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ecnadniarb
on 2006-12-11 10:24 [#02015915]
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5th one reported missing. Obviously there is a chance that some of the newer missing persons reports are a result of panic/hoaxsters but three murdered so far is a bit of a problem.
Maybe it is time that prostitution was made legal in Britain. I am aware of the issues around legalisation but I still think it would offer girls a safer option if they chose to take it.
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-12-11 10:24 [#02015916]
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Obviously I meant prostitute.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-11 10:26 [#02015918]
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Is this in Liverpool, Lee?
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-12-11 10:27 [#02015919]
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Ipswich area
We've just got a couple of gangland killings here.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-11 10:32 [#02015923]
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i was wondering when a thread on this would pop up. its just in time for christmas too! in regards to the legalising of prostitution i couldnt agree more. seeing a prostitute get dragged into a car and punched in the face by someone who i assume was her pimp made me feel that there has to be protection for women (and men) who are prostitutes. its the oldest profession in the world and will never be stopped so why not make it safer for everyone involved?
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-12-11 10:33 [#02015925]
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Has anyone read, "From Hell"?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-11 10:34 [#02015928]
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Politics is the oldest profession in the world - this whoring shit is a) a veil to hide them, b) a means of continuing the debasement of females.
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-12-11 10:34 [#02015929]
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It's an urban myth that it is the oldest profession in the world.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-11 10:35 [#02015932]
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properly legislated legal prostitution > shitty hide-in-a-shit-hole illegal prostitution where the prostitutes are just taken advantage of, yes
how is british law on this? I understand you don't have a constitution, but I don't know if that means it's easier to change legislation or not..?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-11 10:38 [#02015934]
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i thought it was the oldest in the strictest sense of profession as in goods exchanged for service? politics makes sense though.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2006-12-11 10:41 [#02015937]
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But on the plus side... it looks like I won't be a target at least.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2006-12-11 10:42 [#02015938]
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I totally agree that it should be legalised. Policed and run by women, because I beleive that as long as men are involved there is always going to be a violent aspect to it.
How did the customers pay for it if it is the oldest profession in the world?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-11 10:43 [#02015939]
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I have a feeling that "prostitution is the oldest profession in the world" is some feminist blabber about how women "had to 'prostitute' themselves (with their husband, for instance) to get privileges."
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-12-11 10:44 [#02015940]
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The policed and run by women remark is stupid. There are women who care as little about human rights as any man would.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-11 10:45 [#02015942]
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anything i assume, food, board, protection, the advancement of the human race, the secret of fire, a good spot next to the monolith.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-11 10:47 [#02015943]
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women don't necessarily run it better; there have just recently been two major busts near where I live, and in both cases the "main pimps" were women.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-11 10:47 [#02015945]
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both cases were also prostitution / human trafficking, btw.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-11 10:50 [#02015947]
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Even though the saying long pre-dates feminism? And I've never heard a feminist refer to it like that, especially without comment. More likely to be propagated by males, non-feminist males.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-11 10:53 [#02015952]
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Eh.. feminism, the way I was using it there, doesn't necessarily refer to any particular movement; women were in a sense feminists long before anyone went public about it. Women who were dissatisfied with the way things were. These were the more justified feminists.. today, most (aggressive) feminists are just self-stigmatising, but let's say you have three wives sitting around on a porch knitting way back in the days and one of them complains that her husband is so bad in bed and then they go all "why do we bother?" and one of them jokingly says "well.. prostitution is the oldest profession in the world" and then they laugh a bit and rock their rocking chairs as one of them finishes a mitten.
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-12-11 10:54 [#02015953]
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Hunters where trading their captured prey long before man would even remotely consider giving a female something in return for a fuck.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-11 10:56 [#02015955]
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i was thinking more of women offering themselves in exchange for stuff but yeh youre right.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-11 10:56 [#02015957]
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Yes, criminal women.
Prostitution doesn't necessarily require legalisation; better protection for the prostitutes would help. They need henry winkler to sort out their investments and organise them.
