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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 13:49 [#01994078]
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How can I limit the amount of memory this piece of shit software uses?
It's the best software for keeping my iPod in check and my podcasts but it's a fucking joke when it comes to the library.
108.99GB of music seems to send the CPU to 100% and the memory sky high. Any programs people can recommend for reigning in poorly coded pieces of shit like this?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 13:56 [#01994084]
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i don't understand how people can have problems with the library... mine is perfectly fine, all music in the itunes music folder.
I've got 50GB of music, and itunes uses 6% cpu and 108mb of memory... running on a macbook smooth as anything.
maybe the problem is just lack of memory, poor PC memory allocation... i'm assuming you have a pc...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 14:09 [#01994103]
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Yep, I'm on PC. I have a gig of RAM on this computer. I'm not using much more RAM than you considering I've got twice as much music. Have you filled in a lot of the metadata on your library. I've been working through mine and adding a lot of stuff such as album covers (outside of iTunes) and chaing the track numbering to 01/10 etc; Also adding in composers and grouping releases so if I type in Warp Records then I get just releases on Warp Records etc; Anal I know but I'm wondering if it's a case of there being too much info.
The iTunes library file is 23.5meg and the xml file with it is 27.5meg. I think that's quite large. I don't have anything to compare it to though.
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oyvinto
on 2006-10-28 14:12 [#01994105]
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i don't undertand how people can live with itUnes
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 14:14 [#01994107]
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why not? its by far the best application for using and managing music, and i've used a few...
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 14:15 [#01994110]
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my xml is 9mb, dont know much about pc's so can't really help you there...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 14:27 [#01994115]
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Hmmm, it could possibly be that. I mean 3 times the size for double the music strikes me as slightly off.
iTunes is good for managing music but as a music player and piece of software in general it fails miserably. The only time I want a computer to monopolise my CPU is when it's a game I'm playing full screen.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-10-28 14:28 [#01994116]
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or if you're hack-sawing the planet
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-28 14:29 [#01994117]
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I use it for burning CDs and then I turn it off
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 14:37 [#01994121]
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Which I haven't done for a while. I should get round to it again.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2006-10-28 14:39 [#01994123]
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I've seen this software once somewhere.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-10-28 15:27 [#01994144]
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I don't know about an itunes alternative but you can use this to change your strt button to BAM.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-10-28 15:32 [#01994148]
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itunes using lots of ram seems to be caused by apple's philosophy of using lots of ram. osx tends to stack as much as possible into the ram. and frequently used apps remain in ram. that way, the more ram you put in your computer, the better your os actually works. everything is already pre-cached. apparently, pc's have to suffer the consequences., windows using another strategy and all.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 15:37 [#01994152]
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-10-28 15:37 [#01994154]
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it was invented to make music lovers cry
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 18:37 [#01994177]
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to be honest i think its more of a pc problem than an itunes one, as i said 6% cpu usage and runs smooth as anything even with the all the new graphical stuff they put into it recently like the cover flow thing.
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oyvinto
on 2006-10-28 19:02 [#01994186]
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that worked. for five seconds, then 'start' was back again. i've been messing with that earlier, by editing the registry. and you have to delete several "backups" of explorer.exe because it is recreating itself if you change the file. i guess that is what happened now as well.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 20:03 [#01994212]
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Surely that means that Apple just can't code correctly for the PC?
I suppose we can't really compare the program running on an Apple compared to the PC.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 20:57 [#01994232]
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no it is definitely not apple fault it is only pc fault.
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b6662966
from ? on 2006-10-28 21:21 [#01994236]
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If you want to use the program that iTunes copied try out, J River Media Center.
Its currently up to version 11 and is pretty fucking wicked when it comes to large libraries:
J River Torrents
J River Official Site
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2006-10-28 22:15 [#01994240]
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i hate itunes because it hijacked my default media player slot, so i don't use it out of spite.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-29 02:59 [#01994322]
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I only use iTunes to preview songs. Really pointless having it to be honest.
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2006-10-29 11:21 [#01994525]
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i just started using winamp again after using itunes for a year or two. it seems to really drain resources on PC's. i love the way itunes sorts the music by artist / genre / etc and the ease of use of play listsl. unfortunately the newer versions try to cram too many features in and my computer fucking hates it.
thus, back to winamp. oh yeah, and winamp can support flac, ogg, etc. not sure that iturd does.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-10-29 11:22 [#01994529]
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it only works well and efficiently on macs..
i have over 300gb in my library and christ does it take long to load.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-10-29 16:15 [#01994706]
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have you updated your itunes?
7.0 ran like shit for me (was maxing out cpu with only firefox, itunes and aim open) but they fixed that with version 7.01 or whatever and it now runs as smooth as ever
im running winxp on a 2800+ athlon mobile with 256 mb ram btw. (ancient i know... getting a new macbook for xmas tho! bootcamp motherfuckers!)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-10-29 16:17 [#01994707]
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it might have something to do with having to load a 108gb library everytime you open it
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2006-10-30 03:57 [#01994849]
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Its so awful, but since I bought an iPod, I pretty much have to use iTunes becuase it changed my library folders and fucked up my years of organisation.
Now iTunes is the only prog that will semi organise my music.
Side note: What I hatre is how you can't cue songs, when you are browsing the library, when a new song comes on, it goes to where that song is within the library. That is by far the most annoying feature.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-30 10:52 [#01995135]
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Perhaps try getting rid of any music you don't listen to. How anyone can justify owning that much music is nuts.
If you get rid of all the Venetian Snares back catalogue from your HD, you'll find it runs a lot smoother.
Are all your mp3's encoded at 320kps or something?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-30 14:32 [#01995344]
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Not all of them. 192 is the average.
I like having a large collection of music because a) It's all my CDs and b) I get a nice choice. I can't wait for an mp3 player to come out with enough storage for all my music :)
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-30 14:36 [#01995351]
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So how many hours worth of music do you have, then?
I've got 10909 songs / 37days & 9 hours of music @ 59.79GB.
I've given up downloading of P2P networks, in fact have deleted about 90% of what I ever downloaded. It's easy to have too much music nowadays.
I'm always coming up with new ways to listen to my MP3's, to try and liven it all up a bit.
In the past year I've hardly listened to any of my records, though I won't sell any more of them.
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