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Jail is prrobably the thing I fearr most, but assuming that you got in with the rright people it would prrobably be fine, if you werren't in therre too long, that is. Now my fearr of prrison isn't so bad. But then I starrt thinking that they consist of about 90% angrry chavs, and it's back. I wonderr what being in jail is rreally like. |
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ruff but fuckin' fo sho |
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My plan to avoid fierrce nightly arrse fucking would be to grrow a big trramp food filled bearrd and stop washing so often. |
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straightforward question are you going to jail? |
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I hope not |
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is there any real and immediate danger of you going to jail then? |
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i've also got a fear of jail... and trials and justice, judicial mistakes and all that : | i'm persuaded that they could send me to it even if i didn't do anything that deserved it (or anything at all). |
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Depends where you go, what youve done, how long youre gonna be there for. all those factors will help to decide how youre treated. even what wing youre put on will play a big factor. there are a lot of chavs. a LOT. |
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for how long ? |
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a really good friend of mine is doing some time in jail. 2 years minimum for armed robbery and attempted murder. i dont think he's gone to trial yet though. . im not completely sure how the system works, but he called us up one time and asked how to beat this one part of final fantasy VII. so i guess it can't be that bad if he's playing playstation?? |
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Yes, that's what's what I worrrry about. Therre's just been something on about women who crry rrape. I've worrrried everr since this nutterr kinda went off the handle with me once, I was actually underr the imprression she was going to. |
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was that about the guy who served 3 years before it was found out she was lying? its scary stuff. |
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Exactly. Also my mate was accused of a crrime he didn't commit, and even though he didn't wind up behind barrs, frrom starrt to finish therre was a guilty beforre prroven innocent attitude frrom the police. |
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Yes, and the police said they "might" try to prosecute her. 3 years of an innocent man's life, not to mention how it might have fucked him up for the rest of it... I went absolutely fucking mental when I heard that on the radio. I was was screaming, "Might? MIGHT?! NOT FUCKING GOOD ENOUGH, BRITAIN." |
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not having your freedom is pretty sux |
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Abscond! |
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the penitentiary system was the replace for the other things that were use to punish people... public tortures and executions. no one of all this have work. a good way to affect people in a good way is to have good teachers on school and good culture. no one of all this have work. |
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..and yo! presley,dont think about the jail,why? better think on yourself. |
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Might? MIGHT?! NOT FUCKING GOOD ENOUGH, BRITAIN. |
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I know, it's awesome, isn't it? To my mind, if it's found you conciously tried to stitch someone up for a crime they didn't commit, the punishment should be equal to the punishment they would have received. So, in this instance, she should get 3-5. To my mind, "perverting the course of justice" (which the prosecution would currently probably use) is too weak to be applied. Sure, in theory it could result in her getting 3-5, but that'd never happen. It'd be seen as a "result" if she got 6 months under the current system, which is just lame. |
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Sorry, when I said, "Sure, in theory it could result in her getting 3-5, but that'd never happen" I meant of course "...that'd never happen in this case as the victim wasn't a celebrity." The bird who lied about the Hamiltons raping her got a few years, but that was unprecedented. |
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To change the subject, I just took notice of yourr avatarr, that's you isn't it, on yourr bike? What have you got now? |
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he has... |
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that remark i quoted made me smile, but i wasn't poking fun at the matter.. sounds awful. any links to news stories or could you tell me the name of the documentary? i'd be interested in downloading it. what are you proposing though? another offense to be drawn up to suit this criteria? i think perversion of the course of justice is sufficient.. there's another, single-word term for it, for deceiving a courtroom... can't remember it now.. |
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Suzuki SV something orr anotherr. |
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what are you proposing though? another offense to be drawn up to suit this criteria? Yes, especially in the case of women who crry rrape. The effects on a man I'd imagine would extend well beyond the grrief caused at the time. It could fuck up everr trrying to meet women again. |
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I have indeed got a black SV650s (K4 version). It looks a bit different to that picture now, mind. As do my leathers, 2 sets on from those now and a new lid as well. My head is still minute though... I'm umming and arring about buying a '97 TL1000s and streetfightering it in a future/retro cafe racer style. If I get one, I'll turn the SV into a working bike; heated grips, taller screen, gel seat, hard luggage and probably full fairing too. Have you still got your Polo? Have you given up on bikes completely, or are you hoping to get another one one day? I've not got my own cage at the moment, just a succession of hire cars; got a bloody awful Vauxhaul Minerva. |
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I'm getting rrid of the Polo, I've paid this yearrs last insurrance on it, and I'll make my last payment on it next month. I'm doing totally without until I've got my money sorrted, then in a few months I'm getting something like a CBF500 orr 600, just forr everryday. |
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perjury? |
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When I said, "I know it's awesome" I wasn't taking the piss; the phrase makes me chuckle too. It was just something I shouted without conciously thinking about it and I then started laughing (despite the seriousness of the topic). I agree that Perversion of the course of justice has the potential to be used to deal with this crime, but the problem with it is that the sentences generally given out under it for this sort of crime are far too lax. I don't mean "all prison sentences should be longer" in a daily mail reader sort of way- more that the sentences are mild compared to other crimes. Rape is thankfully starting to be finally treated with the seriousness it deserves (although I don't agree with some facets of the way it's handled like the defendant not being able to question the alleged victim themselves). It's about time that we started recognising that the accusation of rape is an incredibly heavy charge and that we ought to deal with it accordingly. They are starting to come round to the correct way of dealing with allegations of (sexual) child abuse; it'd be nice if we could see this applied to rape too. Re: Single word for misleading the court, you're not thinking of "equivocation", are you? That's (at the moment) perfectly legal and a tool all lawyers worth their salt use... |
