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Your thoughts on this? To me, it makes absolutely no sense. It looks like something spear-headed by a woman who, through her own tragic circumstances, has lost sight of all logic and rationale.. Surely "violent porn" is the one thing that would serve to placate and pacify the violent tendencies in people who have a fetish for this sort of thing? And, since it's performed by consenting adults (as opposed to child porn, for which the same argument is made by paedophiles as i just made in the last paragraph), nobody is really getting emotionally hurt.. So where does the benefit in this lie? Does this kind of stuff really cultivate violent urges? Should it be banned? What's to say that people who have a fetish for this stuff don't think there's anything wrong with it, and won't seek psychological help to "cure" their "affliction", as Mrs. Longhurst would obviously want? Who's to say there's anything wrong with it in the first place? |
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Women shouldn't be so temptingly chokeable. |
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just another step on the slippery slope to fascism. "first they came for the dangerous hackers, but i wasn't one of them, so i did nothing. then they came for immoral pornographers, but i wasn't one of them either, so i did nothing. then they came for the anti-government bloggers, but i didn't have a blog, so i did nothing. then one day they came for me, and there was no one left to help." |
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hmm, its where to draw the line really. i don't really agree with censorship, and all the violent porn or whatever is like you say, peformed by consenting adults, and if it wasn't it would be criminal behaviour anyway. its all just fantasy.. its the same argument for any kind of extreme media. look at video games, look at films, they've both been scapegoated several times over, over this kind of thing. vunerable people will always exist. wherever you draw a line or censorship, there is always going to be someone on the wrong side of it. |
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today i saw the first of the 'dark side of porn' channel4 documentary series http://imdb.com/title/tt0462483/ this girl saying that 'her ass would eventually fall out' made me wonder what could be done against porn getting too violent and people getting physically hurt. im not happy with people like max hardcore being able to do what they want. a banning of this sort of porn, 'gonzo', is an option. an interesting point btw was made by this doctor that keeps the industry from getting too much aids. she thought the soldiers at abu graib certainly must have been inspired by those gonzo videos |
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non sense,like you say..is a part of the show people can choose what they want and what they dont want.stop |
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Surely "violent porn" is the one thing that would serve to placate and pacify the violent tendencies in people who have a fetish for this sort of thing? i think the opposite is more likely to be the case, i think that watching violent porn over and over again would desensitize you to it eventually, you'd need something more after some time. |
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by that reasoning, every time a clinically insane person does something while being obsessed with something, it should be banned. "John Johnson (34), the psychopathic killer who also collected stamps was convicted today on thirteen accounts of murder." "BAN STAMPS!" |
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"Surely "violent porn" is the one thing that would serve to placate and pacify the violent tendencies in people who have a fetish for this sort of thing?" nah, there has never been any scientific proof that 'catharsis' actually works - or at least there wasn't when I briefly studied psychology about 8 years ago. that said, it's silly to blame violent porn for what some psychotic man does. if there were many instances of men strangling women after watching such material, maybe then you'd have a point. that said part 2, the spit-covered niche that Max Hardcore and others like him inhabit makes me feel really uncomfortable. |
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well, not really, he didn't...stamp somebody to death or anything. |
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I wish the UK would ban people from making topics based on yesterdays BBC News. |
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the server this board runs on isn't in the UK, though. bummer. |
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or is it all about where the site is registered? |
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the point is him being clinically insane, which I don't believe most people who look at porn, neither violent nor normal, are. |
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it's an intrusive law, i think we can agree on that, but stamps are pretty much leagues away from pornos |
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glad we got that cleared up. |
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WAIT! they both involve stickiness...! |
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and you lick them! |
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no, they aren't. say this insane man claimed he was inspired by a motive on the stamp, for instance. the porn may have been the insane mans motivation, just as any other insane mans motivation could be childrens television or stamps or great classical works of poetry. |
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they should ban hentai lolitas |
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surely the fact that the film was about depicting the strangulation of women and the man then strangling a woman has something to do with it, though. now, if the stamp showed women being strangled, maybe. even then, the film would be more vivid, what with moving pictures and sound. there is some difference. |
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omg thanks you are Totally brilliant |
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i have to say, if my sister's boyfriend confided in my that he collected stamps, i might think it's kind of funny...but i think i would feel a little queasier if he told me he liked to watch women get choked while they're getting fucked.... |
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The BBC News are trying to make nuclear weapons. (That'll get the bastards banned on the internets) |
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not really, no. regardless of what a film or rather cultural object is about, anyone can claim to find inspiration to perform some sort of hideous act; some people claim the bible is about love, others kill in its name. neither stamps nor porn (unless you count the involountary stuff with abductions and drugs, etc, which is the porn that should truly be banned, but not because of what people looking at it are thinking, but rather to protect its victims) aims to hurt anyone nor to inspire anyone to hurt anyone, but if someone finds justification for certain actions in something, is the thing they claim inspired them to blame? we have this group here in norway.. it's a fairly violent group of women called "Kvinnegruppen Ottar." They are waging "war" on pornography and they have, on several occasions, physically attacked and damaged different stores and stuff 'round town. They claim to be a highly feminist organisation. Should we ban feminism? I've heard of more acts of violence as a result of "feminism" than I've heard of porn related acts (again: this does not include formerly mentioned involountary porn). |
