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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2006-12-14 11:53 [#02017269]
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Worth the credit they get for being "influential in the development of heavy metal rock music"?
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-14 11:55 [#02017271]
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yes.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-14 12:02 [#02017275]
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One of my top 10-15 favorite bands ever probably. And I love how creatively reckless they were, it's not like they were just pumping out a bunch of heavy riff-rockers. There's a lot of eclectic goofy gobbledygook on the Ozzy-era albums.
(of course first and foremost they rocked)
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2006-12-14 12:03 [#02017276]
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you can't diss on those first 3 albums it's pointless
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2006-12-14 12:03 [#02017277]
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can't argue with that avatar
the thing is I really like them, at least when they had ozzy with them, but I wasn't around back then to witness whether they really were pioneering in that genre at the time. i guess i could read up about it, but i just want to know everyone's feelings.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-14 12:10 [#02017284]
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There were jillions of heavy amplified blues white-dude riff-based bands back then, and many predated Sabbath but Sabbath have aged a lot better than pretty much all of them, they're definitely worthy of the hype. Of course they didn't just pull heavy metal out of their thin air or anything. They didn't ''invent it''.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-12-14 12:13 [#02017285]
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according to some, they are the inventor of the heavy metal riff, as it were.
I wouldn't know, myself.
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2006-12-14 12:17 [#02017288]
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yeah, but they're pretty fuckin awesome
i like them more everytime i listen to tracks like "a national acrobat" and "war pigs." better than anything released in the last 10 years by far.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-14 12:19 [#02017294]
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Definitely not, stuff like ''invented this or that'' is pretty dubious, they werne't making music in a vacuum. I've heard plenty of heavy late 60s rock (Sabbath's recorded their debut in late '69) and there was tons of similarly heavy riffs being thrown around, there was nothing on their self-titled or Paranoid that hadn't been done before.
But they did it better and were a little bit heavier and the Goth thing was big so they should be commended \M/
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-14 12:21 [#02017296]
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A National Acrobat is a great underrated tune.
Symptom of the Universe I think is their peak. Just awesome, like everything that had come before taken to the next logical level.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-14 12:27 [#02017300]
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You ever listen to Electric Wizard? ''Funeralopolis'' might be my favorite Sabbathy track ever, heavy as shit, really similar sound to Master of Reality. There's lots of great latter day carriers of the Sabbath torch.
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2006-12-14 12:48 [#02017306]
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i think i've heard of them, but i've never listened to them. What's a good album to sample?
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-12-14 13:42 [#02017330]
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I had the good fortune of seeing them live. Much fun.
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staz
on 2006-12-14 13:57 [#02017335]
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they were amazing
i even like heaven & hell
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-14 14:17 [#02017341]
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Dopethrone, which contains the aforementioned Funeralopolis.
And Heaven and Hell is objectively awesome. But some of the worst CDs I ever bought had ''Black Sabbath'' written on the cover. The post-Ozzy years are hit and miss crazy style, gots to be careful but there's some gems.
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staz
on 2006-12-14 14:31 [#02017348]
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dopethrone is a work of genius
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paul8088
from United States on 2006-12-14 14:44 [#02017358]
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first album is the only one
such classy riffs
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2006-12-14 20:06 [#02017418]
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old sabbath is fucking awesome. my mom gave me sabbath bloody sabbath when i was a grade schooler and i wish i had the mentality back then to appreciate it the way i do now.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2006-12-15 22:57 [#02017991]
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The opening note to Ironman has made all other music obsolete.
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-12-16 00:37 [#02018009]
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Meh..
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-05-09 15:18 [#02203969]
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so i saw the new iron man film the other day and decided to dig out my copy of 'paranoid' ...good stuff. i like it when they sound like the end of the world, them really low, slow, heavy notes.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-05-09 15:54 [#02203974]
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When the drums kick in at the start of Iron Man it's awesome.
going to listen now just for that bit
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-05-09 15:57 [#02203975]
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wapa wapa wapa wapa tish
(oh yea, I'm spent)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-09 17:24 [#02204008]
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I downloaded some Sabbath -
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