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[bleep] sound quality of songs?

oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-10-15 10:46 [#01987268]
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i'm thinking about filling my collection with tracks from
bleep, but i'm concerned about audio quality.

most of my library consists of 160Kbps AAC files, and i find
them to be more than adequate for my ears. i can very
easily tell the difference between, for example, a 128Kbps
MP3 and a 128Kbps AAC

anyways, can anyone recommend or not recommend bleep?

if the quality isn't that great i'd rather spend the extra
money on buying the CD's and taking the time to rip them
myself

isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-10-15 10:57 [#01987278]
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most of the stuff is flac or 320kbps mp3's.
and I'm pretty sure 90% of the people can't tell the
difference between a 320kbps mp3 and a wav.

oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-10-15 11:06 [#01987282]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to isnieZot: #01987278

but aren't the ones from Bleep variable bit rate, meaning
that they bit rate dynamically changes depending on the
"depth" of the frequencies being extrapolated in the track?

:-s

isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-10-15 11:10 [#01987288]
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yes

whats the problem with that then?

vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-10-15 11:11 [#01987289]
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they started out using alt preset, but i've noticed a few
320 releases lately. I never use it for other than the
freebies, seeing as I tend to get the files I buy on
originals anyway...

oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-10-15 11:12 [#01987290]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to isnieZot: #01987288

well for example, say there's a track where the intro is
literally just a 606 hihat being triggered for a few
bars....will it sound artefacted?

isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-10-15 11:16 [#01987292]
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oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-10-15 11:17 [#01987293]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to isnieZot: #01987292

good, that's all i needed to know :)

looks like next pay day i'll complete my BoC collection
(offically released tracks that is)

isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-10-15 11:19 [#01987294]
Points: 4949 Status: Lurker | Followup to oscillik: #01987293

you could always download one track to see how an actual vbr
mp3 sounds.

oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-10-15 11:21 [#01987297]
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fuck it, i'm gonna buy In A Beautiful Place Out In The
Country

and then see what i think....it's only like £4 :D

goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-10-15 11:24 [#01987298]
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like isniezot says, the older mp3's used to be made using
lame with alt preset. which gives a vbr result. although the
bitrate is variable, the coding-algorithm is meant to give a
constant quality. in other words the algorithm adjusts its
bitrate given the complexity of the track, and in the
meantime maintaining the same quality. normally these rips
are indistinguishable from the originals.
normally though. a typical ae-track is another story.
especially their later work. but you can buy those in flac.

hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-15 11:24 [#01987299]
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bleep bleep whos got the keys to the jleep

oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-10-15 11:32 [#01987301]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to goDel: #01987298

thanks, i'll remember that :)

there's some ae back catalogue stuff i need to get, Amber,
and envane and stuff like that...i've got all the new stuff
(i think anyways)

oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-10-15 11:48 [#01987307]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular

well i'm almost all the way through Kid Today - very good
quality, looks like i'll be using Bleep more often from now
on :D

swears from junk sleep on 2006-10-15 12:13 [#01987319]
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Why would 320kbs mp3s from Bleep sound any different from
anyone else's 320kbs mp3s?

oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-10-15 12:19 [#01987322]
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variable bit rate sir

mcbpete from Devon (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-15 12:30 [#01987326]
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Well the point of VBR is that reduces bit rate as they
aren't required, thus pure silence can be easily modelled at
32kbps but more complex work automatically shifts to around
320kbps, it uses whatever bits are needed for what job
entirely transparently.

Bleep uses V0 level LAME coding [i.e. the highest level in
mp3] for the VBR files thus their files are entirely
comparible to that of 320kbps CBR files.

Fah from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-15 13:09 [#01987356]
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give me your tr808 and i will tell you the secrets of
Bleep.com

oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-10-15 13:13 [#01987358]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to Fah: #01987356

i think i value my 808 more than my 303 at the moment

actually, they're probably on a par with each other

i certainly love my 808 more than my 909

but i still want my 909

oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-10-15 13:15 [#01987359]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to mcbpete: #01987326

i never like trusting a computer program to do the job of a
human, so i was anxious about it all

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