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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-24 23:27 [#01976846]
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If this was you, what would you do? That is, if you were the American President, what would you do with the powers granted you by the people? Why the American President? Because at this moment in history, America is the only superpower and the President has the power to shift the course of history for good or bad. Of course this wasn’t always so and will not always be, but at the moment it is.
So, if you’re up to it, will you take the reins?
What kind of leader will you be?
Be serious about it if you can. Take into account all the variables in play including whatever you know about the various peoples of the world and so on. If you want to dissolve the military, open all the borders, or nuke everyone, understand the repercussions if any. And I’m sure others on the board will point out what they think are fallacies or grand ideas.
I’m particularly interested in what the “revolutionaries/anarchists” of the board will do. If you guys had the power of the President, with all sincerity, what would you do?
So there you go.
Who wants to be the leader of the free world?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-09-25 00:48 [#01976858]
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I wouldn't want that job. Its kind of one of those right person for the right job. The important part is that they are able to inspire respect and confidence in the public, even those that don't believe in the same ideals. Bush isn't the right kinda guy for that.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2006-09-25 00:55 [#01976860]
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i would probably get wasted all the time because i hate myself.
..oh wait.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-25 01:54 [#01976877]
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bush is not the fucking leader of the fucking free world, no one is, but Kofi Annan should be. the UN should have more clout.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-25 03:41 [#01976904]
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I'd use my army to threaten everyone else to disband their armies before disbanding my own. Then I'd have a glass of whiskey.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-09-25 04:00 [#01976922]
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I cannot support the idea of me as a new world order leader.
so i say that if there will be a "free" new world order,then the "Leader" will be a woman.yes,will be a woman.
I agree with mate Ezkerraldean in the UN idea,but... Maybe Condolezza Rice is waiting her chance to LEAD.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-09-25 04:14 [#01976929]
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condi as president. god save us.
i'll reply to this with my own thoughts later.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-25 04:14 [#01976930]
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if only the USA and the UK didnt just shit all over the UN and they actually listened to it, it might be useful.
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staz
on 2006-09-25 04:28 [#01976932]
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welcome back falito
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-25 04:53 [#01976939]
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nutella is back!
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-09-25 06:53 [#01976995]
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thanks my friends,but i,like Acid never have gone!!! what is back is this thread to the TOP!
cheers also to Mr.Brasil for his good topics
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-09-25 07:10 [#01977001]
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- try my best to reverse foreign policy of the past 50 years:
- end trade embargo against cuba - mend relations with south american nations - close guantanamo - end "extraordinary rendition" - repeal laws recently introduced which retroactively legalise bush's wiretapping
- enact laws of proper environmental conservation, high taxes and penalties on corporations found to be polluting the environment
- higher taxes on high-earners, lower taxes on low-earners - increase spending on social services by a huge amount - decrease spending on the military by a huge amount - cease donations of military aid - reverse bush's decision to privatise social security - replace bolton with someone else who'd be a more appropriate ambassador to the UN
- try to instill a sense of respect for the UN and other world nations in congress, the senate, in american culture in general
the following would be of my belief, but i wouldn't necessarily implement them. they'd be very difficult to implement, and, in my opinion, less important than those listed above:
- tighten gun controls - legalise same sex union (not marriage) - a few others i can't think of right now.
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rad smiles
on 2006-09-25 10:47 [#01977127]
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get everyone in trouble for whats been going on and end oil consumption asap
turn everyone into pussy hippies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-09-25 11:30 [#01977156]
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dude, lol
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-25 12:43 [#01977228]
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We can't win a conventional war in Afganistan and Iraq now, so I'd just nuke the middle east.
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rad smiles
on 2006-09-25 14:13 [#01977313]
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really though id make getting the country/world off oil my #1 priority.
