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at least good one is. for me popular electronic music is going nowhere atm (appart from very few artists that have been around for quite some time now). and it's funny it wore out so quickly since it's the youngest of all the genres. rock music is still going strong, so is folk and all sorts of guitar music. im thinking it's because those people who write guitar music have knowledge opposed to (most) people in electronic music who more or less just play around. it's not so long ago when xltronic was full of threads about cool new albums and look at it nowdays.. |
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the world still thinks that all electronic music is Moby. or shit that goes " DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH". Then they wonder what the music is in MTV's credits and the music in Scion commercials. etc etc. electronic music= the matrix album, Eiffel 65, BarbyGirl, Chemical Brothers, The Techno remixes of Motzart etc etc... Cell Phone Ringtons make it clear that Mass american Media has no fucking clue about what electronic music has been doing since 97. Esp in that ModTones,Xringer, Ringster, etc etc (some popular cellphone ringtone services) have Techno,Electronica (whichever) as a category but only have shit that came out 94-99(if that) and only: Moby, Chemical Bros, The Matrix Theme, Barby Girl, Darude- Sandstorms, Enya. etc etc I dont know if it is this bad in Europe or Scandinavia. |
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Rock and folk are going strong because they are easy for people to understand. Electronic stuff is more ambiguous, even as far back as Eno, it's like: "What emotion does this provoke?" It's a little bit vague. (In a good way of course!) |
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goins strong in terms of creativity is what i meant. and no one makes music like eno anymore. not even eno. |
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Then what rock is going strong creatively? Seems like it's repeating itself for the last 20 years to me. |
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im not going to name 200 bands now. |
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true. EMOPOSTHARDCORESCREAMOPOPPUNKARTROCKBRITISHINVASIONWANNABEP MTV only plays RAPHIPHOPR&BCRUNK and UNKCRAPROCKCUNTROCK oh and I heard them play a track by the PRODIGY at 3am on MTV2 once. oh and i watched the VMA'S MTV MTV2 MTV TRES??? (there is already a MTV LATINO so FUCK YOU JLO) MTV2 was the rock/metal thing but never again. Iam suprised there isnt an MTVREALWORLD/ROADRULS or a MTVBAM. get that shit off the main station and play a variety you cunts. |
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rock is regurgitating just as much, really, even the most avantgarde and obscure ones. |
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the thing is it's interesting because it's aware of its past. which i couldn't say for electronica. |
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I can say that used to be a Real Mans music and now it sounds like a Real Pussy sort of thing. I wish Metal didnt suck as much either. |
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it used to had substance more like it. |
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no music is difficult to write... and all music is its strange... im into the off tune songs these dayz :) |
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Well, with electronic music, I think it is standing still becuase there are SO many possibilities of what to do with it, that we stick with the few ways we know to make electronic music. I still think the dreams for electronic music from the middle of the century have yet to be realized. Electronic music being pursued by theorists (there are several out there, but they come far from the significance of other artists) is something that interests me, as I think it has been overlooked. Rock really isn't that interesting either, though. I was briefly into rock for a while, until I realized that I just wanted a break from electronic, that it didn't really have anything new. |
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a preview of one of the last tunes i've been working on. ---> |
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i wasn't thinking of academic electronica as much as popular.. |
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that's the link... sorry... ---> |
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i can aswell close this thread now. |
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hey... its a good thread man!! i like it... im sorry if i posted something that didnt look good to you. didn't mean anything bad i swear. just casuaL stuff from a drunken night out. : ) peace |
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you proved me wrong with that song is what i meant :-) |
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It's because the kids are full of shit nowadays. |
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oh sorry... : )))) i should quit the boozing. hehehe thank you sir |
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it seems on a trend toward minimalism although rhythmic minimalism can still be dynamic and innovative; scales can only go so far and microtonalism bores me i think autechre are at the vanguard as far as the relevance and ingenuity of their sound synthesis but theres also the argument for stylistic consistency & real talent in thematic emotional composition. |
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It's a shame no one will ever hear your turgid crap outside of your Canadian Lesbian Electro Workshop. |
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"the thing is it's interesting because it's aware of its past. which i couldn't say for electronica. " I'm not sure I'm following your argument. If a person who has never heard of Led Zepplin writes a song that sounds like one of theirs, you can't exactly say the music, or even the musician, is aware of its heritage. I'm not a fan of metallica, by any stretch, and I've only heard a handful of their songs in my life. My band a few years ago had written a song with a riff in it that was exactly like one found in a metallica song that I heard later, and I realized we had to change the song. What I am failing to say succinctly is that 2 people with very different musical influences can write very similar music "if the mood strikes" so to speak. I think most musicians eventually branch out from their roots at some point, and if this is true then a steady evolution of rock music is inevitable. ---- (this is not directed at tolstoyed) I agree that Rock music, for the most part, is being rehashed, but there have got to be a few bands out there that are still making music wildly different music. The main problem these days is deciding which music is "rock" and which isn't, because if you have a very precise and narrow definition of what Rock music should be (ie, classic rock), then most likely you would agree that not much new ground has been covered these last few years. I think, perhaps, that people such as myself, who already listen to electronic music, have a broader definition of what could be considered rock, and in that case there must certainly be pioneers to be heard. |
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i think music is exciting still, and we're all learning from each other. it's not holy, it's just fun. people are really uptight and scared when it comes to their religion sometimes. chill out and take it e-z. there are no laws here, so it's cool. don't try to enforce any. |
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we would need another windowlicker it seems to bring ou this style more. read the first post, the replies dont really correspond correctly. my fault. |
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im not really sure what you're trying to say there in the first part. i wasn't talking about those cover bands or something. more about bands that are aware of how rock music was developing and are able to continue develope those ideas. and for the second part - i didn't mean calssic rock. rock is a very broad term yeah, but i was in general thinking of guitar/bass/drums thing with all sort of variations and other instruments included. |
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i don't care about rules but this what we have in electronic music (for the bigger part) now is just unexciting. |
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well, the palette is seemingly more constricted than the "rock" one which has grown so big over the years it's hard to pinpoint the genre easily anymore. electronic can just be... well, electronic. it operates under a different culture and has a very different "ideology" of sound, it seems. i dunno, i still find loads of exciting music, i don't really tend to get disappointed like that because i don't really think in genres when it comes to discovering the latest and greatest. |
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its a very subjective matter but a good thread nevertheless, i can see both the points made by tolstoyed and staz depending on the mood, but yeah it's not like when i was a teenager for sure. |
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cover bands? no, man. I'm talking about how loads of rock music gets made without the artists having any shred of awareness of how shamelessly similar it is to music that was better the first time around. Sometimes it happens by mistake, sometimes it occurs by design. Basically, I was saying I'm not sure where you're going with the "rock music is aware of itself" thing. |
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i've had friends in rock bands and in rap groups, and heard them both instruct each other to try and sound more like someother artist. its not a big deal at all to sound or purposefully try to sound like another. music like math repeats itself, any one thing can be expressed in limitless ways |
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Moby - The matrix is a really good techno song |
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