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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-19 06:19 [#01973747]
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Obsession
An interesting documentary. Note: It states clearly that this film is NOT about the MAJORITY of Muslims, who are PEACEFUL. I do not agree with all of its views, but it still contains some very, very worrying footage.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-19 06:25 [#01973754]
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i love radical religion. you get to kill loads of people, and you still go to heaven!
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-09-19 06:59 [#01973772]
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haha....doesn't sound so bad.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-09-19 07:11 [#01973778]
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pretty much as if muslims would have filmed a documentary on some western army and say "most christians are peaceful and this is not a film about them". the only difference is that one side does it because of religious beliefs and the other because they're told so.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-19 08:33 [#01973807]
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THIS IS RADICAL!
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2006-09-19 08:34 [#01973808]
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THIS is worrisome to me.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-19 08:43 [#01973809]
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just as scary as islamic fundamentalism
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epohs
from )C: on 2006-09-19 08:43 [#01973810]
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Radical.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-19 08:53 [#01973815]
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oh FFS. that woman is saying they give kids grenades in palestine and the kids she is talking to are all disgusted, and at the end she is shouting "this is war! are you part of it or not?"
christian fundamentalism = islamic fundamentalism
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2006-09-19 08:54 [#01973819]
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... all in the name of religion = bullshit! it's not the religion, it's the fucking idiot people
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-19 08:57 [#01973821]
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i know. regardless of religion, its literalist religion that is dangerous, and the sort of people who believe in it
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epohs
from )C: on 2006-09-19 09:13 [#01973831]
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it's the religion and the people... i mean, who's to say that the literalist isn't more correct than the one who picks and chooses which teachings to follow?
it is an entirely fundamentally flawed system.
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-09-19 09:17 [#01973836]
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haha, wtf
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faaip_de_oiad
from Sirius (United States) on 2006-09-19 09:29 [#01973841]
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Religion is the root cause of the majority of the problems in this world!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-09-19 09:42 [#01973848]
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I don't like how they're kneeling down to putin and categorizing the chechen rebels as islamic fundamentalists/jihadists
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-09-19 09:45 [#01973850]
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and me too...*but the media needs food,and the goverments are murders for money.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-09-19 10:19 [#01973887]
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Christian fundamentalism isn't really a religion, its a culture. Christianity is just a basis for these people to reason their values into their culture.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-09-19 13:18 [#01974006]
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Well said. These people would act similar reguardless of what society they are born into. Some just so happen to he born into muslim society, some to christian.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-19 13:20 [#01974008]
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Why does a discussion on any fanatical religious problem always shift very quickly in focus towards Christianity? I'm in no way saying that Christian fundimentalism isn't a problem-it is-but I've noticed in a number of forums that any topic on extremist muslims, or any other problematic religious issue, always switches straight towards an attack on right-wing Christianity and related issues. Maybe it's because that's shoved in our faces more often...
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-19 13:22 [#01974011]
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Religion is fucking stupid. Even nice "spiritual" moderate religion. It's all bollocks, why do people have to keep making this point?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-09-19 13:50 [#01974034]
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Because religion itself isn't stupid.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-09-19 13:52 [#01974035]
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People will talk about what they know. Chances are more people know christian fundamentalists that scare them than they do muslim fundamentalists that scare them.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-09-19 13:57 [#01974039]
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christian fundamentalism is shoved in our faces more than islamic fundamentalism?
get real.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-09-19 13:58 [#01974040]
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Simple people usually jump to the first extreme that they see accomodates their opinion. Be it muslim, christian, or atheist.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-19 14:00 [#01974041]
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Of course it's stupid, you can't have it both ways. "Oh well some religious people are nice and reasonable and don't mind where I put my winky, and don't like killing other people." Big deal, the only reason something like modern liberal christianity is tolerable is because it's so wishy-washy. It's a great thing that religion is dying in the West. (Outside of the American bible belt, of course.) and every time I hear about falling church attendence in the UK I feel very happy.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-09-19 14:11 [#01974049]
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Religion is dying in the bible belt.
Whether or not you are religious, you have to admit that it has positive effects on individuals more than negative effects. For that, you can't really blame anyone (though it may have negative effects on society).
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2006-09-19 14:41 [#01974073]
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i think the worrying thing about islam is the doctrine it is founded on; a doctrine that openly tells its follows to kill disbelievers and to beat women.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-19 14:42 [#01974076]
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Christianity is just as bad.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2006-09-19 14:46 [#01974081]
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i disagree 100%
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-09-20 01:21 [#01974276]
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Hmmm. Marshall Mcluhan was a devout christian. He's one of the strongest minds I can think of that insofar as the study of rhetoric and its effects on our culture is concerned. Religion isn't stupid. When its not taken to an extreme, it can focus people into a more positive and productive direction. Its not the religion that causes problems. Its religion in the hands of people who are poorly wired that causes problems.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-09-20 02:03 [#01974290]
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Totally agree Taxi.
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