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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-14 03:02 [#01970537]
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Urei 1601 Any opinion on this mixer? I'm planin' to get a new mixer and so far this one seems like a good option.
330 eur. at htfr... half price offer...
Thnx
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-14 03:08 [#01970540]
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that looks really weird.. what are its specs?
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-14 03:11 [#01970544]
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Product Review The 1601 is a purpose-built digital mixer, hand-engineered in the uk by professional audio technicians at soundcraft, for the ultimate in mixer quality and sound. A digital mixer ergonomically designed to complement scratch djs and turntablists, enabling them to maximise their creative potential. Packed with unique features such as the hi-pass filter to instantly and effectively remove turntable rumble and feedback that may arise from bass heavy performance or poor connections. Also incorporated is an aural exciter to boost those tightly pressed vinyls and to accentuate your scratches significantly. Built to survive hours of practise with fully replaceable faders and knobs and reverse / curve adjust on all faders. The 1601 is a two channel battle mixer that equally suits smooth club style mixing with clean, open fader section for quick manoeuvres, 360 degree customizable phono line switches, crossfader monitor selector, backlit headphone out with eq, ultra clear input and output level monitoring leds, full cut hi, mid, low eq rotary pots and a superb flexible send and return fx loop with pre / post fader and return channel assign, the 1601 is a very versatile and customizable performance mixer complete with the legendary urei sound quality. Finished with non-wear anodised top plate and striking red, white and blue monitor leds, the urei 1601 is nothing short of formidable in every way a mixer could be.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-14 03:12 [#01970546]
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Technical Specifications 2 channel mixer 6 inputs inc mic / line 3 band eq on each channel with kill 2 band eq on mic / line Independent gain controls on each channel Replaceable crossfader with full curve control & reverse Input faders with full curve & reverse Fully adjustable headphone monitoring system with full tone control
Aural exciter switch with frequency and mix controls (boost bad vinyl quality, accenuate scratches and sonicly enhance mixes)
Stereo / mono output switch Xlr balanced master out Phono master out Xlr booth output Phono booth out Fully assignable fx send & return Pre / post fader select Fx return matrix assign (return over ch1, ch2 or master) Non-wear anodised face plate Red, white & blue led monitoring High pass filer to remove rumble and hum 395mm (h) x 280 (w) x 90 (d) 240 volts Hand-engineered in the uk by soundcraft audio technicians Now compatible with the pro crossfader (mr168426)
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-09-14 03:13 [#01970547]
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desde luego se ve raro,inteligente y funcional ...como tu mismo=) a por el!
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-14 03:13 [#01970548]
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Here it is...
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-14 03:15 [#01970549]
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Jeje! Gracias! Aunque no se que le veis de raro...
DM: What's so weir about it?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-14 03:17 [#01970551]
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Looks like it's Soundcraft rebadged from the description. I've not used that particular one, but I've not really been impressed by the 2 or 3 soundcraft mixers I've used.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-14 03:21 [#01970552]
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Why? Sound? Build quality?
Sure will be better than my Roland Dj Mixer. The fucker bleeds and makes tons of noise...
And for that price range I can't afford the Pro Vestax (I think u r a Vestax user, don't u?)
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-09-14 03:37 [#01970558]
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*raro como algo,"diferente" o "especial" interesante la tienda.)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-14 04:03 [#01970562]
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I can't be 100% the third one wasn't Citronic (I sometimes confuse the two) On one of them the sound was noticeably bad, the other one didn't impress me much. The feel of the general build quality (especially faders/knobs) was a bit flimsy and didn't seem like they'd last very vell. One of them was the mixer in a nightclub, so to be fair it had had a rough life, but it hadn't held up well; bleeding faders, crackle when the headphones were moved, etc.
Come to think of it, I've actually got a Soundlab mixer myself, too. A little 4 channel mono one. It's fine for putting 4 devices into one channel on a normal mixer and because the dials on it are rarely used, it has held up well (had it about 4 years now).
My advice would always be to go for a more basic spec, less feature-rich, but better built mixer. This is even more relevant on a scratch mixer (I assume that's what you want it for?) I find I often end up not using the extra features on myPMC-270A (this is a 275, but they're near identical, bar the crossfader) and in fact, my (to my mind, better) PMC-06 is attached to my 'tables instead.
