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I need to buy a new soundcard. I just re-installed windows xp, and now it wont recognize my old on-board soundcard!!! I dont know what to do, but i've been meaning to buy a new one, since i make music and all that, so this would be a good time to do that. So people , can you reccomend me a soundcard that can do the following: 1: It should be very simple. I dont need a lot of channels and all that, i only need one slot for a microphone to record vocals and the occasional sound/sample (and well, out so i can hear the stuff) 2: It should have a breakout box 3: It should be very very cheap (i'm a student) my vocals are distorted anyway, and i make lo-fiish music, so it doesnt have to be top notch high quality. Its simply to make it easier for me to record vocals, as i feel they are now an essential part of my music. Other things you might want to know: I'm a dedicated fruityloops user. I've tried both logic and cubase, but its just my eternal love. Fruityloops and cooledit is my main music making software. I hope someone can help me!!! Thank you |
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i recommend the emo0404.. it doesn't have a breakout box, more of a breakout cable.. but it's really the best value for the money. |
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emu0404.. not emo.. heh |
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Especially for EMO music... heh. Thanks, ill try and do a search for it. |
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It's not even that expensive actually. And the thing with the cables would work fine. |
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I'd really love to hear what everyone else thinks about this, and what they use/how content they are with it |
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Also, any thoughts about a decent microphone for cheap would be excellent! |
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e-mu 1820! it's wonderful! tons of more ins and outs than any other card in that class. it can also record sound in way way higher quality than most other cards. breakoutbox included. the card itself is also pci, so there's no latency.. or at least almost no latency. 1ms maybe. |
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m-audio? ever look at their stuff... it sounds pretty decent and i think they were bought out by pro-tools or something like that if i remember correctly. |
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It was a driver problem wasn't it. God damn drivers. |
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M-audio... thats like suggesting behringer to someone who wants something that will last more than a month. Take the emu route. |
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It was a damn driver problem!!! |
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Emu 404 seems cool and affordable, but i read that it has no "Mic in".... is this true? Thats fucked. And also, the "out" channels are split or something? You CAN use a regular head-set right? |
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get the 1820! I'll count the ins/outs it's got 2 mic/line ins (they are xlr with a jack hole in the middle, so you can use both. the xlrs have phantom power). these are up front and have serparate volume controls. there's also a setting in the patchmix utility where you can set them to have different "main" volumes if the source you're recording is very loud, etc. 2 sets of 1x midi in 1x midi out. one up front, and another in the back. you can thus have two different midi chains at the same time. 1x spdif optical out up front on the breakoutbox and 2x coax spdifs on the pci card (1 in, 1 out). 2x adat optical (1 in, 1 out) on the pci card 1x firewire connector on the pci card 6x mono jack inputs (paired, so it's basically three stereo ins) on the back of the breakoutbox 6x mono jack outputs (same deal as the ins.. paired) on the back of the breakoutbox + an extra pair for monitors 4x mini jack stereo outs on the back of the breakoutbox. these correspond to the pairs of large jack outputs. a phono input (red + white) with a turntable ground cable thingie next to it. 1x large stereo jack headphone out with its own volume control up front on the breakoutbox if you want other effects than the built-in ones in the box (which actually are quite good), effect chains can be created by designating an output and input where you connect your external effects in chains. e-mu should give me a job in their marketing division. |
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It´s pretty expensive man..... |
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But the info was helpfull nonetheless |
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And reading about it makes me drool. Damn you! |
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it's not expensive for what you get, but oh well.. |
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I'm pretty stupid with this.... can i use the 0404 for recording vocals with a mic? It only says "2 analogue in/out and 2 digital in/out" Not anything with "mic" |
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it also records in 44,1k, 48k, 96k and 192k at 24bits. the only problem is that above 192k, you'll have to disable some of the ins and outs.. probably because it reqiures more processing power, but it's easily done with the patchmix profiles.. if you want to have all ins/outs available at 192k, for instance, all it requires is that you have a few different profiles that are so that when added up everything is active, and you can just switch between them depending on which ins/outs you need. |
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depends on your mic. if it's an xlr connector, you can't, but if it's a jack you can. it also doesn't seem to have phantom power, so your mic will have to be battery powered. |
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my 410 is fucking fantastastick. but i have a behringer mixer :( |
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I want to buy a new mic as well, so if i'm aware that it has to be a jack, that will be OK. Drunken Mastah, you have been so helpful. Thank you so much. Right now i'm convinced i need an E-mu card at least. It will probably buy the 0404 i think. From what i can read, its probably the card where you get most for your money. |
