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Fuck Sony. Fucking cunts.
 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-24 14:01 [#01992043]
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http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3901&

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/24/1453233...

Way to alienate your last few fans Sony. Fucking idiots.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-24 14:09 [#01992052]
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how odd. you'd think they'd be making more money with more
sales?


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-10-24 14:10 [#01992055]
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i dont get it


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-24 14:43 [#01992068]
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Absolute scum. Can you imagine Honda sueing people who
parallel import its cars? This is ludicrous.

Respect to Lik Sang for this:
"As of today, Lik-Sang.com will not be in the position to
accept any new orders and will cancel and refund all
existing orders that have already been placed. Furthermore,
Lik-Sang is working closely with banks and PayPal to refund
any store credits held by the company, and the customer
support department is taking care of any open transactions
such as pending RMAs or repairs and shipping related
matters. The staff of Lik-Sang will make sure that nobody
will get hurt in the crossfire of this ordeal."


I can only hope they survive and return in a few months.
Nintendo got them shut down a few years back (for about 6
months if I recall correctly) for selling GBA flash cards.



 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-24 14:44 [#01992069]
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i just read it too, doesn't make me happy at all, fucking
cunts.


 

offline uzim on 2006-10-24 15:11 [#01992076]
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fuck! >_<

i already miss them. i wanted to order a game from liksang
soon but waited because i have spent too much this month
already... : (



and the new metal gear solid, new silent hill games are
coming on these sony cunts' next console...makes me sick.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-10-24 15:21 [#01992079]
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i'm gonna support that sony boycott by not buying shitty
systems


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-10-24 16:03 [#01992097]
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few extra bits of info over at Gamespot:

Lik-Sang also claimed that Sony Computer Entertainment
Europe executives themselves had bought imported PSP goods
from their company, and went on to name names. Clarysse
said: "Sony Europe's very own top directors repeatedly got
their Sony PSP hard or software imports in nicely packaged
Lik-Sang parcels with free Lik-Sang mugs or Lik-Sang badge
holders, starting just two days after Japan's official
release, as early as December 14, 2004 (more than nine
months earlier than the legal action)."


and Sony's response:

..in a statement given to British game-industry magazine
MCV, the company took a defiant tone.

"Sony Computer Entertainment successfully sued Pacific Game
Technology (Holding) Limited for infringing [on] our
Intellectual Property rights," said Sony. "Lik Sang did not
contest this case (ie. they did not turn up and therefore
incurred no legal costs). We have been awarded substantial
costs against Lik Sang which have not been paid. We would
therefore strongly deny that our actions have had anything
to do with this website closing (we assume the legal entity
is still trading) and would suggest that this release is
sour grapes on behalf of Lik Sang which is aimed to belittle
Sony Computer Entertainment and the British judicial system
that ruled against them."



 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-10-24 16:25 [#01992107]
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i dunno if it matters but i took note on the issue on a
couple blogs of mine to try to get people to care


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-24 16:41 [#01992115]
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hahaha!


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-10-24 18:57 [#01992140]
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i dont get it


 

offline staz on 2006-10-24 19:01 [#01992143]
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those two statements make very little sense together.

on another note, i loved lik-sang, and this is a bizarre
turn of events.


 

offline sin from United Kingdom on 2006-10-24 20:47 [#01992163]
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The cunts


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-25 01:50 [#01992192]
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hahaha


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-25 04:02 [#01992213]
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what knobs. i hate multinationals. the only way to bring an
offending multinational down and stop them shiting all over
their helpless smaller competitors is by killing the CEO.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-25 04:10 [#01992217]
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shut up ezk. lik-sang you served me and my Doctor64 well. it
is a shame but it was inevitable (seeing as its happened
before). im sure youll be back in some shape or form with
your immensely helpful staff.

your old broken english newsletters used to make me cry with
joy.


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2006-10-25 04:36 [#01992224]
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at least my '93 sony cd player still works. they might be
cunts but their products last.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-10-25 04:55 [#01992231]
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So, what did lik-Sang do? If I understand correctly, they
bought games manufactured to be sold in one country and sold
them in others?



 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2006-10-25 11:59 [#01992434]
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Sony has really lost the plot over the last few years...
The perception of Sony has dropped, people used to think of
it and Trinitron and decent reasonably well designed stuff.
Now it has been riding on its reputation for a few years and
not really innovating, it's been overtaken by others.

The whole business model at Sony is flawed.
Example, the PSP:
They are using the razor/razor blade approach:
cheap razor (games machine)
pricey blades (games)

This works if you sell hardware (difficult to put this on
bittorrent)

If you plan to make your money on software, make it either:
* reasonably priced (psp games are not)
* worth paying for (i.e. good, unlike most psp games)
* hard to crack/iso copy, whatever

for the PSP sony decide to take option 3 , so each new PSP
firmware slams shut a door used to run decent homebrew games
and apps.

The PSP is a bad design, it goes for 2 whopping CPUs and
enough battery to run them at limited 2/3rd speed for a
pathetic time... what about less CPU but decent games and
more fun...(DS anyone?)
People release homebrew to have fun with decent games, not
the crap peddled by Sony and so Sony make fewer friends by
trying to stop homebrew.

