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ecnadniarb
on 2006-10-06 17:35 [#01983490]
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Crazy Dutch
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-10-06 17:49 [#01983491]
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better luck next time
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-06 17:51 [#01983493]
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Hmmm, free train travel.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-10-06 17:55 [#01983494]
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I agree with a lot of what they say. A lot of "open minded" people flatly refuse to even discuss paedophilia, calling it just evil or terrible, but will bash homophobes for being intolerant.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-10-06 17:56 [#01983495]
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free train travel? fucking little boys? what we have here is a win win situation
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-10-06 17:58 [#01983496]
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the difference is that homophobia is concerned with consenting adults.
we're talking about children, whose minds haven't fully developed yet.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-10-06 18:03 [#01983498]
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fuck that stupid idea, most adults minds aren't "developed" yet either.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-06 18:25 [#01983506]
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If some hot babysitter girl had given me handjobs when I was 10, then I would be all the better for it. But let's face it, most paedos aren't Christina Ricci in The Ice Storm, they are creepy old men that want to bum little boys, fucking them up in the head forever and turning them into social retards less equipted to deal with everyday life than i_x-ten.
So, NO.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-10-06 18:45 [#01983509]
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while that may be true, I don't think it's what the party is hoping to legalize (as there is no hope). It's frustrating to hear the same thing from so many people. We think "little-boy-fucking" and the idea of tolerance becomes absurd because anything associated with little-boy-fucking becomes "NO."
You see this sort of thing with abortion and that whole assisted suicide stuff. Because people associate assisted suicide with murder, it becomes wrong. Abortion, similarly, is associated with murder, but is also tied to the idea of sort of "punishing" irresponsibility. The problem is that laws easily ignore special cases; everything has to be catagorized and, as a result, all becomes black and white. There is no real judgement of separate instances, no real analysis of situations. It's just, for example: you fucked a 15 year old you go to jail.
Now it's time for my argument to be ignored and the same shitty old logic to rear its annoying face
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-06 19:05 [#01983513]
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You have to draw a line somewhare, and to be honest the only fellas my age (23) that fuck 15 year old girls are creepy loser metalheads that can't even approach women their own age.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-10-06 19:06 [#01983514]
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there are schools where the education is very different to what the standars school learns....
standar schools explain the knowledge in a way that the goverment of the country or region agree,for their interests.
there are schools where the education is based on a free way,where the teachers let the childrens be their selfs in a savage and ethic way.....and this includes the learnings of the sex... ...how nice is sex!..is a pleasure be alive....
yeah this way of learning now is very different to the schools of nowadays.-sorry bad english.-i think that this freeway will grow with time and somethings that now we see weird or controversial will be very normal...
but NOW the thing is that the act of FUCK A Child* is on the mayority times a reflected act of our bored and no.imagination for pleasure society.the black hole:O
lets enjoy Bochum well
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-10-06 19:08 [#01983516]
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"The PNVD says its aim is to break taboos and fight intolerance, and that paedophilia should be freely discussed, arguing that a ban just makes children curious."
hmm. that 'curious because of something being illegal' thing doesn't really crop up that much until puberty - an age range most paedophiles aren't interested in.
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-10-06 19:10 [#01983518]
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what what what whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhat
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-10-06 19:14 [#01983525]
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can you see what I'm saying at all? I don't think it was written wonderfully; there are at least a few incoherent sentences in there...but if you really can't see the basic point I'm trying to make than it isn't an issue of communication, it is an issue of comprehension--and this is where I'll get off
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-10-06 19:16 [#01983527]
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yeah that's rright a gay is the same as a peado.
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-10-06 19:19 [#01983531]
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shit how do i win this arrgument about adults fucking kids... humm... YES two same sex adults fucking each otherr.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-10-06 19:24 [#01983535]
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go on, have at it. pick things apart, exaggerate things, skew ideas, belittle, but most importantly: avoid the point. This is what forums are made for.
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-10-06 19:24 [#01983537]
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avoid what point?!
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-10-06 19:26 [#01983539]
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that some grroup of fucks wants to legalise child porrnography? that hating peados is the same as hating homophobes?
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-10-06 19:27 [#01983541]
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wait, did I even make that comparison?
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-10-06 19:28 [#01983542]
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yes that was my point, that a group of fucks want to legalize child pornography and that hating paedos is the same as hating homophobes. Right on.
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-10-06 19:29 [#01983543]
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Maybe I'm drrunk, but
I agree with a lot of what they say. A lot of "open minded"
people flatly refuse to even discuss paedophilia, calling it
just evil or terrible, but will bash homophobes for being intolerant.
this seems to suggest it. Maybe I am drrunk.
