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offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-27 22:36 [#01960742]
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Since this is a videogame messageboard, I just wanted to
say that this game sucks even though it still goes for 60
bucks and seems to be in demand. This game is for the
snackybear system 2000. My vagina balls hurt.


 

offline darkpromenade from Australia on 2006-08-27 22:39 [#01960743]
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yes

or

no


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-27 22:40 [#01960746]
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I choose or.


 

offline optimus prime on 2006-08-27 22:41 [#01960747]
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try smearing peanut butter on them.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-27 22:45 [#01960748]
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Thanks for the eag ae. My pet turtle will lick off this
sauerkraut which isn't working.

SNAPPY!


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2006-08-27 22:51 [#01960750]
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sorry sir but you are incorrect.

this game does not suck.

in fact, it rules.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-27 23:01 [#01960754]
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It might be a good basis for a game if it wasn't
needlessly getting in its own way by being 3d, and if more
intricate game rules/elements were added. Or maybe I could
enjoy it if my vagina balls didn't hurt.

Give the finger
to rock n roll singer
as he's dancing upon your paycheck
the sales climb high
through the garbage pale sky
like a giant dildo crushing the sun


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2006-08-28 00:28 [#01960783]
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It's simple, but addictive. More damaging to it, though, is
the fact that it's SHORT. This is not a good thing for any
puzzle game. It's not the greatest puzzle game ever, but
those who've played it may consider themselves lucky.


 

offline DeLtoiD from Ontario on 2006-08-28 00:33 [#01960785]
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< crimson room


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 00:50 [#01960790]
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so called 'puzzle games' generally rule because they don't
limit themselves by putting on a layer of
characters/storyline/etc but just rely on geometric
shapes/behavior/etc.
My favorite puzzle game for awhile has been 'super puzzle
fighter 2 turbo' for ps1 (on a side note I have to admit the
characters make it more fun)

the only puzzle bobble type game for ps1 I played was
boring/lame.

tetris is good, but shouldn't be hailed as something that
can't be easily topped.

Everyone says Lumines or something is good but I haven't
played it.

'roll away' for ps1 is very good and long, way the hell
better than intelligent qube I think.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-08-28 00:55 [#01960794]
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how about portal?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 01:00 [#01960796]
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I can't figure out how to install fash player in the time of
my attention span to do so.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-08-28 01:26 [#01960798]
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how about the movie hypercube?
i recently tried to imagine a fourth dimension going over
the specifics of a hypercube (tesseract), in half
sleepy state i could almost do it. the easiest way is just
to imagine a point and draw in three different directions
and then imagine you draw into a fourth

there's a big thread on imdb about living in a four
dimensional invironment, however i think the people in the
movie just walk around in the 8 3d cubes that are the
'sides' of a hypercube

this is the thread:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0285492/board/nest/9860458



 

offline big from lsg on 2006-08-28 01:27 [#01960799]
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and this is a cool post in it, from some book:
Ok. Inhabitants of "flatland" would have trouble imagining a
cube. If you told them it was bounded by six squares, twelve
line segments and eight points, they would say there is no
such figure, and besides, a square can't bound anything,
since it fills 2D space. If you said you generated a cube by
moving a square in a perpendicular direction, they would
tell you there is no such direction. You could show them an
unfolded cube (image shown below), and tell them that these
six squares can be folded up into a cube, with each square
rotating about a line segment it borders on.
http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig
1.gif
They would say that there is no way to rotate about a line
segment. You could show them projections of a cube, both
without perspective (image shown below) and with it (the 2nd
and 3rd images shown below).
http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig
2.gif
http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig
3a.gif
http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig
3b.gif
These last two might confuse them, and lead them to ask why
the one square is sometimes inside the other and sometimes
isn't. You would have to tell them that the one square is
never inside the other, because this is only a projection.
You would probably also have to remind them that all the
oddly shaped quadrilaterals in the pictures were in fact
true squares, with right angles and equal sides. The
Flatlanders would probably be confused by this.

Now what if hyperbeings came to us to tell us about the
hypercube? If they told us it was bounded by eight cubes,
twenty-four squares, thirty-two line segments and sixteen
points, we would say there is no such figure, and besides, a
cube can't bound anything, since it fills 3D space. If they
said you generated a hypercube by moving a cube in a
perpendicular direction, they would tell you there is no
such direction. They could show us an unfolded hypercube
(image shown below), and te


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-08-28 01:27 [#01960800]
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Now what if hyperbeings came to us to tell us about the
hypercube? If they told us it was bounded by eight cubes,
twenty-four squares, thirty-two line segments and sixteen
points, we would say there is no such figure, and besides, a
cube can't bound anything, since it fills 3D space. If they
said you generated a hypercube by moving a cube in a
perpendicular direction, they would tell you there is no
such direction. They could show us an unfolded hypercube
(image shown below), and tell us that these eight cubes can
be folded up into a cube, with each cube rotating about a
square it borders on.
http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig
4.gif
We would say that there is no way to rotate about a square.
They could show us projections of a hypercube, both without
perspective (image shown below) and with it (the 2nd image
shown below).
http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig
5.gif
http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v75/level_91/4Dtess/Fig
6.gif
These last two might confuse us, and lead us to ask why the
one cube is sometimes inside the other and sometimes isn't.
They would tell us that the one cube is never inside the
other, because this is only a projection. They would
probably also have to remind us that all the oddly shaped
hexahedrons in the pictures were in fact true cubes, with
right angles and square faces.



