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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-09-28 10:32 [#01978930]
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Yipee! New project for class, this one's really fun. We were asked to write something on a piece of paper, any random object, then toss them into a jar. Then, that jar was passed around, and everyone drew a subject. I happened to get the girl's next to mine. A siren. Now, we have to use this subject as a name, logo, or typography element. It doesn't have to actually include the object. We must create and print a: brochure, business card, letterhead, and mailing envelope for a company of our creation. Well, I took "SIREN" and created "SIREN Graphic Design Firm", a fictional company which specializes in advertising, photography, and typography (the stuff I love to do). Anyway, here is what I have so far.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-09-28 10:37 [#01978933]
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Back to class.
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2006-09-28 11:24 [#01978941]
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Pretty cool, but I would have moved the bar a little more to the left. Golden ratio etc.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-09-28 11:33 [#01978943]
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I'd remove the vectors completely, or move them to the side a bit more. dividing a picture straight in half kinda gives the image no tensions, I don't know where to look, everything looks important right now. I'd use the golden ratio on this one. IE, the bar on one third of the width of the picture. the picture itself looks nice but it's way to saturated. the trees are a black stain. the detail gets lost.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-09-28 12:08 [#01978958]
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It looks alright, doesn't it.
But, surely, the point of the exercise, is to do something creative with the word / concept you're given. Simply saying "a company called Siren"... isn't all that, is it? You could do that with any word. A siren can be an alarm, or a siren of Greek myth, luring sailors to their doom, or indeed a sexy woman. I'd say, to get points, work in somehow, a meaning of the word.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-09-28 12:12 [#01978962]
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one word : retarded
another word thats how i feel : really sweet
or its two words
good job YO !
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-09-28 12:19 [#01978966]
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I know, but our teacher is very lax with things, so we can really do what we want. I tried the "siren" idea of an alarm. And I may have something going for it too. For instance, a slogan would be something about a warning. It takes thinking to hav a job in this field. That's why I'm going to school for it, to learn the right way to think and approach things.
On a side not, I have the center bar un-aligned on purpose. It would be the center of two folded pages for a covering. Needs some more work on this piece itself, but the project isn't over yet. ;)
Thanks for feedback.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2006-09-28 16:43 [#01979171]
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To be honest what you have made is really dull, the composition is bad. You really haven't gone out on a tangent at all.
Try to use the "z" rule of composition, when you look at a page your eyes will scan in a z shape reading across the top studying the image from top right to bottom left (some ads will use this line in an image or the allignment of text etc.) and then from left to right again. Pick up a magazine and look at the adverts they are nearly all using this (for good reason)
From what you have done it really didn't matter what word you chose and with a word like Siren you could have gone so many different ways. I hope the girl who suggested it isn't cute because you kinda pissed on her cool word there.
I hope this isn't too discoraging, I just think you need to think a bit more about your end product.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-09-28 17:02 [#01979199]
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dont worry, its not as bad as 010101 says.
i like that you tried to do your own thing here. i hope most of the things you've done are intended, if so, i quite like your work.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-09-28 17:16 [#01979215]
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Like i said, its very nice.
"FUCK THE HATORZ !"
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-09-28 19:39 [#01979294]
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No, what 010101 is saying is completly correct, yet what you're saying is some ill informed, mollycoddling "do what you like, yeah, whatever" rubbish that won't serve anyone at neither a professional nor an academic level, especially if they're not very good.
Halfwit.
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yann_g
from now on 2006-09-28 20:43 [#01979305]
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in what way is that related to a siren? besides, it's too classic. (imho)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-28 20:56 [#01979307]
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it certainly looks good, but I wouldn't look at it long enough to find out what it's for.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2006-09-29 11:56 [#01979689]
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I was trying to be constructive and I appologise if it seem offensive. I hope this wont stop you from posting your work, I would be interested in tracing your progression as a graphic artist.
The next time you get a project use xlt to brainstorm, I am sure out of the suggestions or ideas you get from us, you will be able to wow you teachers.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-09-29 12:09 [#01979695]
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I am redoing it right now, totally new idea. SIREN as a Weather Alert service. I'll post what I got in a minute.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-09-29 12:19 [#01979703]
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SIREN WEATHER SERVICE
COVER It would fold over so the left side is the back, the right side is the front.
