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i think some of this is a bit far, but yes its a nice idea. but would never work if everyone did it. so is that selfish to think like that? discuss |
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what everr happened to you, like, leaving? |
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i did leave. but i never said i wasnt coming back. actually i probably did. |
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Nice article, thanks. |
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the answer is positive thinking. |
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Today, gone are good company, good cheer and good beer as cures. Melancholy has been professionalised, commodified, industrialised. It has been transformed into a "condition" with a costly chemical cure. These pills make the most gigantic profits for their dealers, the drugs giants. Depression is big business. Well, Thom Yorke's making a fortune, I guess. |
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Driving without insurance? Nice. Contrary to popular belief, if you have an accident that's your fault when you're uninsured, the other party won't be "taken care of" by the pot the insurers all pay into for uninsured losses. The person will only get a tiny fraction of what they should have. For example, if you put them in a wheelchair, they will get about £20K as opposed to the hundreds of thousands of pounds they would get. So, it would appear you can be free, iso long as you're prepared to fuck over other people. Which is exactly what those at the top in business do. So it makes you a hypocrite (I mean if you follow this course of action- not you personally i_x_ten). Sounds like once again, a deadbeat slacker is trying to intellectualise and morally justify a course of action they'd take anyway, regardless of the morality of the thing. |
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Carl: Why are you that way with people ? |
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you base your point on one (1) aspect out of the article, not even one he actually presents as something you should do. I would call that kind of missing the point. |
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thanks both i_x_ten and J198, interesting reading! |
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irresponsibility does not give freedom, and you should be honest as possible. |
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its a complex question. as i see it the main reason not to go homeless and live peripatetically or transcendentally is to brave the phenomenon of other- ness. however it gets cold some nights where i live and i am reluctant to do it. |
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what he's basically saying, though, is not that you should shirk all sense of responsibility, just that not everything you are feeling responsible for is actually your responsibility in the first place, that society as it is structured these days is geared to making you think unimportant things are important. I quite like the ideas he proposes. I don't think it's that much about immediately wanting people to change their ways (although I don't doubt that is his intention in the end), but more that people think about their situation, think about how they live and why they live like they do. |
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i know who wrote this |
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heh. |
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Uncle Ted? He never comes over for Christmas anymore... |
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the way I see it the problem is quite the opposite.. people don't take enough responsibility for their actions as it is. he also quotes my ethics lecturer who is a bit.. well.. irresponsible to begin with. he also keeps spouting movie references in all directions, and quite missed the point about boredom, imo. |
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I tried not to be anxious once, but at the time they were getting ready to burn me for false accusations that I was a witch. It worked really good. They lit my cross and my flesh started sizzling and I was just like 'who cares'. |
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Pretty interesting read, that |
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No, that was just one facet of shirking responsibility (admittedly what to my mind, is the worst out of the things he described). Not paying your household bills is also irresponsible and selfish. "Oh they're a big corporation; they can afford it!" Nope. Non-payment of bills and the costs associated with recovering them don't go to the company; they don't dent their profits. The companies just up their bills to compensate. So, once again, it's your peers that suffer/foot the bill, rather than these big faceless capitalistic organisations. Also, he advises against getting a pension. Not entirely unreasonable; I myself don't have pension, I prefer to put my money into property which I plan to lease to pay for my retirement. Fairly sensible; no one is going to be able to do a fast one with my property, whereas they can with my pension. I can enjoy the property now (and money from renting it), so if I lunch myself on my motorbike next year, I won't of wasted the money on a pension I'll never get. So in this respect I agree with the article. Again though, he also suggests a rather unpleasent alternative, "Another option is simply to give up and let God provide, and when I say "God", I mean friends, relatives and neighbours." Any friends/relatives/neighbours of mine who have chosen not to work (rather than been unable to) can fuck off when it comes to me gifting them money to allow them to retire. I wish the state also shared this view. He talks about Burton's Anatomy of Melancholy (Good book, if a bit slow in places). He seems to of missed the whole point: There's always been a sense of sadness/unfullfilment and wanting a better life. Even hundreds of years ago, people still got depressed when we all worked with our hands. Capitalism may exaccerbate the situation, but it's not the sole creator of this problem. |
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what i want to know is how does he propose to earn 10 grand a year with no job? nice ideas in the article but saying that society is fucked and blaming that for all is a bit like stating the obvious imho |
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and here's a story about |
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you're free, but how do you stay ? |
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i guess there's always eating meat exclusively and exclusively and withdrawing from benzodiazepines on youtube, or, less preferably, the joe rogan experience |
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