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offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-23 16:54 [#02006917]
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what the beat


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-11-23 17:23 [#02006923]
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http://xltronic.com/mb/87472/seinfeld-facts


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-23 17:27 [#02006926]
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ah shit, sorry


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-11-23 18:04 [#02006928]
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Stupid cunt. Good way of furthering a career


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-11-23 18:26 [#02006935]
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I don't really think he's a racist... I think he just let
his anger get the best of him.

I mean, I don't consider myself a racist either, but if a
black dude was talking a bunch of shit to me, I'm sure I
would get racially insulting too... it's just the obvious
place to go. Even if you don't say it outloud, you're at
least thinking it. And since he's all amped up and in
character on stage, I can see how he just spouted all that
shit, to be as insulting as possible.

But I don't believe he thinks he's better then anyone just
cause he's white, and to me that's the real definition of
being racist.


 

offline sneakattack on 2006-11-23 18:29 [#02006937]
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everything you said is invalidated by the "it's just the
obvious place to go" statement.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-11-23 18:40 [#02006938]
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Yes snakeattack is right. If your knee-jerk reaction is
'stupid nigger' you obv have some racial prejudices


 

offline somejerk from south florida, US (United States) on 2006-11-23 19:42 [#02006946]
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flipping out like that is unacceptable. if he's supposed to
be a comedian he should have insulted the interruptors in a
humorous way instead of using the n-bomb.


 

offline b6662966 from ? on 2006-11-23 19:51 [#02006947]
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Apparently the black folks that he directed the comments at,
did not even heckle him. The only disturbance they caused
was when their group of 20 people walked in mid show and sat
down, it distracted Kramer and he reacted by pointing out
"the stupid blacks and mexicans sitting down," at that point
someone in the group responded that he wasnt funny...then
the fireworks began.

The guy sounds like obvious racist, you cant blame it on
some kind of in-the-moment passion.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-11-23 20:31 [#02006950]
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What I mean by "its the obvious place to go" is that it's
the fastest way to cut the deepest if your trying to insult
a black man.

While I admit I may have some racial prejudices (every time
I see an asian guy driving I slow down a little) I do NOT
think I'm better then any person or that my culture is
inherently better then anyone elses.

I love black people. Geordi Laforge. But if some black dude
was in my face trying to start something, I know racial
thoughts would cross my mind... I'm just being honest here.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-11-23 20:37 [#02006951]
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and to clarify... I recognize my "light prejudices" as a
character flaw in my own personality. I have many just as
everyone does.

In a perfect world we would all be united with the singular
goal of exploring space and race would never be an issue.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2006-11-23 20:47 [#02006953]
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Haha! 'the singular goal of exploring space' fuckin'ell!
You racist nerd.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-11-23 20:52 [#02006955]
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In a perfect world we would all be united with the
singular
goal of exploring space and race would never be an issue.


YES


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offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2006-11-23 21:14 [#02006957]
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i think a vein burst in the back of m richard's head and for
some reason he thought the comedic stylings of "family guy"
would be appropriate at the moment. aka horrible, unoriginal
and "edgey"

but seriously i agree with wolfslice, if m richard's was
being heckled. if not, then maybe not so much.

and also seriously, family guy is the worst thing ever.



 

offline Mr Brazil from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-11-23 22:36 [#02006975]
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I often go straight to racial slurs on SoulSeek...even
though a few times I assume the person on the other end and
I are the same race. It usually doesn't work as a good
source of invective since they usually have a weak grasp of
English.

For some reason racial slurs put to whites seem to have no
emotional impact.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-24 04:32 [#02007076]
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I'm just a bleach-assed cracker ghost motherfucker. And
you're right, those words don't upset me at all.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-24 04:38 [#02007078]
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maybe he thought he was being funny?

I actually think it could've played out like funny if the
black dudes hadn't taken offence, but who knows.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-11-24 04:42 [#02007081]
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i take issue with the fact you assume everyone else has some
kind of prejudice


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-24 04:54 [#02007085]
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everyone does have some kind of prejudice towards something
otherwise you wouldnt have a preference for anything. youd
regard everything as being of equal value.


 

offline evils on 2006-11-24 04:57 [#02007087]
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Calling them niggers was bad enough but going on to say that
they should be stringed up outside is inexcusable!
Especially in America what with that whole slavery thing and
stuff, you know.

The fork up the ass bit was quite funny though..


 

offline evils on 2006-11-24 04:58 [#02007088]
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OK strung up before some anal cunt points that out...


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-11-24 04:59 [#02007089]
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yes quite, but i thought we were still talking about race?


