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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-10-18 15:32 [#01988970]
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...of your music is planned out, and how much is an experiment in sound?
a lot of my early stuff is litterally just me trying to make cool sounds and mix them in some kind of cohesive format. as i'm getting more and more experienced my "experimentation" can sometimes falter by the wayside
how do you work musically? do you go from a set of ideas and restraints (dark, beat driven, etc etc etc) or do you just go with the flow?
and how do you keep yourself working in that kind of workflow?
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-10-18 15:33 [#01988972]
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I know what I want to make, then I make it.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-18 15:35 [#01988978]
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I want to concentrate on short, catch,y nicely structured tracks that last about four minutes. No noodling or excess riffage, just the ESSENTIAL.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-18 15:37 [#01988980]
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If I find a track going badly, I order a cake designed to look like my laptop running FLOOPS and then wait until indigestion inspires me.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-18 15:38 [#01988981]
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nothing is planned, but I do occasionally get, like, the idea that I'll try and make, for instance, a happy sad song using nothing but recordings of my voice.. that doesn't mean I know what the song will turn out like, though.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-10-18 15:40 [#01988983]
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are you generally pleased with the results that you get from working in a freeform kind of way, or do you find yourself going back and continually tweaking things?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-10-18 15:44 [#01988989]
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i cant plan anything, i can't structure my self or objectively write a piece. but i'm not trying to be experimental, i just do it when i'm in the mood. i'll make short scribbles and sketches, often never go back to them. if i'm making a full track, i usually get the bulk of it done in one mammoth session.
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hexane
on 2006-10-18 15:44 [#01988990]
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lol
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-10-18 15:46 [#01988992]
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i usually end up with a lot of unfinished stuff, but i always end up for example starting a track, and then leaving it for a few months before coming back to it and adding to it
makes it difficult to pin down creative "eras"
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-10-18 15:48 [#01988993]
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it's not like it everr has to be finished.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-10-18 15:49 [#01988995]
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dont you find going back to a track after a period, you lose most of the momentum?
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-10-18 15:53 [#01988997]
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sometimes....but then again there's many times when i'm making a track and i get stuff for ideas on how to expand it, or continue it
and then a few months later i'll have another bash at it and end up finishing the track.
i feel it gives me a different perspective
i don't think it's good to spend days and days on end working on the same track...i feel that would breed staleness
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-18 15:55 [#01988999]
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You do all that and then you think "Hang on, what would Enigma do.... ?"
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-18 16:15 [#01989012]
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It depends, sometimes a whole track emerges from noodlings, but usually I have a sound in my head, or I compose the main drum beat and/or synthline on note paper and just work variations around it on the gear/PC.
I've gotten a lot better at getting the melody/rhythm in my head down in the past couple of years. I can also do most synth sounds that I hear in my head, aside from the really long drawn out morphing ones that switch between pad and rhythmic ones.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-10-18 16:28 [#01989019]
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every track is a different experiment in sound and time.
for electronic musicians i think it is imperative you take full advantage of every possible sound wave, effect the sound in every possible way and combine those sounds with other chaotic experiments you've done... no track i finish is ever "finished"... i suppose they are finished when i finally get to experiment on stage in front of avid listeners.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-18 16:32 [#01989020]
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well, when I get a finished track, I'm usually pleased, but as with all artists, there are lots and lots of silly half finished tracks and three second loops that never go anywhere...
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uviol
from United States on 2006-10-18 17:00 [#01989029]
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I almost never 'noodle' because frankly I don't really enjoy the music making process that much. I usually only make stuff when I have some sort of new idea or am really inspired by something.. sort of a means to an end. That's why the concept of 'music-making forums' is utterly uninteresting to me because it's focusing on elements of the process I don't feel is as important. For others, it's almost exclusively important, like people who read Guitar World or something. Nothing wrong with that, it's just not my perspective.
Anyway, sometimes new and/or better stuff than I planned comes out in the process, but more often than not it all ends up falling far short of expectations.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-10-18 21:50 [#01989109]
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i have an idea in my head about what i want to hear and then i go and try to sculpt it
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-19 00:25 [#01989127]
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Most of it is just noodling and coming up with something good from that.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-10-19 00:33 [#01989133]
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used to smoke a shit load of cones, mix two or three samples together, hit the global delay, and go from there
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-19 03:17 [#01989166]
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cones?
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-19 03:35 [#01989173]
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i just fuck around, and eventually a decent song comes out of that. i dont think i have ever properly planned a song before making it.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-10-19 04:17 [#01989185]
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joints and/or blunts
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-19 06:35 [#01989246]
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the Rosales order?
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