 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 02:00 [#01960806]
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I saw a flash type thing that tried to visually explain
hyper cubes once.

I actually think there is no such thing as '2d'.. maybe in
another universe but not anywhere in our 3d universe. Ex.
draw a line on the chalkboard and say it is 2d.. well the
chalk particles have a thin layer of 3d mass. Computer
pixels are thin 3d lights, etc.

The same might be true for the supposed 4d, 5d etc.. (I
wonder if 'dimension' has a concrete widely accepted
definition, because some consider time a dimension). Though
wondering about a different universe potentially having a 8d
construction or something is interesting.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 02:06 [#01960807]
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as any dimensions higher then 3D would be in a form that is
beyond our current capacity to visualise i would think that
it would be impossible to fully define what a dimension is.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-08-28 02:16 [#01960810]
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yea 2d only exists in mathematical theory. you make a good
point, prolly 3d won't really exist in a 4d world. thefore
the people in that movie can't really be there..


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-08-28 02:22 [#01960811]
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some more excellent explanations by biggiesmartypants here:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0285492/board/nest/42948570?d=50023
077#50023077
http://imdb.com/title/tt0285492/board/nest/35766824?d=50019
517#50019517



 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 02:28 [#01960813]
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but the idea of dimensions at all might be founded on a
false base.. saying 'it was a 2d drawing' or something is
useful in everyday language just to describe the nature of
it (ie on a flat piece of paper with no illusion of 3d) to
someone who couldn't see it or something, but as stated in
previous post a 1d 'point' on a chalkboard is actually 3d
chalk particles, etc.

Stuff floating on top of water generally only move on the
surface (ignoring 3d waves) so it might be useful to think
of them as '2d' but everything that is '2d' is just a thin
layer of 3d. So maybe ONLY 3d exists, which would be a
misleading term since the term 'dimension' would then be
meaningless.

now a flash image of a 4d hypercube... is a thin layer of 3d
on a screen that is thin enough to be defined as
conventionally 2d yet is providing the illusion that it is
4d.

You could almost add something like 'color' as a dimension.
For example when trying to graph a point on a 3d cube, you
could say:

x = 12
y = -6
z = 54

but then add the 'time dimension' as an extra detailed thing
to graph more specifically.

t = 8:35 pm

then add color as an extra detailed thing to graph more
specifically

c = green

In fact maybe you could have, say, a solid red square. You
could define it as 1d because there is only 1 color. Then
make it green and red checkered and say it is 2d, then add
some blue and say it is 3d, etc.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-08-28 02:57 [#01960830]
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a point has 0 dimension, a line is 1d a plane 2d

maybe in 3d a 4d cube can be better represented


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 03:00 [#01960834]
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a 4d cube cant be represented though because it would be
impossible to see. the fourth dimension is outside of the
limit of our vision because we only see in a three
dimensional way. i.e. you cant see time.


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-08-28 03:00 [#01960835]
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but you can feel it...


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-08-28 03:03 [#01960836]
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a 3d cube can be represented on 2d of a screen or paper..
see here for several 2d representations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract



 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-28 03:10 [#01960837]
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dimensions are properties we define things as having, not
separate existances which contain the objects we have
defined as having that dimension as a property.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 03:15 [#01960839]
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so we would have to discover this fourth dimension to define
it? if that were the case we would have to be able to know
of the existance of the fourth dimension meaning that our
entire representation of every other dimension would become
null and void wouldnt it? thats would mean we would look at
things in a different way and that the fourth dimensioncould
THEN be represented, but we wouldnt see things in three
dimensions any more.

sorry if this is all rubbish this is a bit over my head!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-28 03:29 [#01960844]
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you can't discover something that doesn't exist, or rather,
if you do so, you are wrong. my point was that the
"dimensions" are something we have constructed, and although
certainly useful at times, it can't be said to be the
objective truth about anything that it exists in three or
four dimensions.

also, disregarding string theory bullshit, the fourth
dimension is defined as time; that something lasts, and in
that sense, everything that has the property of "lasting"
for even more than the smallest amount of time, is something
we can describe in four dimensions.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 03:40 [#01960848]
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thanks mastah i understand a bit better now! is this the
kind of thing you studied?


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-08-28 03:45 [#01960849]
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the fourth dimension is not time, or rather: you can call it
time but then you can call it anything you want like gravity
for instance.

the fourth dimension is theoretical and you can have as many
dimensions beyond that as you want


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-08-28 03:47 [#01960850]
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the fourth dimension i was talking about


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-28 03:48 [#01960853]
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yeah.. I study philosophy.

big: in normal physics and normal everyday life, the fourth
dimension is by standard called time. of course you can fill
in whatever you'd like, and add as many as you want to (as
long as you don't tell people it's the truth and you're just
using it as an ad hoc hypothesis to explain away certain
observational data that don't fit your normal paradigm), but
if you ask a normal person, the fourth dimension will most
likely be time.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-28 03:49 [#01960854]
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also, it isn't just the fourth dimension that is
theoretical; they all are.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-08-28 03:54 [#01960855]
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calling it time is just philosophy


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-08-28 04:43 [#01960858]
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let's call it Norbertus!


 


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