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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 04:12 [#02038274]
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Fucking brilliant.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 04:15 [#02038275]
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and my bloody valentine apparently
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zero-cool
on 2007-01-26 04:19 [#02038278]
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*lol*
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 04:21 [#02038280]
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hmmm I don't think MBV are any more united than the last 15 yrs... kevin sheilds just said that there would be an album, eventually.
Jesus and Mary Chain, though!
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-01-26 04:46 [#02038289]
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I hope RATM comes to Europe sometime later!
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-01-26 05:04 [#02038302]
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Does anyone beleive that RATM, SP or MBV anno 2007 can deliver like they used to? I don't
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-01-26 05:05 [#02038304]
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I do.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-01-26 05:12 [#02038305]
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List your three favourite "ground-braking rockband decides to re-unite in their chubby mid-30ies cause they're bored" that has been any good?
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 05:13 [#02038306]
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well, i thought the last albums by both ratm (battle of los angeles) and pumpkins (machina) were their best efforts. So yes.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-01-26 05:13 [#02038307]
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Clumsy post, but you get my point.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-01-26 05:17 [#02038308]
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Ok. That's like saying that there is no such thing as gravity, but ok. "Taste is like the butt" like we say in Norway.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-01-26 05:18 [#02038310]
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Battle of LA was actually pretty good. But RATM released another album after that, didn't they?
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-01-26 05:21 [#02038312]
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Not rock nor mid-30ies, but for example, the Velvet Underground reunion for their show at the Olympia Theater, Paris, France on June 15-17, 1993, was quite awesome IMO...
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-01-26 05:26 [#02038316]
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i was totally in love with evil empire and mellon collie when i was younger, the only albums i had by these artists...
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ebolawasher
from Dublin (Ireland) on 2007-01-26 05:28 [#02038319]
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Rage Against the Machine's Rage Against the Machine is the album that turned me on to music. It's in my all-time top 5.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 05:28 [#02038320]
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two, but they werent studio albums written by the band. The first was a covers album, the second was a live album. If you want to be fussy, then pumpkins have released at least 3 albums since machina, but the same thing applies.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-01-26 05:30 [#02038322]
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Well. If RATM release a halv-decent record, I don't care, but if SP, one of my all-time favourite bands, makes an ass out of themselves, I will be MAD!
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-01-26 05:30 [#02038324]
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Did u saw RATM at the Doctor Music Festival? Or in Barna? Or anywhere?
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-01-26 05:34 [#02038329]
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In My world, they haven't released anything after Mellon Collie. My world is a strange but comfy place :P
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-01-26 05:38 [#02038331]
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unluckily not... i was too young for live perfomances when i liked them, and later i was into other stuff and i hadnt any chance to see them...
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-01-26 05:39 [#02038332]
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jajaja!
"too young for live performances"
a petty, I tell ya!
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 05:40 [#02038333]
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party on dudes.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-01-26 05:41 [#02038334]
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hehe a petty, i tell me! did you ever see them live?
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 05:50 [#02038338]
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tom petty?
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-01-26 05:53 [#02038339]
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Doctor Music fest...
WHOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-01-26 05:57 [#02038342]
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*pity
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-01-26 06:13 [#02038344]
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*pity
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 06:15 [#02038345]
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*heartbreakers
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uzim
on 2007-01-26 06:43 [#02038351]
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i've heard that the Jesus & Mary Chain were also reforming...
i'm not too enthusiastic about this. i only have one Jesus & Mary Chain album (which i like very much) and one by My Bloody Valentine (which is ok) so i won't venture to say anything about them, but i do fear about the Rage Against The Machine and Smashing Pumpkins reformations. especially for the Smashing Pumpkins - there are plenty of reasons to be worried.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-26 07:23 [#02038355]
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really? i really didn't like machina at all. the production on it was awful and the songs were really poor, especially when compared to siamese dream, MCIS or Pisces Iscariot.
they're probably my favourite rock band ever, so, like uzim, i'm not feeling 100% great about this.. i mean it'd be great to see "them" (it'll be without darcy of course) play live, but if they put out an album, i think it'll probably be crud, given the quality of their last album as the pumpkins and corgan's solo work.
aphextriplet, do you have Billy's Gravity Demos? they're a must-have, probably the stuff by them i still listen to the most. really high-quality demos -- there's a remastered version that i have that's absolutely perfect -- and contain many of the full versions of the snippets that appear in the pistachio medley from the ZERO ep.
if you want, i'll upload it for you.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-01-26 07:52 [#02038358]
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Billy is a very talented guy but he's also a flaky weirdo. I'm very interested to see how this turns out. It could wail or fail.