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The women in snuff movies obviously consent to having their throat slit when I cum. |
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haha I didn't mean when I cum. I meant just after. |
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I don't know.. there are people who like to watch people being choked, and there are people who like being choked. Both of these phenomena more often than not occur within the same person, meaning he/she likes doing it, and likes having it done to them. When this is performed by them as a sexual act, it will most likely be with two consenting people who both enjoy being choked/choking while having sex, which is supposed to be stimulating (I can't stand people touching my neck, but I don't pass judgement on those who like it). If you, yourself, were into being choked while having sex for instance, or just a bit more liberated about sexuality, you'd probably not think much of it unless he said it to you in a kind of "whispering insane person" fashion. Or rather, you'd probably even laugh it away as a joke first and then maybe get a bit unsettled.. but this is not the point.. the point is that pornography is to a wide extent demonised even in todays society while it is a perfectly good and healthy addition to anyones sex life, both single people and couples, and if the pornography is, as I said, consentual, etc, I see no wrong in it nor much difference from other cultural outputs even if the odd crazy person says he was inspired by it. |
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bbc article says: It is already a crime to make or publish such images but proposed legislation will outlaw possession of images such as "material featuring violence that is, or appears to be, life-threatening or is likely to result in serious and disabling injury". just wondering, was there a big controversy when making/publishing these images was made a crime? |
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I may also add that a person who chokes and fucks girls who don't like being choked and fucked are criminals/insane, and this act is what is (and should be) banned, not, as I stressed before, their "inspiration" because inspiration is cheap and can be found anywhere. |
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that goes without saying, i think, as do your remarks regarding snuff films.. |
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yes, but I have this irrational urge to make even the most "obvious" things explicit. |
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mostly because "obvious" and "implicit" things are dangerous and leaving too much up to interpretation may lead someone to think I am telling them to kill innocent girls. |
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plus - Jocco |
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Well, I think there's enough room in the world for all the different kinds of love. <3 |
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It's probably just a law for porn where bodies are seriously damaged like in the most hardcore sadomasochism with lots of real blood and pain, not max hardcore style degrading porn that a lot of people like |
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Part of the problem is that when it is viewed as a subversive act...it can become almost like a fix. As time goes on simply viewing material of this nature is not enough and they find they have the compulsion to act on it. There have been some documentated cases of police working in paedophilia units who have developed a need for child pornography. There are now time limits an officer is allowed to work in a unit. It's an inherent human weakness and the only way to stop it is to limit people exposure to these acts. Far from placating violent tendencies it could actually cultivate them in a proportion of society. Therefore it is the responsiblilty of society at large to limit access where possible and within reason. If people want to do this shit in the privacy of their own home etc. then there isn't an issue but the sale of this material is partially aimed at thoe looking for subversion |
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scienticists should take over all goverments. |
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I've watched porn since I was 15, and I still have very vanilla tastes. I just like to see fit girls shagging. I've never felt the urge to watch anything "harder", maybe the type of girl changes, or I see a particular site that I like....I imagine it's like that for most men. |
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god |
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that's an interesting point you raised there about child porn units.. there seems to be a bit of a duality in the last paragraph, though: If people want to do this shit in the privacy of their own home etc. then there isn't an issue but the sale of this material is partially aimed at thoe looking for subversion how are those two groups different? i don't get it.. |
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Like a smack head...I don't give a fuck if a person chooses to take smack but I have a problem if they go on the street selling it to others. |
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Persnally though I think it would just be a PR exercise that can't be policed in any way, shape or form. One thing I found interesting is that the definition of "violent porn" shown in the article would not things such as simulated rape. |
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would not cover things such as" |
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simulated rape porn is funny "no! no! no! .. ... mmmh .. no .. yes! .. mmmh .. ... yes! yes! yes! mmmh! yes!" I truly believe that's what it's like in real life, so if I go out and start raping a girl she'll start to like it towards the end of the rape. |
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but then it's not rape, so I'll have to kill her or something |
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this whole case is pretty unrelated to violent porn because it's about this strangling sex thing, what's it called. though you can say that is violent it's a different kind of violence, and i imagine a small niche market. i doubt this was a case of regular violent porn gone wrong |
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reactionary nonsense |
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this is good news i've slowly become used to violent porn to an extent and i don't want to |
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I dont think porn has ever made me feel like I dont want to have sex, except maybe for 10-15 minutes. so it probably doesnt make these nutters feel like they dont need to have violent sex |
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