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2006-12-11 10:59 [#02015959]
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but how do you (as a government organization/agency) rationalize better protection for prostitutes if prostitution is illegal? i mean common sense says yes it works, but politics...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-11 11:01 [#02015961]
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it may not require special legislation, no, but they at least need to be included into, for instance, the normal.. eh.. I don't know if any translation of the title would work.. the part of the law that regulates conditions in the workplace like how long your employer can make you work, when you get overtime/extra late-night pay, how your workplace should be accessible for people who need a wheelchair and stuff like that.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-11 11:02 [#02015962]
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You certainly have females pegged.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-11 11:03 [#02015963]
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yes because that isn't a caricature
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-11 11:09 [#02015975]
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... is the oldest profession in the world. Yes, depressing, isn't it. What we need on a general level is more respect for women, better education, and a raising of respect, compassion, an end to Christianity, Rednecks, violence, and intolerance towards others who are not hurting anyone by their lifestyles/creed/race.
*Ascends to heaven on a chariot spreading Hallelujahs*
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-12-11 11:13 [#02015978]
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swears did it
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2006-12-11 11:21 [#02015987]
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Wasn't this on Miami Vice the other day? (On ITV4??) I think the police should watch that for clues/hints. If nothing else, pick up some fashion tips....
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2006-12-11 11:21 [#02015988]
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haha, it's possible, but not likely in the near future.
i like the way you think, though
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-12-11 11:24 [#02015992]
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What do the prostitutes look like in Amsterdam? Are they all hideous?
Anyone been there?
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2006-12-11 11:26 [#02015996]
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i saw a spot on jackass i think where they raced paddle boats with prostitutes. they were fairly hideous, but i can't speak for the rest of them with certainty.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-11 11:30 [#02016000]
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all the prostitutes i have seen in amsterdam were pretty rough. looked clean though...
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-12-11 13:22 [#02016047]
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bummer
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-11 13:29 [#02016049]
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Best thing to do if they're rough; I agree. Can't see her ugly mug then..
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-12-11 14:01 [#02016053]
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so the best way to fuck a prostitute is from behind because she's ugly
:takes notes:
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-11 14:12 [#02016055]
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Would a .pdf with diagrams be of any use?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-11 14:20 [#02016062]
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I never got any answer to that thing about english law...
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vveerrgg
from life (Canada) on 2006-12-11 15:20 [#02016099]
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in reviewing this thread....
black santa agrees. prostitutes need to carry guns.
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zero-cool
on 2006-12-11 17:29 [#02016194]
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oh my fucking god, this shit is crazy
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zero-cool
on 2006-12-11 17:32 [#02016198]
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funny how the police said "he may be.." "he", how do they know its a male?
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-12-11 18:06 [#02016224]
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Someone said to me recently that a hooker wouldn't get a page in the news in America..
a nice young white girl from a respectable home on vacation and lots of money...now that's NEWS!!.. and it is so true.
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nooredemption
on 2006-12-11 18:08 [#02016226]
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haha yeah definately wouldnt make the news
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-11 18:31 [#02016239]
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Well, the newspeople can't report everything everywhere ever, so they have to prioritise, and obviously a hooker is deemed to be lower on the social scale than a rich white girl. Probably, because things we identify with resonate most with us, and most people with power in the media are rich and white and have families.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-12-11 18:33 [#02016241]
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what if it's a rich white girl that got treated like a prostitute
:O
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-11 18:50 [#02016246]
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In that case, she would be seen as a victim of some heinous boyfriend or group of friends, or as a "spirited young lady whose vivacity was channelled in an unfortunate direction. Lock up your rich white daughters and kill all lower class people because they are probably scheming as we speak to corrupt and degrade her shimmering elegance and then turn her over to a psychotic Arabian cartel and murdered by a lazy nigger. This has been the ten o'clock news, time for the sport'n'weather."
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OK
on 2006-12-11 23:11 [#02016289]
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I'm sorry i can't control my strenght sometimes.
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-12-12 00:32 [#02016313]
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prrostitution MUST be made legal.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-12 05:24 [#02016353]
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Nor, it seems, your typing fingers (!)
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-12-12 10:44 [#02016456]
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Looks like they have found the bodies of the two missing girls.
5 bodies in 10 days and counting.
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