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offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-09-10 23:26 [#01968787]
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8 hours from now at least.

mpg1
mpg2

the above videos are probably the most accurate and
realistic viewpoint the american public had of the attacks
AS they were happening

common sense; american news agencies were pre-informed of
the attacks. therefore their viewpoint are not really real;
they are scripted. acted out.. this shit's real though.

and yeah beware the vids are very chilling, especially the
second... its chilling to see a real reaction on the screen
versus one that was acted out


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2006-09-10 23:33 [#01968788]
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0kb


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2006-09-10 23:36 [#01968790]
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there's been a lot of talk about it on the BBC world
service. I feel it's a load of shite to be getting all
excited and wanking over it. By celebrating it you are
adding to their impact. Most terrorism is a P.R. exercise.
It should be left for the people who died that morning to
express what they feel.



 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-09-10 23:51 [#01968791]
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nevr 4get


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2006-09-11 00:16 [#01968797]
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Well said.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-09-11 00:41 [#01968802]
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man i fucking agree with you but i think my point wasn't
clearly made. the republican party is continuing to
'celebrate' 9/11 and use it to make money for campaigning
and support the slaughter of Shi'ites, Kurds, Sunnis, and
Sufis. it's important for americans to know the difference
between the right-slanted media's viewpoint of what happened
and the peoples viewpoint. and thats as simple as not
showing it edited with george bush's voice behind it, with a
soundtrack by fucking Kenny G

hacked documentaries will be broadcast for 12 hours straight
tomorrow to tilt america into a pit of hatred against
muslims and support for a war mongering george bush and a
2008 re-taking of the house by the republican party. what
will not be shown is the real perspective (like in those
videos) of real people... what will be shown will sort of be
like the movie "Terminator" and the Terminator is Islam,
John Connor is George Bush. you see what i'm saying.. i mean
if i showed any of those videos to any of my
red-state-fanatic rednecks friends they'd probably be
nauseated. the footage belongs outside of the hands of
republican slant where it can be used to support evil


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-09-11 01:27 [#01968808]
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this dutch public broadcasting documentary yesterday said
bush was responsible, because 12 secret services around the
world knew yet his government didn't want to know and turned
a blind eye. also stockbrokers speculated on it and 100
million dollars was illegaly transferred from the wtc the
morning before the attacks. the evidence was on harddisks
recovered from the leftovers of the buildings and was
supposed to have been gone in the fire the cia or some
government organisation now covers up this information.

the documentary let scientists examine a few of the wild
accusations in loose change and discarded them as nonsense
(for instance the impossibity of the angle the plane that
went in the pentagon had to have made and wtc being blown
up).

looking at the footage the demolition expert however said
building seven must have been taken down with controlled
demolition because it came down from the bottom and it
looked controlled. it was seven hours after the wtc, they
supposedly hadn't done anything against the fire there and
it was empty. a whole list of strategic organisations whom
would be responsible for letting the attacks happen held
office there


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-09-11 01:28 [#01968809]
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american news agencies were pre-informed

o yeah? and what benifits did they have from that? i thought
news-agencies liked to have scoops


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2006-09-11 02:33 [#01968813]
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I hear that!

we have to move on...


 

offline zero-cool on 2006-09-11 02:52 [#01968816]
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omfg


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-09-11 03:04 [#01968825]
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i want to watch Fahrenheit 9/11, haven't seen it yet.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-11 03:16 [#01968829]
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OMGXLTCONSPIRACY!


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offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2006-09-11 03:20 [#01968832]
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Who gives a fuck, i dont


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2006-09-11 03:20 [#01968833]
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call in Mulder & Scully!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-11 03:21 [#01968834]
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oh yeah?!?!

well.. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK THAT YOU DON'T GIVE A FUCK! SO
THERE!


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-09-11 03:32 [#01968838]
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We should only commemorate the fallen.


 

offline chambre noire from Iceland on 2006-09-11 03:39 [#01968839]
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check this out!
9/11-press for truth


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2006-09-11 03:54 [#01968842]
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Is anyone really so stupid and believes that it is possible
to manipulate the news? That there is such a thing as
unbiased news? Lol


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2006-09-11 04:56 [#01968844]
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so why on the news would they show peoples own footage? how
many ways are there to see 2 hijacked planes crashing into 2
of the biggest buildings on earth for fucks sake?


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 04:59 [#01968847]
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meh


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2006-09-11 05:01 [#01968849]
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911 is art. But believe me, there is no deeper meaning
behind these picture


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 05:02 [#01968851]
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"shit happens"


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-11 05:50 [#01968893]
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My POV 100%.

This is the email I got from work on the matter:

Where possible, but remaining operational, individuals
are invited to hold a minutes silence in remembrance of the
events of 9/11 as follows:

The first is at 1:46 pm to mark the first plane crashing
into the first tower.

The next is at 2:03 pm to mark the second plane hitting the
second tower,

And a final silence at 2:59 to mark the second tower
falling.......


So I'm meant to set reminders for the silence before each of
those times and also end any discussion with a client that I
may be having not once, but 3 times? Why don't we add in
several other events, "time first jumper hit the floor",
"time the first fireman died", "time the first survivour was
pulled from the wreckage" etc. and have a whole afternoon of
STFU.


