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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2006-08-24 03:38 [#01959041]
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brilliant piece
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2006-08-24 04:52 [#01959056]
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too much of a two-step vibe over it.. album is great though!
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-08-24 09:27 [#01959129]
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It's been going up and down from his myspace in slightly different versions for a while now, fucking gorgeous. Needs to see vinyl immediately but i hear the hyperdub schedule is backed up for now... (kode9 album come sept/october btw, oooh). Had a really nice beatless track called "homeless" there a while back too.
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-24 11:25 [#01959179]
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nice the eq thing is so dumb on myspace
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-24 11:28 [#01959181]
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it's not an eq.
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Archrival
on 2006-08-24 11:29 [#01959185]
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nice track! :;D
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-24 11:46 [#01959200]
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Awesome because it has a two step vibe.
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-24 12:13 [#01959224]
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tell me what it is than
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-24 12:20 [#01959230]
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does 2 step sound more like real music like burial does what 2 step should i get?
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-24 12:21 [#01959231]
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unreal being dance and idm
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-24 12:33 [#01959241]
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Hmmm....no, 2step does not sound more like instrumental, acoustic music than regular house. The drums generally sound more unnatural and cut up and the bass is low and oscillates unlike a natural bass guitar sound or whatever. MJ Cole and a couple of other people used "real" instrument sounds, but it was in a very sleek, unnatural, polished way.
Burial owes a debt to things like Dub and Massive Attack and he's bringing that more into it, so that would account for his "real" sounding tracks.
I would reccommend
DJ Luck and MC Neat: A Little Bit of Luck Double G feat Anita: Special Request Monie Love: Slice of Da Pie (El-B mix) MJ Cole: Crazy Love
Avoid anything marked "Funky House" go for the more Drum 'n' Bass/R'n'B influenced stuff.
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-24 12:37 [#01959243]
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he, ok i will check those out
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-24 12:53 [#01959251]
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Here is a really bad example of a 2step beat.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-24 14:03 [#01959280]
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This is a great interview with Burial by a fella called Blackdown who keeps up you up to date with this sort of thing.
B: I discovered EL-B and garage at the same time. I heard his Brandy remix, then “Buck n Bury” and “Passage of time” - and I hadn’t even heard “Stone Cold” yet, though I’d heard of Groove Chronicles on something else I didn’t like. Then I heard “Stone Cold” and I was just like “fuck…”
M: The name says it all.
B: It's dark. That tune’s never left my head. That tune is still going around my head from the first time I heard it. And the thing about those drums: they’re still the future. It’s not a lost art – people still don’t know how to do those drums. It’s an unknown thing. It’s like the last fucking secret left in music: how you do those drums. I’ve tried. I’ve locked myself away and tried. And the thing about garage is: the more you look at it like some tech-boy producer, the less you get it.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2006-08-24 14:13 [#01959286]
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thanx for that
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staz
on 2006-08-25 05:22 [#01959598]
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he seems a bit psycho, that guy.
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staz
on 2006-08-25 05:26 [#01959601]
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but this 'unite' track is great
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-25 05:39 [#01959607]
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Why?
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-25 06:36 [#01959632]
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argh, my ears
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-08-26 00:38 [#01959879]
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Those are not good tracks, swears. No no no.
ALSO, there's far too much 2-steppy arselicking going on at the moment, somewhere between burial hype and a backlash against the halfstep thing i suppose (you can see why, too much does have a tendency to kill dancefloors) but a lot of the 2-step from around that 2000-era is just awful, awkward, sickly-sweet cack. "A little bit of luck" is definitely best forgotten. And i wouldn't be quite so quick to dismiss "funky house" straight off, there's some sick bassline-heavy stuff being made, a loooong way from the hed kandi toss. You can hear skream and hijak moving moving into similar territory on a few bits...
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-08-26 00:40 [#01959880]
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moving moving moving moving moving
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-08-26 03:44 [#01959922]
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Sorry, dragging this off-topic really but i don't want to make a new thread, skream & hijak go bassline house,
this was making me jump around like a proper tit the other night.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-26 04:47 [#01959950]
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Like any genre some 2step was good, some was bad. I think some of the commercial stuff was ace, "Bound for Da Reload" has to probably be the weirdest number one ever, musically and I think EL-B is class, some really gritty, dirty lo-fi stuff.
Yeah, some funky house is good, Armand Van Helden was praised up until millions of shitty copyists ripped him off.
At the time I liked 2step because it was the total opposite of the hugely popular (at the time) trance shit and I was bored of breakbeats, rock influences and all that student-dance Chemicals/Prodigy sound.
I draw the line at "Sweet Like Chocolate", though.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-26 04:49 [#01959951]
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Yeah, that show's ace. He was already moving towards this sound with stuff like "Acid People" anyway.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-08-26 05:20 [#01959958]
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Oh yeah, el-b is dirt but that remix is one of his weaker bits, i think. Love his ghost stuff, and that new "riddem 1" up at his myspace is nice...oris jay and j da flex's beats are always spot on, too. I've got nowt against 2-step, just sick of everyone going all "UKG revival" off the back of one burial record. I don't know, maybe it's a good thing in part, i kind of skipped over all this the first time round (apart from one muzik magazine speed garage cover cd from 1997 that i rinsed the fuck out of) so it's nice to find all the gems from that era, i just hope it doesn't get properly "latched onto" again... well it's all Scene Bollocks anyway really. I've forgotten where i was going with this.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-26 05:27 [#01959960]
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I think it's a good thing if people are going to do something new with it, like Burial does, but if it's just gonna be loads of generic 2step tracks coming out again then fuck, no. I quite like the solo project from Junior Boy Johnny Dark, though.
But it is strange that we could have a revival of something that only petered off about six years ago.
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