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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-31 05:26 [#01962712]
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had some problems lately with my ibook, where on start up it just did the grey screen with the apple and nothing more. So i did all the Disk First Aid stuff and fixed some problem it found using Disk Warrior. Now a few weeks later its happened again, no problems found or solved by First Aid or Disk Warrior.
I've backed up everything and I erased and reinstalled OSX, but someone just told me I should have reformatted instead of erased. I dont know how to do this, can anyone help, or point me to some help?
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-31 05:46 [#01962718]
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There is an option when you boot up from a set of OSX install disks. It's not obvious though, it's in an options sub menu early in the install.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-31 05:55 [#01962722]
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i'll have another look
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xf
from Australia on 2006-08-31 06:47 [#01962733]
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sure your logic board (i.e. motherboard in your pc) isn't going? this isn't uncommon.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-31 06:58 [#01962738]
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I've heard that also, but the few iBooks I've sent for repair for work lately with suspect logic boards just needed new hard drives.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-31 07:47 [#01962745]
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i dont have a clue... help me
btw I found what I wanted, it was in disk utility and the erase tab, but I had to chose an option for 'write all zeros' or something like that
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-31 08:11 [#01962753]
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How old is it? How much RAM? If, after a clean install you still get this problem it could be a dodgy disk or logic board.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-08-31 08:30 [#01962761]
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run the apple hardware test from your install disk to see if theres anything fucked up. you can do this by booting from the cd and select the hardware test thing. that is if you have that prog included on your ibook installers.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-31 08:32 [#01962764]
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2 yrs old, 512 ram... hopefully it will stay fixed. how expensive would a new disk or logic thingy cost?
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-31 08:38 [#01962768]
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new 80gb disk around £70. You'd have to send it back to apple to get a new logic board at around £100-£200 depending on the model.
If it keeps fucking up, try a new disk first. They're a pain to fit though.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-31 08:41 [#01962772]
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i didnt see that test, i think i did every thing on the install disk. although i didnt try the 2nd disk, dunno...
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-31 08:47 [#01962782]
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thats not a bad price... who does it?
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-08-31 08:54 [#01962792]
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ohshit sorry, you need to restart and hold down the Alt key, that will take you to the select startupdisk thing. I havent had my dinner yet so my head's a bit slow
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xf
from Australia on 2006-08-31 08:58 [#01962797]
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if it's a ~2 year old g4 ibook, they're especially prone to the logic boards going bung.
that said, it definitely could be the hard drive too! this sort of stuff can be fun to work out!
any symptoms when the thing doesn't boot up properly; freezing at all, any data problems, etc?
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-31 12:16 [#01962859]
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Ive had almost no problems until this. When it didnt start up it went to the grey screen and then did nothing. Its only frozen about 5-10 times in two years, and that was explained by some funny peripherals every time i think.
the only other problem Ive ever had with this iBook is that if I fold the screen too forcefully it goes almost completely dark, but Im sure thats unrelated.
the thing is i'll be back at university in about a month, so if I have to send it off it would be ideal to do it now while I dont really need it
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-31 13:37 [#01962924]
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Have you run disk utility, to see if the computer can recognise what is failing (if anything)? Click on first aid, then verify disk to see what it comes back with.
If it says that there are problems, you need to boot from your install disk, then run system profiler from the utilities option there. 9/10 it will sort your problem.
I also recommend downloading either Tweak Freak or Macjanitor from versiontracker.com if you haven't done so already. They are great pieces of free software that keep your computer nice and sparkly.
Let me know how you get on, I am a little bit of a Mac-Daddy (but not in the Kriss Kross sense).
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-08-31 13:38 [#01962928]
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this is how it starts man
take my advice - ditch Apple!
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-31 13:40 [#01962930]
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Silly boy.
I have never had a major problem with Apple in the 6 or 7 years that I've been using them.
Are you the dude that had major problems with his powerbook??
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-08-31 13:42 [#01962932]
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no i'm the dude who had major problems with four PowerBooks
:)
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-31 13:43 [#01962935]
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Ah, no wonder you aren't championing them......
:B
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-08-31 13:50 [#01962938]
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i used to be quite a Mac zealot, and i honestly hadn't had a problem with Apple until having one of the more recent machines.
i'm sure you know that already though from my lengthy thread.
at the end of the day, when i pay over £2,500 for a laptop i expect the first one to work perfectly. if that's defective i DEMAND the replacement to work as it should.
i think you could say it was a sign from god when the fourth machine had exactly the same problem
i do miss working with Apple machines...it's just a shame that they couldn't have their quality controlled
what rig are you running btw :D
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-31 16:46 [#01963075]
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I'm still on my 12" G4 Powerbook.
It's getting a bit long in the tooth now, with its 867mhz processor, but with it being a Powerbook it still runs most things more than adequately.
The "o" button sometimes doesn't work though, but that's it really :)
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-08-31 16:50 [#01963079]
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the first modern Mac that i owned was a 2003 G3 iBook 900MHz (the last of the G3 iBooks) which had a 12" screen. i then went from that to the 17" G4 PowerBooks, and as much as i loved the huge screen, i did miss the portability of the ibook
when i actually saw the 12" G4 PowerBooks i was really impressed with how compact they are :)
your G4 PowerBook shits all over the 900MHz G3 iBook though :)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-08-31 18:07 [#01963116]
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uncrashable
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awesome_wells
from Greenland on 2006-08-31 18:08 [#01963118]
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i did something similar once but have no qualifications whatsoever in the subject
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-08-31 18:29 [#01963122]
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i did something once
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-31 18:47 [#01963127]
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disk first aid didnt find any problems. Ive wiped the whole thing clean and started again, so I guess if it goes wrong again it must be a hardware problem. I'll get one of those apps and hope everything is fine, thanks for the tips. I'm not likely to give up macs any time soon
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-31 19:54 [#01963154]
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Good boy.
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