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hexane
on 2006-09-26 10:01 [#01977793]
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agreed, invest billion$ from oil profits into alternative energy sources. tap into plentiful ambient energies somehow by exploiting gravity/anti- and everyone gets free power minus the slavery. no more shitty war over resources or soul-grinding jobs
wouldn't that be the shit. #1 priority
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hexane
on 2006-09-26 10:01 [#01977794]
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agreed, invest billion$ from oil profits into alternative energy sources. tap into plentiful ambient energies somehow by exploiting gravity/anti- and everyone gets free power minus the slavery. no more shitty war over resources or soul-grinding jobs
wouldn't that be the shit. #1 priority
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-26 19:48 [#01978220]
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I'd have figured your ideas would be a little more "extreme", but what you offer as Leader of the Free World is quite reasonable. You're very rational.
I think the only reason same-sex unions haven't been passed into law is that my country is a bit religious, or at least our current leader(s) are. But why a union only and not actual marriage? Do I detect a slight conservative bent in you?
Drunken Mastah: What happens if while enjoying your whiskey a country decides to assemble a rag-tag force of its citizens to exact revenge on what you've done?
No unabomber offering anything? How about that chamber noir(sp?) guy? Those guys always talk about how bad it is over here. Well, what would you do? Anarchy! and Revolution! all around, I suppose.
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rad smiles
on 2006-09-26 19:51 [#01978222]
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theres too much violence already. its a scary world.
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rad smiles
on 2006-09-26 19:52 [#01978223]
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but anybody who disagreed with me would naturally be excecuted. right?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-09-26 22:07 [#01978247]
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hello, thanks for the kind remarks. i expected my same-sex comment to spark a furory of debate, but my post killed the thread :)
as for same-sex union, and not marriage... i've always seen the idea of "same-sex marriage" as a bit of a contradiction in terms. Marriage is a religious rite and sacrament. homosexuality defies the core teachings of most mainstream religions and so therefore i think the idea of same-sex marriage is ludacrous (sp? i'm drunk.)
so instead of imposing on religious organisations, i'd propose a same sex union. this would benefit gay couples in the way that marriage benefits heterosexual couples (with tax allowances, etc.. my parents have alyways said that marriage these days is, unfortunately, more like a financial agreement than anything else.) so they'd be recognised as a unit, but wouldn't be religiously married.
this would, however, piss off extreme gay rights activists, who would see it as a "second-rate marriage"...
it's a tough one, but that's where i stand.. i just see the idea of same sex marriage as completely nonsensical.
i hope this has made sense.
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-V-
from Ensenada Drive on 2006-09-26 22:22 [#01978250]
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If you wanted to make it completely fair, you could strip the term "marriage" completely from any sort of government involvement, defining it as a strictly religious doctrine. Then a civil union would be the most any 2 people could obtain from the government.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-27 00:04 [#01978273]
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Well, first of all, that thing you call The Free World, is an illusion "that has been put in front of you, to blind you from the truth".
Then, there's no such thing as a leader. Busch is a stupid puppet controlled by the great corporations. Jesuschrist, he knows no shit about anything and has absolutely no real power off decission.
So, the question is... What would I do if I was the face the money uses to slave us in this world of misery while pretending it's the best there is?
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-27 00:05 [#01978274]
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I would shoot myself.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-27 03:29 [#01978305]
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I bludgeon them with my mega penis
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-29 00:30 [#01979333]
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Actually there is really no other recourse.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-29 00:50 [#01979334]
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"I would shoot myself."
Really? That's not very anarchy like, definitely not revolutionary. It's...well, a pussy move. I'd had figured you'd had said something like, "Burn it to the ground!" while listening to a Rage Against the Machine song. Or something.
But really, you're the President, you can order the withdraw of troops from Iraq, close military bases across the world, put regulations on corporations, etc.
You know, it often sounds like your ethos of revolution and anarchy is just something that you employ in your life as an additive to your personal "story". Just to have something exciting to be vaguely linked to. "Hey, I believe in revolution!"
Kind of like back in high school with kids that dressed in "gang" clothing/colors just to seem involved in something while actually never belonging to a gang.
Look at what redrum wrote.
Do you have ideas?
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-29 01:07 [#01979338]
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I have lots of ideas, but none includes the term "order". And let me tell you Revolution is in your heart to die for it, not in your mouth to live from it.
I gave up on this kind of discussion long ago. I do what I think I got to do. No need to explain.
And being an anarchist, what sense would it make to become President and tell everyone what to do?
And the pussy move is to think the president can regulate corporations, when in fact it's the other way.