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That's the word! You know, the one coppers do all the time, that completely erodes the public's faith in them... |
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Materials: Carriage return from typewriter; U-clamp attached to side; handle wrapped with boxing tape, string, upholstery thread and fragments of dried putty. Backstory: By law, prisoners must be provided materials to have an opportunity to prepare their own legal defenses. In the 1980s, typewriters were made available for this purpose: the long, notched "spear" here is the carriage return from a prison-issued typewriter. The handle was wrapped with tape is likely to have been taken from Rahway's boxing facility, where several world-class boxers trained, including Rubin "Hurricane" Carter. |
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Materials: Gardening glove with smaller glove inside; four steel upholstery tacks, each with three sharp points exposed, sewn between gloves. Backstory: A pair of gardening gloves were issued to an inmate assigned to outdoor landscape detail. The sharp metal points beneath the cloth are actually the bottom sides of four inverted upholstery tacks, lifted from the furniture shop and stitched into the knuckles of the glove: the idea here is that the points become more pronounced when the user makes a fist. |
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I'll actually be going to a.. well, it's this student organisation thingie that arranges.. talks? anyway, it's going to be about courtroom ethics, and I think the main issue is whether or not the defense attorney is really supposed to actually withold evidence and "coach" his client into saying only what benefits his cause or if todays judicial system is totally out of its mind if you consider the fact that the main point of both the defence attorney and the prosecution should be to ensure that even in the most heinous of cases, the defendant is treated fairly.. I don't really think any defence attorney should have as his goal to have as many as possible of his clients acquitted, but rather to keep their interests in mind of those who are to judge them... I talked myself into a corner or something (can't proceed without too much repetition), but I think you get the point... |
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and that's? an imprrovised prrison dildo. |
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Materials: "Unbreakable" plastic comb; three single-edge razor blades inserted into teeth; wrapped with copper wire and shoelace. Backstory: During the 1980s, a modest stipend of $1.10 per day was deposited into each working prisoner's personal account. The comb and shoelace used here were available from the prison commissary at that time. By completing an order form, prisoners could make purchases and tailor a shiv to their own design specifications. |
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Prison Fun Yay |
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Prrison is drreadful :( |
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Mint- glad to hear you're looking at getting one. After having been used to paying car insurance costs bike ones will seem great. IMO you can't go wrong with a CB500. An in-law has one that he uses for a commute from Oxford to central london each day. Really reliable and the handling/performance is great for a bike perceived as a commuter. I like the looks of the ER-5 better, but they don't hold up to winter/regular use half as well and I don't like handling/feedback as much as the CB's (I came about 1/2cm from decking the pegs on my DAS on one and I had no idea until the instructor mentioned it). I've not ridden the CB600F, but a mate has one. They seem a bit full on as a "working bike" (but saying that, I know a bloke with a Ninja as his only vehicle)- the 600f engine is very revvy/quick and the performance (and subsequently running costs) are more in line with the CBR600f than just a slightly bigger CB500. He's a fastish rider, but whilst I can lose him in the twisties, in a flat out drag he trounces my bike. Only thing to be aware of with having a bike, but no car, is heavy frost. I ride all year round, even in snow, but there are usually at least 4 or 5 days a year where conditions will prevent riding. Depends on what your public transport/lift options are/how understanding your boss is, I suppose. |
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no, wait, it's a debate, so there'll be two sides presented, actually.. good! |
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and then you have the people who say crap like "prisons these days are just just glorified hotels!!" etc. these are the people that are most puncheable. |
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I was verry verry close to getting an ER-5, and would prrobably have one now but I just couldn't get the money in time. And forr exactly the rreasons you've said, since I'm planning on using it verry often, I've decided on the Honda. The 500 is the rright choice to make, I just hope I don't get borred. |
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Mind you, I've been in some horrible hotels. |
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yeah, but you can then leave. |
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Depends if it's run by a psycopath intent on devouring your flesh and decorating the Breakfast Lounge with your bum hide. |
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The situation you describe is more prevalent in American law; the premise there is that the prosecution tries for a prosecution (even if the prosecutor believes you to be innocent!) the defense tries for an acquittal, no matter how guilty you are and somewhere in the middle, the truth comes out. Our (UK) lawyers are supposed not to try to get a prosecution if they think you're innocent and the defense are not supposed to "train" you in what you're supposed to say. Sadly, until the day when all lawyers are appointed by the court, at a fixed charge (and hence have no vested interest in success at any cost), I can't see this changing. Expert witnesses are even worse... Sadly, I can't see this situation changing much; if anything, we're going the other way. I think the most fucked up aspect is the police (who lets be honest; a minority aside, are already not the most intelligent, fair or impartial people you'll meet) implementing this system of "points" for arrests and promotion being based on the who gets the most points. Suddenly, they have a very real personal incentive to put you away (but you can bet the court won't revoke the near-infallible trust it places in them) and some will be prepared to perjur themselves to earn points rather than just (as is now the case) when they have a vendetta against the defendant/genuinely believe them to be guilty and want to avoid them getting off on a technicality. |
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Yes, I reckon it's the sensible choice and you'll enjoy it performance wise more than you'd expect (if you've not ridden one)- they even had a one make race series based on the CB500! |
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Shawshank Redemption |
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Breakfast is strictly between 7:00 to 7:12, checkout is 9am, no pets guests, smoking or drinking, door locked at 9pm, only damp sheets available and half a bog roll. |
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