RATM and MBV are less versatile and I can't imagine them doing anything interesting, so I dunnooo... I loved their old stuff and never wanted anything more.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 08:46 [#02038385]
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i don't. I'd love that, thanks.
My fav stuff is on aadore - but only when it's played live.
Daphne Descends live blew me away on jool holland, as did ava adore. Great stuff.
I really, really like machina. Maybe it was a time and a place album for me, but i loved it. I hate that i never listen to melancholy just because it's recorded so damn quietly.
One day i'll do my own remastering to get it up to a half decent volume.
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uzim
on 2007-01-26 08:51 [#02038390]
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"the production on it was awful"
> i still find the sound on Machina to be a real improvement compared to the butch(vig)ered, over-compressed sound of the previous albums... (it's pretty much the only thing i don't like about them)
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AlfredPMcLovely
from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2007-01-26 09:29 [#02038407]
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Wow. I figured xlt would appreciate MBV more than this thread seems to indicate. MBV's Loveless is a far greater album than anything SP or RATM have put out, and I'm a rather big fan of the Pumpkins. Loveless is a classic. Something any Fennesz fan should pick up. Something anyone here should pick up,really.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-01-26 09:35 [#02038410]
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MBV are less versatile and I can't imagine them doing anything interesting
If I had no interest in your opinion before, now it actively disgusts me.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-01-26 09:35 [#02038411]
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MBV would be far better appreciated if everyone bought "Isn't Anything" rather than the not quite as good follow up "Loveless".
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-01-26 09:40 [#02038413]
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MBV and Loveless has been discussed many times on the mb. Only Shallow is maybe the best opening track in the history of music. Yes, I said "the history of music".
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 09:53 [#02038420]
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bell curve EQ to the extremes.
'isn't anything' definitely takes more listens.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-01-26 09:55 [#02038422]
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Hey, I agree with you about Isn't Anything! ^_^
But yeah, since then Kevin Shields has done nothing to move or interest or surprise me, so unremarkable his latter-day contributions have been that I wouldn't even know it was him
if I hadn't read it somewhere, so I guess I don't find his work very ear-catching or his skills very far reaching. So I'm not psyched for a new MBV. Ut oh!
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 10:01 [#02038425]
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If the MBV album comes out before 2010 I will be surprised, frankly... there really isn't anything to suggest this year will hold anything new for them.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 10:02 [#02038426]
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that pun wasn't deliberate, would you believe :)
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-26 10:37 [#02038443]
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yeah i'll upload that tonight.
as for the production.. i don't know - if you look at a graphical equiliser while playing machina, it's just maxxed out.. insane. i thought it just sounded plain noisy and distorted..
mellon collie too quiet? then turn it up full volume.. :)
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-26 10:54 [#02038455]
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OK,
instead of uploading it myself - i've just found out that the NSPAA (new smashing pumpkins audio archive) has been reborn as the RSPAA.
it is available here.
The gravity demos are in Demos - you might want to do some hiss reduction on them just to make them a bit more listenable. They're far better versions of the demos than were available a few years back.
This is a great site. I downloaded ~200 bootlegs over a 56k connection when I was a young teenager.. madness..
enjoy, and treat the site with respect.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-26 10:56 [#02038456]
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God, listening to it again..
With longing, Weeping Willowly, Rings, The Groover... Some of the best songs they ever wrote.. but never released :(
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-01-26 11:03 [#02038461]
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I better make some space on my harddrive.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 11:04 [#02038463]
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thanks mr rum. Or mr drum.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2007-01-26 11:33 [#02038475]
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i'd give my right arm for another siamese dream. well maybe not my right arm. maybe my pinky.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-01-26 11:44 [#02038479]
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