And you know NOTHING about my life or my story. I don't need something exciting to be vaguely linked to. I live a meaningfull ultraexciting life. And I never ever start an argument about politics. I don't "employ" my political thoughts to get enganged in silly discussions. I use them to lead me to the right actions. In silence. I'm not a speech dude, I'm the one throwing stones.
And what you figured I would say is a 16 years old boy cliché.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-29 01:15 [#01979341]
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And the idea behind your questio is that it minds WHO is the president. Something like that there can be a GOOD president.
In fact, anarchists are against the idea of a government whatever the government itself is.
Even good fella Redrum would become a licit target given the chance he would become prsident under the anarchist agenda. But I think he already nows that.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-10-29 00:52 [#01994308]
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And what you figured I would say is a 16 years old boy cliché.
And what's this?
I'm not a speech dude, I'm the one throwing stones.
That sounds very juvenile to me.
I bet you live a splendid, well ordered life in Spain.
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Bill Burroughs
from Colombia on 2006-10-29 04:34 [#01994361]
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Bush is not the leader of the free world. And more freedom is enjoyed by most Europeans than most Americans. The people of the US just don't know it and don't want to believe it.
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rad smiles
on 2006-10-29 10:16 [#01994472]
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man you crack me up. you're right though.
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Bill Burroughs
from Colombia on 2006-10-29 11:48 [#01994538]
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you'd better aks somebody.
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rad smiles
on 2006-10-29 14:08 [#01994671]
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i'll ask tony blair
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Bill Burroughs
from Colombia on 2006-10-29 14:17 [#01994678]
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don't ask him. aks him, vanilla-face.
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rad smiles
on 2006-10-29 14:20 [#01994681]
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who sings that horrible early 90s song that goes "im free to do what i want any old time"
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-29 14:32 [#01994682]
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Was it the Soup Dragons, only to be covered by The Rolling Stones 30 years before.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-10-29 14:46 [#01994683]
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i would vote for you
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-10-30 00:06 [#01994806]
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"I bet you live a splendid, well ordered life in Spain."
LOL, you have no fuckin' idea, dude. I'll repeat that: NO FUCKIN IDEA!
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-10-30 00:16 [#01994808]
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My SPLENDID hood!
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-10-30 00:23 [#01994810]
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Shit. I figured that I spoke out of line on that, man. I looked at it after I posted it and thought, shit, I have no idea about his life (your life) or country. I don't. So, no better time to learn. Tell me Spain through your eyes. Let me know what's going on there. Seriously.
Though I can't respond to anything tonight since I have to go to sleep to get up early for school tomorrow (actually today, a few hours from now). I'll read what you write later.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-10-30 04:58 [#01994861]
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The most important change: Campaign Finance Reform, so someday a forward thinking Green Party member or Libertarian could get elected without the special interest money machines backing them.
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rad smiles
on 2006-10-30 06:32 [#01994887]
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that'd be nice. thats my only hope for american politics.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-10-30 12:48 [#01995238]
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I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. I was half expecting an armored car roaming the streets with a Spaniard manning a turreted gatling gun enforcing racial cleansing or something. All I really see is a filthy street corner. Sorry. Maybe there's more in the text, but I can't read that. Perhaps you can translate it. I know, the syringes, but that's any street anywhere. I lived in those conditions before, but got out. Now, those birds, that's a bit scary. How the fuck did they meet their demise? If they fell out of the sky while flying by because that neighborhood is so fucking badass a mile high then that's a different story. Nice to see that the moo-moo is international, though.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-30 12:59 [#01995256]
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Al de m m m
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TACITURN
on 2009-10-29 15:20 [#02340839]
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-29 16:27 [#02340861]
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:O
I thought they were just a myth!
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-29 16:30 [#02340862]
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I'd had figured you'd had said something like, "Burn it to the ground!" while listening to a Rage Against the Machine song. Or something.
XD
Is that your view of Anarchists? Awesome. :D
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-29 16:40 [#02340868]
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Aw- Server not found! :(
Is there graffiti where you are from, unabomber? There seems to be a lot of cool graffiti in Spain. Where in Spain do you live?
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