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especially those hallucinogenic (sp?) drugs.. I just want to know if you've had "trips" or whatever you call it where you hallucinate and actually believe it to be true or happening, or if you usually can distinguish between hallucination and reality? I don't want tips on drugs (I'm not going to take them), but I am curious as to their effect and the sense of reality in your experiences.. I am also aware that you don't necessarily see giant porcupines eating blimps with licorice on or anything like that, but that things can be more like just stuff appearing to change size or colour, etc, and I will include such "basic" things in "hallucination." |
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Yes I saw giant porcupines eating blimps with licorice on |
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were you under the influence of drugs? |
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Potentially the black hole of a thread that will consume XLT. |
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I've never done drugs. |
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Does this mean you lied when you said you'd got stoned? |
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he's stoned now stoned people lie a lot he's lying now |
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hallucination and reality? when you forget that you had take the *drugthing. then the experience is totally hallucinogenic. is as real as you now reading this in front of yr screen... but in a different mood. hope understand this concept |
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Tridenti does not lie. |
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Tridenti's a bit blurry when it comes to pissed / stoned / drunk / half cut / rat arsed / off his tits / shit faced. |
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understand maybe yes. |
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I guess you mean when I was drunk maybe. But seriously, I've never done drugs. OR I might just have confused the two words when I posted saying I was stoned because i was drunk, oh WELL! |
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is ok,but I've never done drugs,only read books of Carlos Castaneda |
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admit it: you were high on crack cocaine and didn't know up from down! |
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does he write about titties? |
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Alcohol is a drug. |
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whatever happened to all the druggies that used to hang around here? all the shroomers and stuff..? |
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i smoke a bit of skunk from time to time, does that count? |
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What the fuck are drugs?! |
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i saw a dolphin swimming in a oil can and i pushed the lawnmower into the woods |
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They sort of enhance emotions rather than create them. It's like a feedback loop: you feel a certain way, the drug makes it stronger, you feel that way more intensely, and so on. Like you're on ecstacy, and a song you love comes on, that makes you peak even harder. You get paranoid on weed, about getting caught or whatever, the weed makes you shit it even worse. The weirdest one was coke for me, it completely shattered my attention span, I wanted to dance, then 30 seconds later I wanted to talk to my mates, then I wanted to check my hair, then get a drink, then stare at girls, and then of course, do more coke. Most drugs are like alcohol, there's the rational guy inside, thinking and there's the drooling nutter on the outside insisting very loudly that he's perfectly sober. |
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a) Substances b) Things c) D U N N O e) WOOFTER IN THE POOL!!!! |
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depends on what skunk is... |
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Well, you know that you are hallucinating. It still feels real though. |
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it's something that makes you feel nice. (it's basically a bit better weed and you'll die of lung cancer later then casual weed) |
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I've expierenced many hallucinations on LSD and Psilocybin mushrooms. You sort of have to let go and let the trip take you where it will. If you fight it you're gonna have a bad time, and it's that simple. I've never taken so much of either drug that I "forgot" i was on a hallucinatory substance... Always in the back of my mind I know I will be sober again within hours. As far as the visuals themselves... the main thing I see is a complex three dimensional multicolored pattern that shifts and twists and zooms in and out and is constantly changing. Since my first time doing acid these "patterns" in my field of vision have never entirely left, even when I'm sober. I can see them right now when I look for them. Most of the time they are barely noticeable but once in awhile I'm smoke a bit of weed or something and the colors will start to come out more clearly. I guess this is what some people call a "flashback." You get used to it though. I've seen pleantly of other crazy shit going on but it would take a long time to type all of it out.... |
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You can hallucinate and believe those hallucinations to be real. From my experience it requires heavy doses of certain drugs and usually occured for me with combinations of drugs. And it's not so much visual hallucinations (although they occur) but rather "changes in the total reality of being"......... i won't go into the messy details. I don't do any drugs now. |
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I used to have bad reactions to ibuprofen, if I would go to sleep or wake up while I had recently had it, I would get a terrible trip. I'd scream and break shit, see cartoons attacking me, etc.These have toned down, but I still get them mildly, a couple of days ago I had to leave my dorm because I thought my ceiling was going to crush me. And though I have never had a good hallucination, I still really want to try hallucinogens (I haven't.). I can get about any other type of drug, but I live in a place where hallucinogens are rare. |
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Rostasky, given your bad history with hallucinations I would strongly recommend NEVER touching a hallucinagenic drug. You might never quite come down from it. |
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i've had very big trips on acid...they were so real atm...i still remember those as a reality |
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Not in the sense you mean when you say believe it to be true or happening. |