 

offline uzim on 2006-11-24 05:02 [#02007090]
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nothing to do with Kramer (i don't know him anyway), but
this word can be dangerous, especially when you're a
foreigner/don't know it well... hearing it on hip-hop
records all the time, said all naturally like it's an
innocent word, would make you forget it's a very insulting
word if you ever make the mistake of saying it yourself.
' _'


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-24 05:03 [#02007092]
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Calling them niggers was bad enough but going on to say
that
they should be stringed up outside is inexcusable!
Especially in America what with that whole slavery thing
and
stuff, you know.

The fork up the ass bit was quite funny though..


the fork up the ass bit was where he was saying they
should (or rather, would've been) strung up..

it's not total hypocrisy in what you say, but it's
approaching it


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-24 05:07 [#02007095]
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ok then do you find certain types of female more physically
attractive then others?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-24 05:07 [#02007096]
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I'd say it's better that we hear nigger in neutral or even
positive contexts; it'll eventually loose its negative force
if repeated enough times in positive contexts

like if someone does something good that you approve of, and
you go "that's my nigger!" or something


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-24 05:17 [#02007104]
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don't hold your breath


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-24 05:19 [#02007105]
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it's already happening

niggers using nigger when they talk about each other, and
not necessarily in a bad way. that's progress, nigger!


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-24 05:28 [#02007109]
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thats not changing their attitude towards it being used by
anyone of another race though. Its changing it in to 'their
word' rather than 'the white mans word'.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-24 05:34 [#02007114]
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yeah, but if white men then also started using it in a
positive sense, don't you think that would have the same
effect? It'd require some time, and niggers would have to
stop being offended if a white nigger used the word (that's
self-stigmatising), but this is one of the words I don't
find it unlikely that it will happen to...


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-24 05:44 [#02007116]
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It could be like the 40s and 50s again when people called
their dogs or cats Nigger. Because they were black! It was
just a bit of fun.



 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-11-24 05:45 [#02007117]
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I call all my friends nigger, and where white. Were not
being rascist. We are making fun of caucasian middle class
high school kids that listen to rap, dress like thugs and
pretend that they go bombing on weekends. They are
rediculous.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-11-24 05:46 [#02007118]
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So, was the topic of this thread supposed to be ironic?


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-11-24 05:47 [#02007119]
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Sorry, title of this thread.


 

offline evils on 2006-11-24 05:52 [#02007121]
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"the fork up the ass bit was where he was saying they
should (or rather, would've been) strung up..

it's not total hypocrisy in what you say, but it's
approaching it "

It was a joke. You stupid nigger..


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-11-24 05:58 [#02007123]
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No no i see what you say. I was referring to racial
prejudice. Obviously i have discriminating taste with things
like women and food and music.


 

offline nacmat on 2006-11-24 06:00 [#02007125]
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I am 100% with kramer


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-11-24 06:20 [#02007129]
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You also have an oversized pink condom on your head.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2006-11-24 07:00 [#02007154]
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He'll probably be sued. Which is truly saddening. There is
no free speech. Its bad what he sad, but if he gets sued and
they win then this country is definetly shit.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-11-24 08:46 [#02007208]
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I just read an article that says he went off on some jewish
hecklers awhile back as well... and that he is Jewish
himself.

This should go a little way to help prove my point that he's
probably not inherently racist, but rather incabaple of
handling his agression tactfully.

here's the link


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-24 09:04 [#02007217]
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apparently he regrets it now


 

offline staz on 2006-11-24 09:06 [#02007219]
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"nigger" lost its weight a long time ago, but people refuse
to admit it.


 

offline b6662966 from ? on 2006-11-24 13:41 [#02007324]
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Michael Richards is NOT jewish, hes catholic. People assume
he is jewish because of the Kramer character (who ironically
had no religious association in the seinfeld show).


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-24 13:44 [#02007327]
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now, that's irony!


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-24 14:07 [#02007353]
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from wikipedia's article on Michael richards:

According to the two men who were targeted by the
outburst, Frank McBride and Kyle Doss, they were merely
ordering drinks after arriving late to the comedy club, and
not heckling. The two men, represented by Gloria Allred, are
planning on suing Richards in the near future.


For god's sake..


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2006-11-24 14:12 [#02007360]
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People assume Kramer or Richards (who has a big nose) is
Jewish because Sienfeld and Larry David are Jews and you
know how those fucking kykes stick together.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-11-24 16:24 [#02007488]
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Eventually there will be no money in the US because it will
all be tied up in lawsuits, and no other country will have
anything to do with them.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-11-24 17:22 [#02007520]
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Well his PR guy is saying he's Jewish.

"The New York Post said Thursday that two customers at The
Improv in Los Angeles said Richards used foul language in
referring to Jewish people after he was heckled on stage
last spring.

Rubenstein confirmed the incident, but said Richards was no
anti-Semite, and in fact was Jewish himself."

The link is in my previous post


 

offline oyvinto on 2006-11-24 17:25 [#02007522]
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IT WAS FUNNY!


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-11-24 18:16 [#02007552]
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i just wanna know what happened to his hair
:(


 


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