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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-03-10 15:19 [#00119739]
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Is only my opinion that since ray of light Madonna tries to imitate Bjork?But not only Bjork...music video remembers windowlicker video and the songs madonna produces today could come from underworld,orbital,daft punk...why can't she do something without imitating other artists work? I mean it's not the problem because i think that the music she does in this way is miles better than the one she wrote at the beginning of her career. the problem is the she makes money as she wants, while other people she imitates are bound to be less famous than she is! that's not right....what do you think?
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2002-03-10 15:21 [#00119740]
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what was that song madonna and bjork did together? it was cool
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-03-10 15:24 [#00119741]
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the song was bedtime stories (1994). madonna wanted bjork to sing on her song but she refused and she just wrote the words...I listened to it but is quite normal as everything madonna can do
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-10 15:34 [#00119745]
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I thought the way richard d. james stood up to her was very cool. Her do stuff on HIS record.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-03-10 15:47 [#00119749]
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Haha Madonna wants to be trendy but she can't come up with anything herself, she's a parasite
Bjork on the other hand always comes up with loads of ideas by herself and cooperates with people who she really likes. Also people who are less famous or trendy(obscure choirs, Matmos).
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 15:59 [#00119759]
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Bjork is like the underground Madonna... although she isn't that underground, and she is much better... ummm, you get my point anyways... I hope... :)
although, I have to admit, I have liked some Madonna in my time... What it Feels like for a Girl is an awesome song, and some other ones... some of her songs are what I'd call good pop songs...
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whitehead
from Nicaragua on 2002-03-10 16:00 [#00119760]
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It must be absolutely impossible to imitate bjork... Her singing style is so unique, it's just like trying to imitate the psychedelic singing of serj tankian (system of a down) or Jonathan Davis (Korn)... Their voices are the trademarks of the bands they are in... Impossible to re-create that.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 16:03 [#00119767]
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yeah, and like the voice of Richard D. James... who else can put the emotion into Milkman that he does? :)
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whitehead
from Nicaragua on 2002-03-10 16:04 [#00119768]
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How 'bout that funny little man song? There was a shitload of emotion in that one... really brought me back to my childhood, when everybody was picking on me
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 16:07 [#00119775]
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Come to Daddy is a pretty angry sounding song to... but RDJ's emotion is in the music... the melodies he writes can break your heart in two if he chooses to do so... that's the brilliance of RDJ I think...
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whitehead
from Nicaragua on 2002-03-10 16:08 [#00119778]
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i'm not sure... sometimes he makes it seem like he's only pressing some buttons, and it just turns out that way...
or he's damn good at fooling me :)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 16:10 [#00119784]
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yeah, maybe it's just fluke... well, in that case, he's been pretty flukey...
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whitehead
from Nicaragua on 2002-03-10 16:11 [#00119785]
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and being pretty flukey is kinda the same as being 'talented' me thinks
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 16:13 [#00119788]
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yup yup, there you have it... :)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 16:15 [#00119790]
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the answer to the big question... "What is talent?" Well, talent is the ability to be consistently flukey!!! :)
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whitehead
from Nicaragua on 2002-03-10 16:20 [#00119801]
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we are making some great headway in the science department dontcha think?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 16:22 [#00119802]
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yes yes man... we should write a thesis of some kind on this and get our Ph.D's... :)
Dr. Whitehead and Dr. Funkmaster sounds nice don't you think? :)
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whitehead
from Nicaragua on 2002-03-10 16:23 [#00119803]
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Nah, i prefer Dr. Head and Dr. Master
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whitehead
from Nicaragua on 2002-03-10 16:25 [#00119806]
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"... and this concludes out thesis on talent... it's just being flukey a lot of times in a row, enough times to convince people you are actually capable of doing something good"
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 16:25 [#00119807]
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ok then, that's fine...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 16:26 [#00119810]
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ok now, write our names on it and send it into some university... we'll be doctors in no time!!!!!
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whitehead
from Nicaragua on 2002-03-10 16:26 [#00119811]
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Man! That was my 300th post, and while make this memorable 300th post, i was spewing some great scientific knowhow!
What else could i possible wish for?
