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So, I tried the demo out, and while it sounded a lot more analogy than say, pro-53, it still has a long way to go. However, it does kind of remind me a bit too much of absynth with a higher likelihood of becoming a really annoying high pitched squeel. The modulations are really easy to use, which is a definite bonus. Can't stand the UI, but all new native instruments stuff looks like it was designed in synthedit anyway, so it was to be expected. You can tell that they are trying to sell copies of kore with this, as 2/3 of the interface is a kore browser. |
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I think it gives the arturia stuff a bit of a run for its money tho. If I felt comfortable buying software I might get it, but without any legitimate resale its not going to help maintain my gearlust when I get bored of it. |
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I might try it |
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It freezes up my compy after 5 minutes, standalone or in a host. :( I'll have to wait until they make another point release before I try it again. Anyways the sound is great, the CPU usage is a bit much, the sound of the raw unfiltered oscillators is terrific, the filters are great, and the patches that I listened too are too overwrought - crusty with excessive modulations and effects to impress the yokels. I don't like all these unusable one finger jams and wibblyflibbly pads. |
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i have it i worship it |
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How is it for making a basic patch from scratch? I couldn't keep it running long enough to make one of my typical squeaky burbly little VA type patches. |
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I like it. The interface looks a bit naff, but it's growing on me and the assigning of parameters to LFOs etc. is intuitive and crucially (and unlike many other synths), remains easy to use and obvious what is controlling what, even when it all gets rather complex. CPU usage is a bit silly, mind. |
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Pretty quick. If you want something fairly clean sounding, and/or with just bog standard LFOs rather than custom waves, I'd say 2-3 minutes a patch once you've found your way around it. |
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about 100,000 times faster than reaktor |
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CPU usage is a bit silly, mind. I think there's a quality setting somewhere so you can compose in medium or low and render in high quality. |
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Yeah. I like it a little more now. I still think nothing beats my nord for ease of use, or even setting up modulations, but its good competition. I could see it and absynth being the only things you may need for a music computer. |
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Got it running stable. I'm starting to appreciate its pads. And I usually don't like pads. These pads are amazing. They sound like they were mastered by professionals, right out of the box. Oh, these pads. |
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the pads are good you say? |
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I think thats right along the lines of what disturbs me about software... |
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These pads are making me thirsty! Oh, these pads. |
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It's not a sample CD, you bell end. I'm not suggesting anyone use the presets as is unless they're turning out one new age yoga CD a week and the need the extra time to digest flax seed. But jesus, these really are the best pads I've ever heard. Normally I react to pad presets like they were 3D renderings of shiny robot people standing in water. Ugh. But these are different. Really stunning crispness and dimensionality. |
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Dude, I wasn't comparing it to a sample cd. I was saying the thing that disturbs me about software is the fact that it can be so easy to make something that sounds professional right out of the box that sometimes the heart gets overlooked. Bell end? |
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I'm thinking of picking this up in a couple of weeks. |
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Watch out what you say here. Someone may call you a boot or something. |
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Yes, setting it to 4 voices (rather than the default 16) sounds a lot better than dropping most synths to 4 voices, probably because the sounds are generally so fat anyway. I've found the CPU setting (on the global tab) and putting it on High, rather than ultra, drops CPU usage about 33% and on a lot of sounds, doesn't sound much worse (at least good enough to work with, then put it back up to "ultra" for rendering). If your CPU isn't up to much or you want to try something silly (like running 2 or 3 instances of massive at once) "economy" drops the CPU usage by about 50%. It's growing on me more and more as I use it- although I maintain the interface looks a bit gash, in functional terms, it's one of the best I've seen for striking a good balance between a simple, easy to follow at a glance layout, versus allowing you to really get in and edit the complexity of things without tabbing through scores of sub menus. Also, as Fleetmouse says, the pads are good (personally I prefer Absynth's, but I admit these are great). I can see myself using it for lightly fx'd 101 type sounds and also really gritty DnB/Dubstep basslines. Ceri JC Synthrating: 8.5/10 |
