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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 10:38 [#00120778]
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I know Sting is now a total prick but doesn't anyone rate the Police? They are on the radio at the moment. I used to love them and realise I still do. Very rare with the music of my youth.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-03-11 10:39 [#00120779]
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Nope - sorry mate!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 10:40 [#00120780]
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Oh well. I'll let you off on that one as you're from Barry and can beat me up. Just kidding.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-11 10:46 [#00120792]
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blushes...( I am a closet Police fan from my childhood...)....
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-03-11 10:50 [#00120798]
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I don't get involved in beating people up - I just know people who can arrange things ;-)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 10:50 [#00120799]
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Hold your head high Iron Lung. There is nothing to be ashamed of...
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-11 10:58 [#00120811]
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your right though....Sting solo is SHIT!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 11:01 [#00120814]
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Some of Ten Sumoner's Tales is not bad but the rest is shite covered in shite. Ddi you hear Nas' sample of Shape of My Heart?
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-11 11:20 [#00120823]
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Stingis great. Police are great.... Fields of Gold is a fantastic song.
The Police created their best work when the band was under pressure of splitting up. Cant stand losing you is my favourate by far.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 11:24 [#00120829]
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I'd have to sat Walking on the Moon - great bassline. Message in a Bottle a close second.
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Jedy
from dublin (Ireland) on 2002-03-11 11:53 [#00120840]
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i really like the police actually when i was 9 years old the first vinyl record i bought was Zenyatta Mondatta
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-11 12:59 [#00120880]
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I still like the Police, but yes, Sting is annoying now.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 13:02 [#00120886]
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Uh, the Police should be prosecuted just for clearing that sample for puff daddy. Atrocious!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-11 13:26 [#00120905]
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Fair point Meho!
Jonesy: I can't believe it, something we agree on!
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Jedy
from dublin (Ireland) on 2002-03-11 13:53 [#00120946]
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puff daddy must die!! he is a little homo
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 13:58 [#00120950]
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No, I kinda like some of his shit, it's so kitschy that it kinda rocks. But that Police sample and song are total crap.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 13:58 [#00120951]
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I know mate. I agreed with Meho the other day too.
I must apologise for my know-all posts in the past. I get carried away when having a discussion. Sorry for being an arrogant twat.
I am always right though.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 13:58 [#00120953]
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Plus I don't think he's homo, he used to bang J Lo, didn't he?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 14:04 [#00120957]
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As far as I know he is a homo sapien.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 14:06 [#00120959]
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Oh, is that what he meant?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 14:07 [#00120960]
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I hope so.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 14:09 [#00120962]
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you mean, we should have him crucified for spreading homophobia on this messageboard (just kidding)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 14:10 [#00120963]
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Crucified? That's a bit lenient. I'm not a soft touch you know.
PC enforcer
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 14:20 [#00120981]
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Right, OK, so what do you suggest? Decapitation, dismemberment and then burning at stake for the final touch?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-11 14:27 [#00120991]
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i used to love The Police when i was about 10 when i got given their greatest hits; i still like their old stuff.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 14:53 [#00121024]
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Meho: you forgot disembowelment you reactionary
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 14:54 [#00121027]
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Oh, yes, yes. And the family, don't forget the family: to death camps with those!!!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 14:56 [#00121029]
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Did you know Marx thought that homosexuality was a bourgois deviation?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 14:59 [#00121035]
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Just proves he was wrong on more than just one point. (lol) Homosexuality can be found among various animal species (hell, some of my cats do it here and there), and I doubt that even Marx could find any class distinctions there. (well, maybe among certain species...)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 15:02 [#00121040]
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I've been reading up a little on Baudrillard (you'll never escape this). So he thinks that everything is a mere representation of things that aren't real. Representations based on images that are not true or can't be known?
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Jedy
from dublin (Ireland) on 2002-03-11 15:04 [#00121045]
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o my god ! you wanbt to kill me!!:)
when i say home i mean and idiot i have nothing against gays
btw puff "idiotik"daddy i can't stand him
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 15:09 [#00121053]
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Jedy: an idiot? So, now you're bashing mentally challenged people? You'll have a lot to answer for my friend (lol, of course).