INSIDE Same as it looks now, only imagine a crease.
CARD A slit would be made on the right-hand side of the inner print and this would be slid in. As an informational contact card.
ALL THIS WOULD BE PRINTED ON GLOSS/HEAVY PAPER. (Not Photo Paper.)
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-09-29 12:20 [#01979704]
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you motherfucker.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-29 12:25 [#01979705]
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with the "Keeping you out of the rain." text, I'd think it'd be more effective if you could get your camera, go out, get some friends to help you, maybe, or just search the web for a picture (maybe black and white) where you have lots of people caught out in the rain running and using newspapers to shield themselves, and they'd all be completely soaked... however, I know nothing about graphical design on a level above absolute minimalistic webdesign, so I'll go get myself something to drink instead.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2006-09-29 12:25 [#01979706]
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theres certainly no need to repeat the logo
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-09-29 12:29 [#01979707]
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And I need to take a piss break. I wonder if it will rain soon so's I can do that.
Exaph, I scrapped the top idea see my post with 3 links about 4 or 5 posts up from this one.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2006-09-29 12:43 [#01979717]
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Much better!
Post 3: If you move the tag line "Keeping you out of the rain" down to the bottom right it would work with the 'z' formation rule. The plane line in the sky emphisises this, so finnish it off.
Post 4: More of the same, move the cross logos to the bottom right of the page
Post 5: One of my favorite tricks with Buisness cards is to have a tag at the top, so that when people put it in a buisness card organiser it pops up above the top, if it is scored people can fold the tag down to put it in a wallet. This is also a really good idea to do with your resume/CV.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-09-29 12:46 [#01979718]
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Good ideas. Thanks! :D You do this stuff for a living, or have in the past?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2006-09-29 12:54 [#01979719]
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I did graphic design for 7 years, then worked in Video games and now do 3d Modeling. Anyhow here is what I mean with the business card. I did it in AutoCAD because thats what I had open at the time.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-09-29 12:57 [#01979722]
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Thats a really clever idea. It's so you can kind of keep tabs on the card, right? I messed around with CAD in middle school, we made some rooms and interior architecture, that kind of thing.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2006-09-29 13:00 [#01979723]
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If you use it on a resume/CV when it is piled up with all the other aplicants it sticks out in the same way.
If you know CAD you will never be out of work!
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2006-09-29 18:48 [#01979851]
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Yeah sorry, that design doesn't do much for me either. Siren as a word has such huge potential, and sticking the de facto nature photo behind some typography is just a waste. If I was in your position, i'd base a project around words related to siren: seduction, beauty, forbidden, etc...
And that center crease reminds me of a ZX Spectrum tape sleeve for some reason.
I'll be honest, your course sounds like a lot of crappy graphic design courses out there. Teaching you mac monkey shite like letterheads and brochures is not only tedious, but it probably prevents you from getting the really interesting design jobs out there. I'm very lucky in that my design course emphasises more on experimentation and art/illustration into the designs. If you look at the best work from magazines such as Grafik, you certainly won't see many letterheads on showcase!
And I know I sound like a real cunt in this post, but graphic design should always be about interesting concepts and the communication of ideas, rather than something that is all style with no substance. Feel free to hate me now :)
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2006-09-29 18:54 [#01979852]
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Oh btw, my post above was directed at your first idea. The second one is better, and the weather forcast route is quite neat. The photograpghy is decent, but the typography needs work. A little too close to the edge at the moment.
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from Ensenada Drive on 2006-09-29 19:22 [#01979859]
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Secret rule of typography #25.4:
Underline Everything
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jules
from United States on 2006-10-01 17:15 [#01980459]
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on the text inside...get the word 'day' up on the last line of text....widows are no good and are a sin in design
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-10-01 18:07 [#01980472]
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is the text on the "Inside" bit supposed to rhyme?
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2006-10-02 03:44 [#01980570]
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i noticed an url on the first image, went there, there is such a site indeed
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-10-02 03:53 [#01980576]
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You should really focus on your drawing, it's really good you know.
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