Now they are doing the same with lik-sang. A company like
Sony is only good if it is popular.
My parents always buy Panasonic.
They've bought it before and it works well, it may not be
the best choice but, it's a pretty decent one in most cases.


Same with Sony, people buy it because of previous good
experiences. I can see people getting annoyed and buying
someone elses stuff as their experiences turn sour...

Sony had that nice little rootkit virus on those CDs a while
back, now they have the exploding batteries in everyone's
laptops, PS3 is late... PSP is a dissapointment.

I wholeheartedly agree with this topic's title.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-25 12:08 [#01992439]
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seems to me they're trying to adapt to a more
"international" way of doing business where
everything is a copyright infringement and any
attempt at using what they make for anything but what they
intended it to means you get sued.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-10-25 13:26 [#01992492]
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all console companies work along what you call the
"razor/razor blade approach", both Microsoft and Nintendo.

all of them make a loss on the console sales themselves -
the money is in the games.

which is kind of interesting, since the PS3 will be costing
600 fucking dollars, which to me at least is a huge amount
of money.

how does Sony respond to people saying "my, that's quite
expensive"..?

"You’ll buy a PS3 at any price — even if you have to
get a second job at Burger King to pay for it"



 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-25 14:10 [#01992533]
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The Nintendo Wii is the first console to beat this loss
leader precedent. Impressive.


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2006-10-25 14:40 [#01992557]
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Yeah FUCK Sony, fuck 'em right in the ass!!!

Why are we fucking them in the ass again?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-25 16:20 [#01992597]
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As usual, Dave talks utter sense.

I actually use my PSP far less (and because I take it away
with me less, I buy fewer games) since I lost the ability to
run homebrew on my PSP. I loved having, after all these
years waiting, a 100% accurate megadrive emulator on a
handheld (not to mention NES emulation and the homebrew drum
machines, etc.) Since upgrading the firmware to run GTA:
Liberty City Stories, I've lost this ability. I know I could
unlock it again, but I'd only lose the functionality again
when I buy a new game and each time I do it, I'd be risking
bricking the PSP.

I also know someone who fixed his defective screen (about a
dozen stuck pixels) using a piece of homebrew software. This
meant he didn't have to return it- saving Sony £200 at the
time.

Before anyone says, "Oh, but you're the exception, everyone
else just pirates games on it." I'd like to point out that
the 4 people I know who have them all use them the way I do
(did) for homebrew and didn't pirate games for them.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2006-10-25 20:45 [#01992664]
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I like Sony. Bunch of haters.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2006-10-25 22:44 [#01992668]
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Aw I had a PS3 pre-order with them. I was going to sell it
tho.


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-26 00:22 [#01992677]
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Bought my PSP from liksang, it was a great shop! I was
planning on getting a SD card reader for my GBA from them
too.
I wish Sony the worst of luck in the future.



 

offline ecnadniarb on 2006-10-26 00:42 [#01992679]
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Right, so Sony are the bad guys for designing, selling and
updating the PSP to leave it without the ability to run
illegal emulators and/or copies of games when they rely on
software sales to make a profit?

So some speccy twat can't run a shitty drum machine on a
handheld games/media machine. Big deal.

If Lik Sang can't even be arsed appearing at court what do
they expect? This is just a piss poor publicity stunt and
they'll be trading again within the month under the guise of
'back by popular demand"


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2006-10-27 08:24 [#01993352]
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Ceri, if I presume correctly, your PSP version can be
downgraded to 1.5 to run those lovely megadrive emus (which
is the sole reason I use my PSP).

To run newer games, you can run a program called devhook,
which fools it into thinking it is a newer version by
rebooting and loading the later os into RAM from the memory
card, not the flash. That way the flash still has 1.5 and no
need to worry about bricking or whatnot.

I think the fact that I use the PSP to play megadrive games
says alot about what has gone wrong at Sony. The vast
majority of the PSP games are over-priced crap.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-27 08:32 [#01993353]
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One of my mates has a psp, and we've been looking at the
games.. seems to me the psp has way more good games than
ds.. tales of eternia was great, and if you're into it that
tekken thing was apparently quite good (I don't like tekken
too much), but what I really want to see is that metal gear
solid portable game and loco roco looks like great fun. That
silent hill game also looks like it'll be awesome!


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-27 11:32 [#01993445]
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Unfortunately as long as WipEout® belongs to Sony, I'll
keep buying the hardware.

http://defaulted.ath.cx/w2/

WipEout®


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2006-10-28 14:03 [#01994096]
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yeah, i heard about that. i've got my money reserved towards
a Nintendo Wii, so i think i'll be happy. Sony's made a lot
of bad moves lately. They don't realize that at the top you
have everything to lose, and their opponents have everything
to gain.


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2006-10-28 14:05 [#01994099]
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Ditto.


 

offline aneurySm from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2006-10-29 00:29 [#01994281]
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i want a gameboy flashcart


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-29 00:51 [#01994307]
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I've got one on the way. There are 2 types available; one
that will play GBA roms and one that wont. You need one that
has 32mb on board so it can launch the GBA roms. Most of the
others only have a few kb so they can only launch NES games
of <256k!


 


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