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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-23 07:30 [#02006679]
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Alex Jones is a fucking crackpot, and anybody who pays creedence to what he alleges really needs to rethink their beliefs.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-11-23 08:24 [#02006709]
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I heard they are can fire masonry out of their pupils, and if their bare heels touch the earth's surface they evaporate, which is why they always wear shoes with thick soles...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-23 09:03 [#02006716]
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Dunno about in other countries, but by and large, the Freemasons here are no more sinister than the Rotarians.
The power they have is fairly limited, as much as we criticise the govt. and the system, (partly thanks to the internet) we have a comparatively transparent government (both central and locally). This really stops them letting people off completely for serious crimes, etc. Sure, a magistrate who is a fellow mason might confer a less harsh sentence on the accused, but if they were letting all masons off the hook completely, all the time, there'd be a great deal of evidence that it was happening. Which there isn't.
My understanding of it is that it's largely a "favours for favours" drinking club for men. Yes, they have funny uniforms and mottos etc. but so do the scouts and that's hardly percieved as some world ruling cult. As an aside, there's a perception that it's the preserve of the middle/upper classes (probably where all the rumours of a ruling elite stem from). This isn't very accurate; go to my town's masonic hall and you'd see as many taxi drivers, builders and farmers as you would councillors and lawyers.
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2006-11-23 12:23 [#02006785]
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Gnositicism, they believed that there is no one way to God, but rather whatever truths may lead you to spiritual fulfillment is the proper way. I know they used to rotate jobs ie who was the priest and who read by casting lots.
yeah they too believed that the god of the old testiment was actually someone evil and he also created the world so therefore the world is evil. one must free themselves of all vices connected to this world in order to know God. To them its all a much more personal thing. I guess some think John the Baptist was actually Gnostic. If thats the case then its could tie to the freemasons, with their skull and cross bones symbols
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OK
on 2006-11-25 18:36 [#02007938]
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they are probably all dead, but had ideas and plans and carried a lot of these in the past.
i met a girl whose parents are in the rotary club, i thik it's just a club for rich people to know each other.
here in mexico there's this "secret" organization called 'El Yunque' (the anvil), it was born as an ultraconservative group that planned to make mexico a neo-franco like state, they hate masons, now i think it's just an agency to make favors, like, if you are n el yunque you'll have a good job. they have some power in local goverments and word is they're taking control of the presdency..
we'll see...
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-11-25 19:21 [#02007948]
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what does this have to do with laying brick?
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big
from lsg on 2006-11-26 03:18 [#02008076]
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i advise anyone not to read foucault's pendulum
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