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offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-21 03:10 [#02005340]
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is today

will you be participating?


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-11-21 03:17 [#02005343]
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it says "no music day exists for various reasons. do you
have one?"


i dont have a reason, so does that mean no-music day doesn't
actually exist? and if it doesn't, then neither could this
thread... or this post that i am typing right now!! (@_@;)


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-11-21 03:22 [#02005345]
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Hell noooo! I don't think I could, even if I wanted to
though really. How do you avoid listening to people hum that
walk past you, or not listen to the music when you go past a
shop/into uni/ into a lecture with a crazy lecturer who
plays music at the beginning of every class?


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-11-21 03:23 [#02005346]
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too late for me...


 

offline sin from United Kingdom on 2006-11-21 03:27 [#02005347]
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I'm dizzy. Is it the thread or is it Team doyobi? Is this
music or is it android bowels? Is it normal eating
breakfast to this?

TD's stereo imaging is wierd.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-21 03:35 [#02005348]
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yeah it's unavoidable in cases like those but you can still
choose to not play anything yourself, which i'm sure would
make a huge difference to most of us. we are surrounded by
it constantly, if everyone did it i think it could be quite
liberating. i'll do it.

I will be observing No Music Day by: Is this a bad
joke??? It`s not the first of April<....
I am observing No Music Day because: I love music!<3 dont
take it from me! u r old people wich dont have anything to
do!

musicjesus



 

offline DiaZoHeXagoN from The city of angels (United States) on 2006-11-21 03:40 [#02005352]
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wow this would be incredibly hard for me. I usually drive
about 2 hours a day and music is what keeps me sane. There
is always music playing around me. Thats rough man


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 04:02 [#02005364]
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I did sign up on there, then promptly forgot about it. But
I've just got up so I will not play any music all day today
in solidarity with my hero Bill Drummond.


 

offline avart from nomo' on 2006-11-21 04:03 [#02005365]
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...of course I won't be participating, music is too
important for me to care about grumpy old men and their
bitter ideas


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-21 04:08 [#02005366]
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i don't think it's simply a bitter idea though
look at diazohexagon's example which seems almost habitual
(i'm guilty of this too)
is that genuine appreciation or just routine?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-21 04:09 [#02005367]
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I won't be able to do any proper work on my paper if I don't
have music, so I'm out.


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-11-21 04:16 [#02005368]
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What's the main reason that a site like that is on the net?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-21 04:18 [#02005369]
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porn


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 04:29 [#02005370]
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An interesting read, as ever, by Bill.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-21 04:38 [#02005371]
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4'33" on repeat


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-11-21 04:53 [#02005374]
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i usually spend half a weekday without music at work so i'm
half-participating anyway


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2006-11-21 04:55 [#02005375]
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I do this one day a week anyway. It's really nice once in a
while i'll admit. No such luck today though. I have lots of
musical things to do.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-21 05:21 [#02005385]
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WHY

WHAT IS THE POINT?

sounds like a bit of a contrived attempt to get us to
imagine what it'd have been like, living in Iran in the 80s


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-11-21 05:25 [#02005387]
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it's pretty obvious, isn't it? our lives are saturated with
music, it can be nice to take a break once in a while, just
to help you reappreciate music or being able to listen to
music.

anyway, I pretty much do this regularly without really
thinking about it, so I won't be participating on this
particular day. but I do like the thought.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-11-21 05:32 [#02005391]
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I didnt think many people on xlt would have a problem with
not appreciating the music they listen to but maybe Im
wrong. I dont just put music on out of habit, and I take my
bus journey music time probably a little too seriously


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 05:36 [#02005393]
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I like on the site the way that the majority of the people
who think it's a good, or at least interesting idea, express
themselves calmly and with at least a tincture of humour,
whilst most people who are against it can only muster a
WTF??? FUCK YOU???!!! MUSIC IS LIFE YOU'RE DEAD.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-21 05:51 [#02005401]
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Interesting idea, but i already ruined the chance for myself
today


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-21 06:03 [#02005403]
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It's a KLF idea though, innit? I thought (due to that fact)
that it was some sort of political thing, or something with
more reason to it than that..