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whitehead
from Nicaragua on 2002-03-10 16:27 [#00119814]
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(a ph.D probably)
GOOD IDEA! Know any good universities that would support this thesis?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 16:28 [#00119815]
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ummm, I'm sure MUN here in Newfoundland would... Newfoundland is a bit of a looney place, so they'll accept anything... :)
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whitehead
from Nicaragua on 2002-03-10 16:30 [#00119817]
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Well send it there then... can't think of any place here in the Netherlands that would take such a theory seriously...
'xcept maybe amsterdam's university
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-10 16:40 [#00119823]
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Bjork is WAY better than madonna IMO.. they're not even in the same class
madonna just annoys me..bjork is pretty cool she is actually original, while madonna has done nothing for herself
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-03-10 16:47 [#00119824]
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same as above
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-03-10 16:51 [#00119826]
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Bjork>Madonna.
Have you ever read the interview where RDJ explains his reasons for not working with Bjork or Madonna despite their requests?
Bjork: "Is like a candy in a babystore, she sees something new and shiny and says 'ooh, ooh, I want that"
Madonna: "Is more 'He is young and popular, I can use him to make me young again and further my carreer'"
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-03-10 16:52 [#00119827]
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(loosely paraphrased)
anyway it was hilarious.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 16:57 [#00119831]
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Bjork is much better then Madonna... but Madonna is HOT!!!!!!!!
heh, just kidding... :)
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-03-10 16:58 [#00119833]
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Funkmaster: have you ever seen Madonna WITHOUT make-up? you don't want to....
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-10 17:01 [#00119836]
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you're right, I don't... :)
she looks old and ugly now... she didn't even look that great when she was young... her breasts were alright, especially in that Material Girl video, but other then those, she was ugly then as well... :)
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-10 17:07 [#00119847]
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ya when she was younger she looked quite nice... now she looks like some old desperate prostitute
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2002-03-10 17:25 [#00119861]
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RDJ is a vicious joker alot worse than that smilex gas mfer
i kant help it i luv old poppy Madonna and Cindy Lauper and that shit maybe i;m gay
but yes Björk is the good stuphe Madonna has acted but.... 'Dancer in the Dark'? holy shit wanna cry tonite anyone?
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whitehead
from Nicaragua on 2002-03-10 17:51 [#00119892]
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i liked the bit in which Richard wanted madonna to squeel like a pig
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-03-10 17:55 [#00119901]
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I really like Bjork and Madonna's music (Mostly Madonnas more recent stuff not the older stuff) but when it comes to acting Bjork wins hands down (IMO). DitD is amazing, her performance very moving.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-03-10 18:05 [#00119921]
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Björk (even tho it's hypocritical for me to choose when i complained about competition earlier :þ)
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-03-10 18:07 [#00119925]
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the problem is complex.... the imitators being more appreciated than the originals...Madonna 's ray of light won a grammy, and also radiohead Kid a, a good record of course but too similar to all the warp stuff, won too. but people like Bjork or Aphex who try to put out new music every time...?for them there is no space....even if I'm happy that aphex didn't win the brit? I could'nt see him receiving that prize
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-03-10 19:36 [#00120077]
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-madonna's been imimitating bjork ever since she asked her to write her whole ALBUM bedtime stories, not just the title track (which, as someone has already pointed out, madonna also wanted bjork to sing on). great song, btw. i'd kill to hear bjork sing it, but madonna does a good job imitating bjork's style without having a voice anywhere near as interesting as hers. it helps a lot when bjork's production team (nellee hooper, spike stent, and two or three others) worked on the whole album (as well as other madonna material in ensuing years).
-rdj should work with bjork. rdj got serious for a moment in an interview and said he might work with her if he didn't have to deal with her MANAGEMENT and LABEL representatives. in other words, if he could deal with her as a musician, not a singer. he has nothing against her, it's just that she's popular enough in the industry that it doesn't make informal collaborations easy.
-i have to admit, madonna's ray of light era is pretty damn good.
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whitehead
from Nicaragua on 2002-03-10 19:37 [#00120081]
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radiohead already has a huge fanbase of people that buy there records... most people haven't ever heard of warp, and their artists... having someone know your name helps alot, in winning awards... espescially artistically correct awards
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