Jonesy: What have you been reading? I mean that idea stretches back to greeks. Nietzsche is famous for saying "There are no facts, just opinions". That's just one side to Baudrillard, though... Check out that site jand's tipped us on (www.textz.com), plenty of free stuff, and a lot of Baudrillard amongst it.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 15:18 [#00121063]
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Jedy hates gays and people with learning difficulties - its official. Ha, ha.
I've been reading bits of Against Postmodernism by Alex Callinicos. Oh, and (don't laugh) Postmodernism for Beginners.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-11 15:25 [#00121075]
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Postmodernism for Beginners? well please please do give me the definition of Postmodern
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 15:28 [#00121078]
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I'm not laughing, those for beginners books are a fair starting point providing you don't start namedropping and boasting around the second you drop the book (i know I do, heh). His latest book (Baudrillard's): Perfect crime is the easiest to read, sou you might want to start there... Mind you, my girlfriend dropped it after about 3 pages, but she doesn't have the firm marxist foundations that you have.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 15:29 [#00121080]
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I'm stumped man. My take is that there are no ideologies that can explain any kind of truth. There is no truth. Liberal deomcracy is the only model for social organisation. Ask Meho man coz I ain't got a bleeding clue.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 15:30 [#00121083]
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Ugh, Marlowe, you might like to have Lyotards definition: postmodernism is incredulity towards meta-naratives. Mean anything to you?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-11 15:31 [#00121086]
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well i understood it, but it is basically meaningless - it seems to be saying, more or less, think laterally...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-11 15:32 [#00121088]
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Meta-narratives a la Marxism, feminism etc.
So how much do you agree with Baudrillard? The Gulf War etc?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-11 15:38 [#00121097]
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i agree with crowley:
SIT STILL STOP THINKING SHUT UP GET OUT!
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 15:40 [#00121098]
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Just a second here: meta-naratives as in: Truth, Justice, Humanity etc...
It's not how much I agree, it's how much he has me rethinking the things I thought were beyond any further analysis... Postmodernism (or shall we call it post structuralism, as it sounds a little less fashionable) is all about taking very different perspective on what you already know (while modernism was all about inventing new). Uh, the gulf war? That article was dead on.
Funny how we succeed in turning every thread into socio-political debate. Phobia will have our asses.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-11 15:42 [#00121100]
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i like to talk about "wider" issues...
...back to meta-narrative -- we now require a definition of the word narrative...i took this contextual definition to mean straight storytelling
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-11 15:45 [#00121104]
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you know, i've been thinking - i've always hated the label Postmodernism; always struck me as sounding so 1950s...and now i am thinking of labels, which i also hate -- as you may know, the word CONVENTION has its root in the word CONVENIENCE...labels are used as a convention - but i am disturbed because, when using labels, a lot of people think withing the insular confines of whichever LABEL they are talking under... the universe is one, there are no Label Walls between things - they are all inter-related. this may sound like a sudden burst of static, but it's just what occurred to me...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 15:46 [#00121105]
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No, no storytelling, but those big concepts that we base almost the whole of our culture on.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 15:47 [#00121107]
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Marlowe: you just stumbled upon founding postmodernist concepts.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-11 15:48 [#00121108]
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I love The Police... and I love Stings solo stuff... They Dance Alone, and All This Time are great songs...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-11 15:48 [#00121109]
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what are the big concepts? truth, justice, humanity? i don't see an awful lot of that triumvirate of righteousness
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-11 15:49 [#00121111]
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shit, does that make me a postmodernist! :S
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-11 15:51 [#00121115]
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No, it's just that it's, for instance always been considered that there actually exists one objective truth, regardless of if there's anyone knowing it (an implicit reference to God I guess).
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chapman
from United Kingdom on 2002-03-11 15:51 [#00121116]
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The Police are legends.
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