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Since my first time doing acid these "patterns" in my field of vision have never entirely left, even when I'm sober. I can see them right now when I look for them. Most of the time they are barely noticeable but once in awhile I'm smoke a bit of weed or something and the colors will start to come out more clearly. I guess this is what some people call a "flashback." You get used to it though. I can see it pretty well too when I smoke herb. It is basically a centered fractal right there in my visual field; it's green/red/and not as noticable blue (eyes don't have as many blue receptor cells). I wonder what it is about the brain that produces that effect. I've only really tripped twice. |
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reality is what you perceive it to be when on chemical substances or off of them courage is like a drug - if youre under the influence of courage you can do a lot, its a drug that many people should do more |
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I don't think anyone has an answer as to what it is. The people that think they do have had their brains so fried from hard hallucinagen use that I'm afriad to find out. One I was on about 3 grams of shrooms the patterns were out in full effect... I took a hit of Nitrous Oxide (something I never mess with anymore) and zoomed ALL the way in to the fractal. It was basically circle upon circle upon circle, each layer moving a different direction (one going clockwise, another going counter) and surrounding the circles were elephants interlocking by their trucks. The detail is really amazing. |
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thats the shit |
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you should take the drugs |
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heh. interesting thread... |
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I had a trip in wich i had a serious paranoid attack, i tought that I was screaming every little tought that I had, even when i had my hands covering my mouth, i still have that paranoia every now and then (that people can hear my toughts), stupid acid it screwed my life, more. It does feel real but it's not, the best description is that it's like you're dreaming. after some days you remember is exatly like when you remember a weird dream. only that you don't know exactly what did or did not happen. |
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taking drugs is a completely personal experience. Its never the same twice. Its wierd how people talk about drug with such a withdrawn sense. Everyone does drugs, yet its spoken about as this thing that "other" people do. |
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The most I've hallucinated was in January last year during a moving out party for my mate Wayne. We got a load of E's in and just to be sure - £140 worth of Ketamine. I was so fucked, green vines started to crawl up all the walls, engulfing the entire room. With the end of each track on the cd player, the vines would retreat, to be replaced by new vines for the new track. My friend Mikey became (in my eyes) a game show host of some sort. After a while (about 9 hours) of this I started puking up, finally coming round on the bathroom floor. At this point I thought I was seven hoops of flesh being thrown at a wooden post in the middle of some deserted landscape. Whenever I end up doing hallucinogenics, I always find there is a plant theme involved, Often it's that all the people in the room are part of a plant or something. My favourite experiences were when I managed to put the front room of about 15-20 people on "pause" for a couple of minutes, also the time I thought I met Jesus in my downstairs toilet. After a few minutes of being amazed at meeting this dude, I realised that it was just a patch of light on the wall. I immediately returned to the front room for more Ketamine. |
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never. I have enough with the mild migraine and bloodsugar halluciniations I sometimes get (stuff sticks to my field of vision like a piece of broken glass that follows where I look). wolfslice: whoah.. so it's like a kind of tinnitus hallucination? rostasky: "it still feels real, though": yeah, that was mainly what I was wondering, but I see it wasn't particularly easy to see that from my initial post.. I just heard those things about people being afraid of what they see, and you said you had to leave your dorm room because you thought your roof was going to crush you.. that must've implied some kind of reality to the experience and that you were unable to properly distinguis it... blobula: were they really weird or were the things that happened in them things that could have happened? cygnus: I may be a non-reductionist, but I still believe that the brain handles information, and the drugs do affect things in the brain and the whole "reality is what you percieve" plays out quite a bit differently from what people normally think it does. |
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that's common with low blood sugar, actually... I've had it. It's also accompanied with everything sounding like it's screaming (yes, even "natural" sounds or inanimate objects that make sound) and you keep going "shhhhh" inside your head, but I am always aware that I just need to eat, and it'll go away. |
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everyone does drugs? anyway, I'll read through that whole report, thanks! |
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haha, weird.. I get the impression you thought most of it was real..? |
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fucking sweet, thats the best trip i've ever heard of. |
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Ma best trip was with shrooms, alone at home. Whole night trip listening one single record (that I think I recomended to you), Live at the Village Vanguard Again! - Coltrane Music can't go deeper than what I felt. |
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it was a sweeping genralisisation yes, a surprising amount of people do drugs is what i should say. sometimes people you would never expect. it is afterall a multi-billion dollar industry. |
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haha, I prefer listening to it sober... b123: ah, right.. though you are aware that it still doesn't make it right, which is why people don't talk too openly about it... |
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I had no reason (in my mind at the time) to think that it wasn't. It was pretty cool. I want more drugs, dammit. |
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Ive tripped my balls off and never thought i was loosing control or believed it was the reality. People that do are usually unhinged before they take the drugs. |
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