That's fair enough, as an idea; although i wouldn't go so
far as to say that it's a good or great idea. It's a bit
meh


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 06:55 [#02005417]
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Well, I think, reading what Bill Drummond says (little
Julian Cope joke), going from the premise "All music is shit
(Discuss)", rather than reject everything just because of
getting old, he wants a day to think about what he wants
from music. And that his projects are open for other people
to join with their own ideas, so you can have a No Music Day
but for your own reasons, it's just ... a suggestion, it's
not a call to ban music a la Iran in the 80s. It's a
suggestion for you to perhaps take a day out to evaluate
your relationship with music.


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2006-11-21 07:20 [#02005423]
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sorry, i didn't know that and played a few tracks when got
bored at work


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-21 08:16 [#02005442]
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what is it for? sounds like total shite


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 08:35 [#02005451]
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If I had to explain the concept of infinite space to someone
I think the ideal example would be the arid, flyblown,
barren landscape that is your mind.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-21 08:51 [#02005465]
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hu hu hu

well presumably there would be people who would try it to
test out their willpower, or to perhaps want to strenghten
their appreciation for music by seeing what it is like to
live without it for a while. blah blah.

but who came up with the idea in the first place, and what
other agendas are there? i just bet theres some boring old
fucks who "don't like music" who want to impose their
miserable puritanic lives on everyone elserh46r


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-11-21 08:55 [#02005470]
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have you even read the thread!?


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 09:03 [#02005473]
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You're not worth addressing because you're some sort of very
boring lumpen arsehole, but you, in this instance, like a
lot of people, jump straight to "WOT? NO MUSIC? FUCK
OFF???" because you never see beyond what you expect to see.


The point of the exercise was to address the question of
"All music is shite (Discuss)", it's an attempt to discuss
music and individual's relation to it, instigated by one of
the finest minds in art and pop music. If you listen to
music all day and everyday then that obviously means it's
something worth looking at (in the dubious sense anything in
your fucking life is worth looking at)

But you, being the brilliant young astrophysicist apply all
the incisive methodolgy you employ in your studies and come
out with "sounds shit" because you're a criminal waste of
materials and resources.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-21 09:12 [#02005477]
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actually, I'm curious about how those of you here who tried
this did.. did you actively listen to whatever wasn't music,
noticing it better, or was it just like sitting there
without music (when you don't pay attention the sounds of
the surroundings, but rather to what you're currently doing,
like posting about not listening to music on xltronic)?

I know I sometimes become conscious of the sounds my
keyboard makes when I'm typing or the sound of the rain
outside or the water going through the radiator, but it's
not something I bother with keeping my attention on for
extended periods of time, and it would probably take some
kind of extra effort to do it for a whole day... it'd also
be cool to pay more attention to the sounds of people
speaking, and not, as we usually do, to the content of their
speech. I bet it'd make most conversations seem even sillier
than they are...


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 09:23 [#02005480]
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Well 5 hours into it I've not consciously noticed much
beyond every time I think I'll put some music on I remember
not to. I don't know if it's so much to do with noticing
environmental sounds and that as to do with, being more
conscious of being in the here and now rather than being
transported away by music. So many times music is on and
it's annoying, as if it's just to replace silence or...
non-music, as if that was something to be abhored. I feel I
might be happier without music, it is a good day.

Ironically, or not, but the CD on top of the pile from
yesterday is The KLF's "Chill Out".


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-21 09:26 [#02005483]
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actually, i didnt think "WOT? NO MUSIC? FUCK
OFF???" at all. i thought it was a perculiar but interesting
idea that i would read more about when i had more time.

and i have no idea how you can come to a conclusion about me
as you did based on a few essentially irrelevant ramblings
on some obscure website. and where the hell did the
astrophysics come from?


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-21 09:27 [#02005484]
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and sometimes i do enjoy a lack of music, from time to time.
when tired or engaged in something else, usually.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-21 09:29 [#02005489]
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Pretty interesting article there. I'm convinced Björk is
inspirered by him.

