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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-12-21 04:35 [#02019979]
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I remember using noise reduction in cool edit years back-
basically highlight a "quiet" (in the sense that it only had
the background hum/whatever you were trying to eliminate)
bit, then get it to remove similar frequencies/sound from
the whole file. Nothing miraculous, but it improved things a
bit.

I was just wondering what the contemporary standard for
noise removal is and if there are any programs/plugins you
could recommend for it?

TIA


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-12-21 04:47 [#02019986]
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WAVES!


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-12-21 06:06 [#02020031]
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What kind of noise? You can use vocal reduction techniques
to remove hums.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-21 06:45 [#02020052]
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Perhaps we should all just shut the fuck up! Hows that for
noise-reduction? A plugin mostly used on other kinds of
pigs, is the Apple. Usually it's big enough to keep any
noise from coming out, while still allowing the subject to
breath. And it's biologically approved too!


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-21 07:09 [#02020060]
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yeah - the waves bundle has some great noise reduction
plugins


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-21 07:13 [#02020063]
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Audacity has a noise remover, but I've never actually used
it to remove proper noise...


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2006-12-21 07:19 [#02020073]
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i know this guy on this message board that goes by the name
"Noise"

i'm trying to get rid of him
>_>

<_<



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-12-21 07:30 [#02020082]
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A few different kinds (in different files) but all
reasonably low frequency, so highpass filtering should be an
option too. Loudly humming boiler in one, some weird tone
that I can't work out what it was (constant pitch like a
fire alarm in the distance).

Ta for the recommendations.


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2006-12-22 15:21 [#02020679]
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Constant pitch should be easy to remove. Do an audio
analysis of a quiet section with the tone present. i.e. a
FFT or whatever, so long as it is in the frequency domain,
locate the fundamental and harmonics of the tone and apply
digital notch filters on the whole track to kill them dead.
The digital filter can have mad settings like 1Hz bandwidth
and also doesn't cause phase shifts like a 'real' filter, so
it can be used like a scalpel with surgical precision.

Best cure for noise is not to introduce it in the first
place. Use balanced cables where ever possible and avoid
ground loops.
[sound on sound did an excellent article on this a while
back. I'm currently too tired to attempt a link, but google
it by all means]

Optimise levels to get the best signal to noise ratio and
try and drive A/D converters as close to 0dBFS (i.e. max
input) as possible so quantisation noise has less effect.
Use the lowest noise amps as the main gain elements. Ensure
inputs are high impedance, and outputs low impedance. Do not
use those 2 into 1 plugs, use a proper mixer so all the
inputs are isolated and buffered. Use decent cables.
Run D/A converters as loud as possible in software and then
reduce volume on the mixer, this stops bit reduction.
Since digital won't add noise, it's best from a noise
perspective to digitise a signal with a good A/D converter
as soon as possible and leave it in the digital domain for
as long as possible.

I'm afraid my knowledge is from an electronic perspective,
not audio, can't help to much with backround noise on field
recordings!


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-12-22 15:28 [#02020686]
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The one in cooledit is still brilliant. You just have to use
it the right way. Remove the noise, but not 100%, more like,
40% or something, and then create a new noise profile, set
it to 70%, and then a new, and then a 100%. You won't get
that metallic/digital sound to it.


 


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