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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-11-14 04:40 [#02001806]
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Yikes
I know they aren't the same company, but you'd think they would wait until they could iron the bugs out of XP and other PC operating systems before they make a robot that is capable of intelligently targetting and killing people.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 04:48 [#02001807]
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We've had drone guns for years. This one is pretty cool though. Normally the military (for weapons systems) run quite old hardware and proprietory OSes to ensure they are free of bugs/security exploits that could be dangerous. For example, some AA guns run on 386s!
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-14 05:03 [#02001810]
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scary shit. if they were used in urban warfare, how could they recognise civilians?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 05:25 [#02001817]
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They wouldn't. That's why you're only supposed to use them in warzones or on borders.
Target identification is the biggest problem with drone guns. I've heard of industrial processes where an acceptable success rate of optical recognition by a machine is as low as 60%! Obviously when the machine shoots bullets, anything less than 99% isn't on. Some of the current ones work on a "whitelist" principle. Everyone allowed near them has a wireless networked tag that stops the gun shooting at them. The guns shoot at everything else that moves. The problem is:
a) if the wireless network fails, it has to stop working till the network is re-established (IE it failsafes). This is all well and good, but it's not too clever if one of the tags stops working (but the rest of the network is fine).
b) any baddies within a couple of metres of a friendly is safe
Other ones just have a forward facing arc in which they operate and can only be turned off from behind (so you would put a ring of them around your position and anyone approaching would be shot).
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-14 05:29 [#02001820]
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if they were remote controlled it would be a lot safer than if they were driven by an AI.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-14 05:31 [#02001821]
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the problem is that a warzone is where the war is, and that doesn't exclude neither cities nor any other place where civilians may be hanging around.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-11-14 05:31 [#02001822]
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I dont approve as it denies people the joy of killing
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melack
from barcielwave on 2006-11-14 05:32 [#02001824]
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i was thinking about this a couple of days ago, while watching black hawk and thinking about war evolution in history... curious that now its real...
It has a sophisticated pattern recognition which can detect the difference between humans and trees...
well, we will kill ourselves, but at least the trees will survive... thats good news...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 05:43 [#02001828]
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True. You would hope they'd only be deployed in theatres where the civilian population was almost non existant. You'll always have the chance of some lone yak farmer wandering into the area, but at the risk sounding blase, we already have that to a worse degree with landmines and indeed, jumpy human soliders shooting at anything that isn't an obvious friendly (and even then the yanks will shoot at them).
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-14 10:52 [#02002023]
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lol, "My robot just shot your robot, HA HA!!!"
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-11-14 10:59 [#02002029]
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i want one of those for my garden
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-14 11:46 [#02002051]
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That's interesting.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-14 11:47 [#02002053]
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Thanks for the link.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-11-14 11:49 [#02002055]
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oh, w m w, your single lined posts today are amazing
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-11-14 11:49 [#02002056]
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oh, w m w, your single lined posts today are amazing
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-11-14 11:49 [#02002057]
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oh, w m w, your single lined posts today are amazing
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-11-14 11:49 [#02002058]
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oh, w m w, your single lined posts today are amazing
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-11-14 11:49 [#02002059]
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oh, w m w, your single lined posts today are amazing
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-11-14 11:49 [#02002060]
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oh, w m w, your single lined posts today are amazing
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-11-14 11:49 [#02002061]
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oh, w m w, your single lined posts today are amazing
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-11-14 12:02 [#02002069]
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Whoa, that was about 6 to many.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-11-15 04:39 [#02002413]
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I think the biggest problem is the precident that it sets. Sending an armed mobile and intelligent automatic weapon into an area to patrol on its own... it leaves less for other countries to justify. Say south korea manufactures these, then north korea needs to follow suit. Then the US has to develop similar technology for use in case north korea sets them in action. Then everybody else does.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-11-15 04:47 [#02002417]
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...and then SKYNET...
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-15 04:51 [#02002423]
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The video on the site is hilarious!!!
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-11-15 09:43 [#02002621]
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I'd love to hear what the speaker says: "Don't move or I will shoot you in the head."
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-11-15 10:17 [#02002648]
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Please God just make some humanoid bi-pedal things, not these boring glorified rolling turrets.
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2006-11-15 12:07 [#02002713]
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i enjoy the pirates of the caribbean theme they used
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OK
on 2006-11-15 23:35 [#02002935]
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I like the terminator like music in the video. well, it's not really terminator like but i wanted to make a terminator reference.
Now they'r gonna recruit gamers to handle this things yay
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-16 03:00 [#02003012]
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best possible result: machines break machines
worst possible result: no-one feels the weight of a life on their trigger
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-11-16 03:03 [#02003015]
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Looks like I have a future in the business of killing, then.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-16 03:10 [#02003020]
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revolting.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-11-16 03:27 [#02003023]
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that's a good way to keep n-korean refugees out
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