence stigma.
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