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-09-11 08:41 [#01968952]
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Do you hold any kind of respect for human life at all? You
think it's fine for police to shoot at unarmed, peaceful
protestors because they have an annoying voice, you think
it's fine to kill a burgalar merely to protect your own
property and you also think it's fine to drive above
100miles per hour, despite the risk to your own and others
lives because you think you'd be able to remain in control,
no matter the situation. You think it's a terrible put out
for yourself, having to pause for 3 minutes in your entire
fucking day to remember the thousands of people that were
killed and whose lives have been destroyed by the loss of
loved ones.
Have some fucking respect.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-11 08:48 [#01968953]
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I know, I'm an inhuman monster who thinks only of himself,
who has never commited a selfless act, or shown any empathy
to others' suffering.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-09-11 10:25 [#01968991]
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ashes to ashes
funk to funky


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2006-09-11 10:37 [#01968996]
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omg.mpg

jeezous that is some thick smoke

wow


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-09-11 10:46 [#01968997]
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the second one made me shiver


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-09-11 11:05 [#01969007]
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Why don't we add in several other events, "time first
jumper hit the floor", "time the first fireman died", "time
the first survivour was pulled from the wreckage" etc. and
have a whole afternoon of STFU.


Ahahaha! fav+


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2006-09-11 11:10 [#01969009]
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surely the seperate minutes of silence highlight how tragic
this event was?

man your job must be fucking sick to moan about missing 3
mins of it. are you a porn star or something?


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-09-11 11:19 [#01969012]
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there's a section of today's democracy now programme
focusing on the 9/11 conspiracy theories vs the
myth-debunkings..

here

will probably be worth the watch. gonna watch it now, in
fact.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-11 11:19 [#01969013]
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Sounds like my kinda guy.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 11:19 [#01969014]
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That's like saying terrorism is good. That heroin really
isn't doing you much good is it?

No "minute silence" or anything happened here. It was weird.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-11 11:24 [#01969019]
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This is Salman Rushdie on the evening of the attacks.
Everybody else is flipping out, but he's just chillaxing
like:

"Same shit babes, welcome to my world."


Attached picture

 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-09-11 11:26 [#01969021]
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I keep meaning to buy a copy of The Satanic Verses ever
since I saw him reading an excerpt from it on PBS. It's
really good, interesting writing. But I don't want to get
all martyred if I'm seen with it on my way home. :-(


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-11 11:33 [#01969027]
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He pissed a lot of people off as well by saying that he was
a secular, atheist Muslim is the same way as you have
secular, intellectual Jews. Verses is good, kinda in the
same vein as The Unbearable Lightness of Being or Gravity's
Rainbow, meta-fiction kinda stuff.


 

offline Mr Brazil from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-11 11:44 [#01969040]
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Hahahahahaha...such wit, you.

By the way, someone needs to fly a couple of planes through
this thread to bring it down and every other similar thread
on this site. I'm so tired of all this 9/11 rememberance
stuff. All the lame conspiracy shit that it brings out, all
the self loathing Americans. Just let it go, let it fade
away into the history books and in the minds of those it
directly affected.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-09-11 11:47 [#01969045]
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I still haven't finished Gravity's Rainbow. I managed to
make it to the part where Slothrop gets to the underground
rocket facility and can't get any reading momentum going
from there.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 12:01 [#01969059]
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Did anybody read how one of their interrogation techniques
was to force them to listen to the music of eminem
(serious)?


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-09-11 12:09 [#01969071]
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this day is not about showing coolness. or even your
coolness if it existed.

real human beings died because of that fucker Bush's
administration.

and their relatives are suffering.

i can't imagine what i'd do to get Bush's head if my
relatives died there and then.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-09-11 12:11 [#01969075]
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it is very easy for people who do not live in the states ,
it seems, to say "just forget about it and move on".


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-09-11 12:11 [#01969076]
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precisely



 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2006-09-11 12:13 [#01969077]
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the peace on planet is possible,thanks to events like this.
so please not more videos of the fucking planes*



 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 12:17 [#01969082]
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fucking snakes?


 

offline staz on 2006-09-11 12:20 [#01969084]
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y'know, human beings are sorta flawed.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 12:33 [#01969090]
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extremely. They are too intelligent, meaning that any
species with the intelligence to purposely torture others
should be erased:

In a trial by ordeal called "dunking" or "ducking," supposed
witches were immersed into a vat of water or pond, and taken
out after some time, when the victim was given the
opportunity to confess. If she confessed, she was killed; if
she did not confess, she was submerged again. This process
was usually repeated until the victim either drowned or
submitted herself to execution in another way (hanging or,
rarely, burning).


 

offline Rostasky from United States on 2006-09-11 12:38 [#01969091]
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I hate that 9/11 is more aligned with anger and hatred than
sadness in the US.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-11 12:56 [#01969108]
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Huh? If more people were like Salman, then you wouldn't have
religious nutcases on both sides trying to kill each other
over folk stories from thousands of years ago.
That would be cool.


 

offline Mr Brazil from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-11 16:46 [#01969320]
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Are you alleging that I'm not an American, a foreigner? I
say move on because I am an American that is tired of this
tragedy conjuring up foreigners and their spiteful jealousy
of our country. "Our"...I hesitate to even apply this term
of possession to you for America seeing how you so quickly
align your reasoning with that of obara, "i can't imagine
what i'd do to get Bush's head if my relatives died there
and then." To get Bush's head? Is that what you want,
cygnus? Bush's head? I'd rather think you were just another
self loathing American leftist dumbass if I wasn't so sure
that your mind didn't possess the faculties for more than
the most juvenile of thoughts.

obara - How is this the Bush administration's fault--No,
forget an answer. Under that nice-guy sheen is just another
American hating Euro, fucking insignificant pollock from an
equally insignificant country.

And I can fucking care less about any figurative meaning
about what you said. You're an ass and are about the last
person to offer any relevent, valid opinions on this
subject.

swears - You're a funny, witty guy. Keep it up. The English
are always cool like that I suppose.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-11 16:51 [#01969321]
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B)


 


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