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offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 13:49 [#01994078]
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How can I limit the amount of memory this piece of shit
software uses?

It's the best software for keeping my iPod in check and my
podcasts but it's a fucking joke when it comes to the
library.

108.99GB of music seems to send the CPU to 100% and the
memory sky high. Any programs people can recommend for
reigning in poorly coded pieces of shit like this?


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 13:56 [#01994084]
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i don't understand how people can have problems with the
library... mine is perfectly fine, all music in the itunes
music folder.

I've got 50GB of music, and itunes uses 6% cpu and 108mb of
memory... running on a macbook smooth as anything.

maybe the problem is just lack of memory, poor PC memory
allocation... i'm assuming you have a pc...


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 14:09 [#01994103]
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Yep, I'm on PC. I have a gig of RAM on this computer. I'm
not using much more RAM than you considering I've got twice
as much music. Have you filled in a lot of the metadata on
your library. I've been working through mine and adding a
lot of stuff such as album covers (outside of iTunes) and
chaing the track numbering to 01/10 etc; Also adding in
composers and grouping releases so if I type in Warp Records
then I get just releases on Warp Records etc; Anal I know
but I'm wondering if it's a case of there being too much
info.
The iTunes library file is 23.5meg and the xml file with it
is 27.5meg. I think that's quite large. I don't have
anything to compare it to though.


 

offline oyvinto on 2006-10-28 14:12 [#01994105]
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i don't undertand how people can live with itUnes


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 14:14 [#01994107]
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why not? its by far the best application for using and
managing music, and i've used a few...


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 14:15 [#01994110]
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my xml is 9mb, dont know much about pc's so can't really
help you there...


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 14:27 [#01994115]
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Hmmm, it could possibly be that. I mean 3 times the size for
double the music strikes me as slightly off.

iTunes is good for managing music but as a music player and
piece of software in general it fails miserably. The only
time I want a computer to monopolise my CPU is when it's a
game I'm playing full screen.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-10-28 14:28 [#01994116]
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or if you're hack-sawing the planet


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-28 14:29 [#01994117]
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I use it for burning CDs and then I turn it off


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 14:37 [#01994121]
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Which I haven't done for a while. I should get round to it
again.


 

offline _gvarek_ from next to you (Poland) on 2006-10-28 14:39 [#01994123]
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I've seen this software once somewhere.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2006-10-28 15:27 [#01994144]
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I don't know about an itunes alternative but you can use
this to change your strt button to BAM.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-10-28 15:32 [#01994148]
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itunes using lots of ram seems to be caused by apple's
philosophy of using lots of ram. osx tends to stack as much
as possible into the ram. and frequently used apps remain in
ram. that way, the more ram you put in your computer, the
better your os actually works. everything is already
pre-cached. apparently, pc's have to suffer the
consequences., windows using another strategy and all.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 15:37 [#01994152]
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:)


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offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-10-28 15:37 [#01994154]
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it was invented to make music lovers cry


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 18:37 [#01994177]
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to be honest i think its more of a pc problem than an itunes
one, as i said 6% cpu usage and runs smooth as anything even
with the all the new graphical stuff they put into it
recently like the cover flow thing.


 

offline oyvinto on 2006-10-28 19:02 [#01994186]
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that worked. for five seconds, then 'start' was back again.
i've been messing with that earlier, by editing the
registry. and you have to delete several "backups" of
explorer.exe because it is recreating itself if you change
the file. i guess that is what happened now as well.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 20:03 [#01994212]
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Surely that means that Apple just can't code correctly for
the PC?
I suppose we can't really compare the program running on an
Apple compared to the PC.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 20:57 [#01994232]
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no it is definitely not apple fault it is only pc fault.


 

offline b6662966 from ? on 2006-10-28 21:21 [#01994236]
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If you want to use the program that iTunes copied try out, J
River Media Center.
Its currently up to version 11 and is pretty fucking wicked
when it comes to large libraries:

J River Torrents

J River Official Site


 

offline LuminousAphid from home (United States) on 2006-10-28 22:15 [#01994240]
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i hate itunes because it hijacked my default media player
slot, so i don't use it out of spite.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-29 02:59 [#01994322]
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I only use iTunes to preview songs. Really pointless having
it to be honest.


 

offline somejerk from south florida, US (United States) on 2006-10-29 11:21 [#01994525]
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i just started using winamp again after using itunes for a
year or two. it seems to really drain resources on PC's. i
love the way itunes sorts the music by artist / genre / etc
and the ease of use of play listsl. unfortunately the newer
versions try to cram too many features in and my computer
fucking hates it.

thus, back to winamp. oh yeah, and winamp can support flac,
ogg, etc. not sure that iturd does.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-10-29 11:22 [#01994529]
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it only works well and efficiently on macs..

i have over 300gb in my library and christ does it take long
to load.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-10-29 16:15 [#01994706]
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have you updated your itunes?

7.0 ran like shit for me (was maxing out cpu with only
firefox, itunes and aim open) but they fixed that with
version 7.01 or whatever and it now runs as smooth as ever

im running winxp on a 2800+ athlon mobile with 256 mb ram
btw. (ancient i know... getting a new macbook for xmas tho!
bootcamp motherfuckers!)


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-10-29 16:17 [#01994707]
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it might have something to do with having to load a 108gb
library everytime you open it


 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2006-10-30 03:57 [#01994849]
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Its so awful, but since I bought an iPod, I pretty much have
to use iTunes becuase it changed my library folders and
fucked up my years of organisation.

Now iTunes is the only prog that will semi organise my
music.

Side note: What I hatre is how you can't cue songs, when you
are browsing the library, when a new song comes on, it goes
to where that song is within the library. That is by far the
most annoying feature.


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-30 10:52 [#01995135]
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Perhaps try getting rid of any music you don't listen to.
How anyone can justify owning that much music is nuts.

If you get rid of all the Venetian Snares back catalogue
from your HD, you'll find it runs a lot smoother.

Are all your mp3's encoded at 320kps or something?


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-30 14:32 [#01995344]
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Not all of them. 192 is the average.

I like having a large collection of music because a) It's
all my CDs and b) I get a nice choice. I can't wait for an
mp3 player to come out with enough storage for all my music
:)


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-30 14:36 [#01995351]
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So how many hours worth of music do you have, then?

I've got 10909 songs / 37days & 9 hours of music @ 59.79GB.

I've given up downloading of P2P networks, in fact have
deleted about 90% of what I ever downloaded. It's easy to
have too much music nowadays.
I'm always coming up with new ways to listen to my MP3's, to
try and liven it all up a bit.

In the past year I've hardly listened to any of my records,
though I won't sell any more of them.



 


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