I know people will call me a vestax salesman (I'm not- I wrote a reasonably critical review of their Faderboard) but I'd consider a good condition second hand mixer of better build quality over one of those- it'll last longer too probably. EG My 270 is second hand and in a total of about 7 years heavy use (both myself and the previous owner have gigged it) and it still looks/performs like new. Only thing replaced on it was one xfader, which cost £20. Even if you don't like it, you'll be able to sell it without much of a loss in a few months time, whereas a new one will depreciate more.
RE: not being to afford a vestax. You should be able to find a new PMC-06 for that sort of money and have lots of cash left over (could be spent on an even better crossfader) LAZY_06.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-14 04:15 [#01970566]
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...and even if you definately do want more features: EQ kills, fx send/return, etc. I think this would probably be better than the Urei.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-14 04:46 [#01970580]
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Hmmmm... You're right, it's for scratching purposes. The 275 looks nice, and not that much more money... So, assuming it's better quality I may check that. Thnx!
(checkin mode enganged)
Also, I may say that the Urei has got good reviews in Scratchwork, and u r the one who sent me there...
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-14 04:51 [#01970583]
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Also, ever tried a Samurai PMC07? Worth the money? Seems like a dream...
here...
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-14 05:08 [#01970588]
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i'm saving for a rane ttm56, myself
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-14 05:16 [#01970590]
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Just found the Vestax PMC-08 Pro Mixer. Woha! Maybe I should keep workin' with what I've got and save for that...
The Rane seems very good, but I don't like the looks. Stupid, I know, but what can I do...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-14 05:22 [#01970591]
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Don't get the 275 for scratching! I was just using it to illustrate how I often don't use/need the extra features on a mixer. It's great for techno and longer mixes though :)
Might be worth reading up on if you can shoe-horn a scratch mixer xfader into it (then it'd be excellent, so long as you didn't want really free moving upfaders), but even if it's technically possible, total cost would be fairly high.
I've never tried the Samurai version of the 07/don't know anyone other than Gizmo (off Skratchworx) who has. I've got the samurai version of the 06 though and it's great. Slight dead area at either end of the xfader is the only negative thing I have to say about it. Once it gets to where the sound is coming in though, it doesn't half come in fast. I find I don't use the special curves at all really, just the standard one turned to sharpest.
Re: The price, I was very lucky to get mine for the price I did. I got it prior to Vestax's price hike (way to compete with Rane, Vestax *claps slowly* ;-) ) and at a low price even then.
Personally, I don't notice the slightly high, metallic quality to the sound of the samurai that some people claim (and in any event; lets be frank, most scratch carts sound quality is already less than optimal, so unless you're running an audiophile setup into it, it's largely irrelvant). To me it seems a bit emporer's new clothes; analogue purists resenting the digital xfader in it...
Horsefactory: Very, very nice. That's the only thing I can ever see myself replacing my 06 Pro D with. The Rane isn't a big enough leap (and I'm not good enough to take advantage of the difference anyway) from it to justify the cost of me replacing it IMO. If my 06 was nicked/broken though, it'd be the ttm56 I'd replace it with.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-14 05:30 [#01970599]
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Ok. I changed my mind... But will have to wait for XMas! It's quiete expensive, but looks like a winner for me.
PMC-08 Pro Mixer. Black.
Whoaaaa!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-14 05:37 [#01970602]
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Teh sex0r!
Lovely looking mixer. I've not played with one, but Skratchworx loved it and it's a top end Vestax so it's unlikely you'll be disappointed. Let us know/hear how you get on with it.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-14 05:43 [#01970607]
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Three months with no booze and less drugs/tobacco than usual and hopefully I let u kow when Santa is around!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-14 05:47 [#01970608]
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He he, took me months and months to save for my decks and 275 and then the same again for the 06. You can do it mate!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-14 09:21 [#01970678]
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I second the motion to get a vestax
I've had no problems, and I spilled beer into it once.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2006-09-14 12:20 [#01970767]
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The first mixer looks fairly horrible, and the second one looks better, but as spawn of Darth Vader it still looks a bit crap.
I would suggest get the Vestax PMC06. either the 'champagne' colour "analogue" one or the black(ish) "digital" samurai fader one.
I have the analogue one and it is great. No bells, no whistles, but does the job perfectly. Value for money is very good.
It is a proven reliable workhorse and doesn't take up as much room as 05. I would suggest 06 over 05.
I would suggest looking at Sapphiers @ decks.co.uk. I got a really good price on my 1210MK5s there, much better than HTFR and the offer also took money off the carts too. Worth checking.
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