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-10-06 19:33 [#01983545]
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I just don't underrstand
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-10-06 19:35 [#01983546]
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HEY WHAT R U SAYIN ABOUT HOMOS, THAT'S NOT RIGHT
ATTENTION PLZ
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-10-06 19:38 [#01983547]
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what
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-10-06 19:40 [#01983548]
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oh, what I was saying there is that a lot of peoples' idea of openmindedness is really quite limited, I wasn't comparing homosexuality to paedophilia.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-06 19:40 [#01983549]
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They want to allow this:
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-10-06 19:45 [#01983553]
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i guess i thought that you werre putting people who hate homophobes in the same brracket as those who hate peados.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-10-06 19:49 [#01983554]
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well, no, I was comparing them, but in the sense that they are both issues on which degrees of openmindedness can be measured, I guess.
The fact that paedophilia is so taboo makes it impossible to discuss it without becoming a target of hate yourself, making it impossible to explore its morality, which basically makes it a blank space labelled "wrong." And I'm not saying it isn't wrong, and I'm not saying it isn't right, I'm saying think about it beyond ruby-star-fruit-rape.
But I'm repeating myself now and no one likes to read things over again, do they
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-10-06 19:50 [#01983555]
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i've said the same thing twice. who carres.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-10-06 19:59 [#01983556]
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i guess i thought that you werre putting people who hate homophobes in the same brracket as those who hate peados.
I was, but I don't see how that could be extrapolated into homosexuality-is-similar-to-paedophilia.
I could have said: "I agree with a lot of what they say. A lot of 'open minded' people flatly refuse to even discuss paedophilia, calling it just evil or terrible, but will bash pro-lifers for being intolerant."
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-10-06 20:04 [#01983557]
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I just know I hate reading long-winded arguments repeated over and over again in different ways--it encourages an environment where no one listens to anyone.
goodnight
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-10-06 20:15 [#01983562]
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i appreciate scup_bucket exploring mind++ gud night yo*
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-10-06 20:44 [#01983570]
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its not right.
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zoomancer
from Kabul (Afghanistan) on 2006-10-06 22:43 [#01983581]
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If there is anything worth discussing about paedophillia is that how can the mainstream modeling/fashion industry get away with it, having sexualized covergirls as young as 13 gracing covers and ad campaigns all across the globe.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-07 02:47 [#01983596]
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what's the current reason for setting the limit where it is, btw?
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-07 05:21 [#01983630]
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To be honest, if some of the hot older girls from the local comp had nonced me up, I would have been able to strut around the playground when everyone was talking about the sex scenes in Hollywood films or page 3 girls I'd just be like: "Been there, done that." But I don't think I'd feel the same way if it had been this fella:
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-09 21:07 [#01984847]
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Has anyone seen qrter's newmusic video?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-10-09 22:39 [#01984864]
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you so whaaacky lol
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from vita contemplativa on 2006-10-09 23:16 [#01984879]
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i think i know what you mean, paedophilia being a taboo and people blindly demonizing it without discussion.
but actually it's been part of a moral discussion among intellectuals and politicians since hellenistic greece, if "inofficially" not way more back. it's quite clear infants don't have a developed libido to be able to reciprocate the kind of love paedos feel for them, so...
on the other hand, like i said, i think i understand the universal kind of problem your pointing at, the mob unwilling to even reflect on it's morals and the politics not even wanting to let the potential grow to do so... this reminds me of the case of natascha kampusch, the girl that was abducted in austria and held captive for 8 years. apparently she didnt even try to escape when she had the chance, and felt compassion in the end for her kidnapper, crying when she got to know of his suicide. also the sexual acts she was enforced to soon were kind of mutual... pretty wondrous, really
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-25 13:39 [#01992498]
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PNVD guys:
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-25 13:44 [#01992502]
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The PNVD says its aim is to break taboos and fight intolerance, and that paedophilia should be freely discussed, arguing that a ban just makes children curious.
Classic.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-25 13:47 [#01992507]
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oh man i would've laughed my ass off if they would have been elected, but we all saw it coming that they wouldn't. We ARE crazy :/ damn
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-25 13:53 [#01992512]
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-25 13:55 [#01992515]
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Simple but effective.
Hey, can you change the picture so the dude on the right is rocking a baby to sleep???
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-25 13:56 [#01992517]
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I bet he has a small penis.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2006-10-25 13:58 [#01992520]
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all paedos do. thats why they go for the little holes.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-25 13:59 [#01992522]
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Yes. His penis is so small, it's actually a CLITORIS.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-25 14:00 [#01992523]
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lol @ "little holes"
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