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yeah, it'll have to be jack and battery powered. you're welcome! |
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So, the next logical question: A good battery powered mic with a jack stick!!! |
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I have really only tried one battery powered mic with a jack.. the sony ecm ms907. It's not a great mic, unless you account for the relative price and size of it plus the fact that battery powered mics really normally aren't very good. it's got good sensitivity and fairly natural sound for what you pay. The option to have it record in either 90 degrees or 180 degrees angle is also quite handy depending on whether you want much or little of the ambience and reverb in the room you're singing in or if you're recording instrumets or voices. I can do a little test recording for you if you'd like... |
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It would work with the 0404? Do i need a mixer as well? |
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AND i've been doing some thinking.... what Mic would you reccomend if i *gasp* decided to buy the 1820? |
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BTW my computer is only a intel 2.8 ghz with 512 ram |
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Upgrade your ram if your serious about using the computer for music. Especially if you are going to be doing recording. And if you don't have one, get a second hard drive for recording to and backups. Make sure that everything that gets recorded to is on a separate drive from all your program files and vst's and samples that are being streamed. This way you can avoid latency, or stuttering, or all those other fun things that make you hit your head against your desk. Don't go cheap when you are buying music gear. If you only have $150 for a mixer, then wait untill you have $600 saved up and buy something better. Its ok to go "affordable", but only choose companies like behringer if you need something to fill a gap immediately. Make sure your setup is condusive to itself (by that I mean, don't buy a really expensive audio interface with lots of I/O & nice DA converters and then just run it through one stereo channel from a cheap yamaha mixer, or on the other hand don't buy a brilliant mixer with 16 channels if you are only going to be monitoring two sources). |
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You know, I have one of those sony mics. They sound relatively decent, although they have a tenancy to brighten the high end a bit too much. |
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The thing with those sony mics, is they are best suited to recording to a minidisc player. If you are going to buy something to use in your room, recording your voice or instruments or anything, buy something more suited to that kind of recording. I can't give you any suggestions for the microphone though, seeing as I don't do much accoustic recording myself. |
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I was thinking about that. Upgrading my ram seems like a good idea. I'm really in a tight spot financially, whatever money i use for equipment is money i dont have to spend on food. For backup, i've only ever just put my most valued files on a cdrom, but the hard drive thing might seem like a good idea as well. Good advice about a red thread in the equipment. I guess a sound setup is not better than its weakest link´. |
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I'm kind of in a tight spot too. But I kind of see it a different way. Whatever money I use on food is money I don't have to spend on equipment. I don't want to be the devils advocate or anything, but have you looked into starting up a line of credit or get a credit card? I wouldn't have been able to get most of my stuff without a credit card. |
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it should work with the 0404, yes. it's got a mini jack connector, so you'd need a stereo large jack, but other than that it'd work perfectly. if you buy the 1820.. well, I haven't bought any mics in a long time, so your best bet is to set yourself some upper limit and then go to the store and say "what's the best mic these money can get me?" Shure has some decent low-priced ones.. we've used a.. tcm or some other combination of those three letters. It's one of those membrane thingies that stand in an upright position. It was a bit expensive, but well worth it. Røde are also supposed to be good, but expensive. I don't know if processing power is an issue.. most of the built-in effects in the 1820 are run on the breakoutbox or in the pci card or something, so they don't eat much processing power. You also meet the minimum system requirements, so everything should be fine, but I agree that you should get some more ram. |
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You guys have been so helpful. You deserve a shoutout when i'm up there receiving my grammy |
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BTW, i'm sure the store could help me, but prices in music shops in Denmark are completely insane, like +100% of what you can find on the internet. I was planning on using this website: |
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yeah, but even if you're buying on line, the store people can help you.. just don't tell them you're buying online, but get a list of reasonably priced mics and then go to the store and talk to them, ask them about the different mics and which one is better, etc.. make sure you're talking to someone who actually knows stuff first, though... |
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you should also remember to ask them if they can't give you a discount of some sort if you buy a mic and a soundcard at the same time... at least up here they're always ready for stuff like that... |
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It's true. Ill just give them the "ill think about it" speech |
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Any suggestions for a good Powerbook compatable soundcard with midi in? £100-£150? |
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I wish i could help. Since i started this thread, i guess you can tell i'm no expert |
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