"I even have fantasies about waking up to find that all
music has disappeared from the world. We can't even remember
what it sounded like. We knew we had music, we knew it was
important to us. In my fantasy we would have to start making
music again from a year zero situation, with nothing but our
voices. As I said, just a fantasy."

This is basically what her work "medulla" is all about.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 09:40 [#02005492]
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I don't know how I've come to the conclusion that you're a
fucking moron based on 4000 of your moronic posts. Clearly I
am imagining things and you spend a lot of time pretending
to be a moron.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-21 09:54 [#02005497]
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so it hasn't really made any impact outside of those
situations when you think you should put some music on?

If it was to make you more conscious of the here and now,
wouldn't that then imply listening more actively to the
surroundings? I mean, if you're doing what you normally do,
you're not really too conscious about being here now in the
moment, but you're preoccupied and immersed in what you're
doing. Like, I've been writing on my papers all day, and
when I'm writing, I'm not really too conscious of the world
around me.. I'll probably focus on it if prompted by some
unusual sound or someone calling my name or something, but
then only for a moment before I focus more exclusively on
what was calling for my attention.. actually, it may be
impossible to be wholly conscious of the here and now;
you're always more immersed in some sort of task or project
or whatever you may want to call it.

...

I'm confusing myself now, I need to get back to writing.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-21 09:55 [#02005498]
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aren't you doing something with geology on other planets?
you've talked about it, at least...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-21 09:58 [#02005500]
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oh, wait

I guess

long story short

whatever you're doing right now, even if you're "carried
away" by music or a book or your girlfriends eyes, that
is the here and now; it's impossible to not be
conscious of the here and now.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 10:09 [#02005506]
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Well, I suppose that's true enough, as well. I don't know,
maybe it has something to do with when does background music
become counter-productive, passive and active listening,
listening to music "for the sake of it" just to fill the
lack of music.. I don't think these things have
answers, and I am sure all sorts of scholars since
year dot have it all sown up already.

But I don't think it's a bad exercise to do and it does get
you thinking about "music" and its role, which I do think is
valid, in the broader question of "Is music getting
shitter?". Because whilst the music itself may not,
quantifiably, be any better or worse than music that's come
before, what may be getting "shitter" is our attitude toward
it and our manner of consuming it.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-21 10:12 [#02005509]
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haha YES!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-21 10:23 [#02005512]
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ah yeah, I know what you mean.. I never put on music "just
to have it there" though I do some times put on
background music. Mostly when working, but that's because my
attention tends to drift off from what I'm doing if I don't
have music. So, to be effective, I need the music to take up
the part of my attention that would otherwise float off into
speculation about some unrelated and often unimportant
matter.

but yeah, it's probably a good thing to do every once in a
while, especially if you feel yourself getting tired of even
the music you love.. it's probably all due to
oversaturation; even if you love something to death, putting
it on the top of the hit lists for a month would turn you
off it. That's probably where the way you consume it comes
into play; just like a chewing gum looses its flavour after
a while, being a hit can ruin any song. bla bla I hate mp3s
the end.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-21 10:26 [#02005515]
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Too late, but this is just fucking pointless.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-11-21 10:34 [#02005522]
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A day isn't going to make a difference, I've done this
before. If I did this for a week, or a month, it might be a
revelatory adventure.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 10:36 [#02005523]
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You're too young for it to have any meaning, you precocious
egg.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-21 11:04 [#02005552]
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your posts sound pretty moronic too at the moment - "if you
dont agree with me, you are a pathetic waste of space" seems
to be the general gist


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-21 11:05 [#02005555]
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and all the fart track name stuff. sounds pretty clever and
sophisticated to me.


 

offline ambsace from canaDUH. on 2006-11-21 11:17 [#02005563]
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it really is unfortunate that this has to be on my birthday.
i'll have to observe on the 23rd because...well. it's my
birthday.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 11:17 [#02005564]
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Can we talk about music in this thread and choose from among
your hundreds of shit ones to talk about my failure to
correctly identify you as an intellectual heavyweight there
instead?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-11-21 11:56 [#02005579]
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dunno what i would do all day long.


 


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