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huh? |
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im writing a little album at the moment. A lot of the sounds are the presets from massive. They just sound totally awesome, and i don't have the time to make my own sounds for every part of every track. Between a job a wife and a life i can't dedicate myself like i used to. Don't really care though, because the presets sound amazing |
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Gee, I guess from now on people will have to stand out from the pack by being imaginative and skillful instead of by owning pleasant sounding lumps of plastic and metal. |
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Perhaps I need to rephrase myself. What I said was software makes things too easy sometimes. |
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Or maybe your refering to just layering different reverb plugins on top of a crappy sine wav to make something sound good. |
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Holy smokes this thing is great for sound design. I'm gonna have to buy it. Not being able to save my patches and having it shut down after half an hour is making me weep in frustration. |
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I've got about 2 dozen loops I've made in it and exported to .wav for this reason. |
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Mac users rejoice. |
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i think only thing more that i could want from native instruments is a proper drumsynth like an emulation of the elektron sps-1 or something like that. there isn't any good vst drumsynth out there and i guess ni would make something really massive. |
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Murphy's Law of recording is that the best stuff happens when it's not being recorded. :-/ I tried it again in a host and couldn't get the same sound out of it. On the other hand I got others that were equally good. :D Have you tried mapping a control surface to the macro controls? They're mapped as modulation sources to this and that in most of the presets. It's a whole other world once you start messing with those. |
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Check out Deadbeat made to use in Ableton. You can modify it and do some interesting things. I cut it down to four sequencer / samplers to save CPU. Of course you can always use only one polyphonic sampler but I find that's a pain for arranging sample maps. |
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my 2.6Gb dual core intel quad xeon processor mac with 4Gb of RAM rapes the shit out of massive. |
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I have to say, out of all the software I have tried, the most annoying thing about this one is the mouse, which is saying a lot. I really hope native instruments try to make a receptor style thing sometime, so you can use massive and absynth without a big noisy computer. |
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yeah but that's just a sampler too... i would want a synth |
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Waldorf attack? |
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I don't think NI have it in the books for a long time to make a drumsynth. They probly think they got that base covered with battery. |
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Ooh! oh yeah. That is a great sounding drum synth. |
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yeah i already have attack but it sometimes lacks enough, i don't know, punch for me ? i use a few other to cover all styles. this one for example - free, 6 outputs, 7 synths and really good sound and capabilities. love it really. and not free but modular with a few sound synthesises and really good sounding. and - my latest discovery - just listen to the demo samples and i guess i won't have to say anything more. the problem is just the price and the fact that this box sometimes sounds to "surroundish" i guess they have added some panner or anything and it's really diffficult to make a "flat" sound it's a real pity with ni - i mean they have the potential to make one. there is 808 style drum machine in the reaktor library - it's sounds just too good. but still it has not enough capabilities to make me feel satisfied. if for example lime-lite would have some in-build drum synth combining different synth-modules... my god ! and and topic-related - come on is this a joke? the final version having 43% average cpu usage and hangs up after 4 minutes? ni must be joking! besides what's the plan in it? they have just tossed all their engines into it and made a "user friendly" gui. i can hear even gaugear in there. absynth is there and all the other synths. |
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The trick with adding punch is really in how you set the envelopes, and of course, your compression and eq's. I am not a fan of compression, but it can really add some punch to a kick drum. |
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Hot of the press at analogue industries. Its a 909 emulator made by the same people who make my favorite 303 emulator. This is probly going to be worth checking out. If they put half as much work into the sound as they do the UI, its going to be awesome. |
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Is that the thing by the people who did audiorealism bassline (presumably someone rebadged/bought out the company)? |
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you know i got so sick over the time by those 909/808 sounds i can't stand them anymore really. |
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