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offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-08-19 17:30 [#01956801]
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this is a topic dedicated to the universe.

some keywords for things to discuss.

particles
relativity
string theory
mass
stars
matter
neutrinos
quantum mechanics
planets
xltronic and it's place in the universe


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2006-08-19 17:41 [#01956804]
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Jar Jar Binks


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-19 17:42 [#01956805]
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What if it turns out that ethics is the most important
'science' in the universe?


 

offline OK on 2006-08-19 17:53 [#01956807]
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important in what way? what does 'important' mean outside
the human's space of influence?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-19 18:43 [#01956819]
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Maybe the universe is some very exact specific definate way,
like the current complex state of a giant cellular automata
type of thing that all evolved from simple rules. Science
could be any intelligent matter, human/other animal/alien or
otherwise, trying to reveal what this definate specific
composition/behavior/etc of the universe is. I mean,
regardless of whether intelligent matter knows, the universe
IS some specific exact way regardless. So science only
matters to intelligent matter (I use 'intelligent matter' to
be very unrestrictive/ definately not just human/ possibly
machine/etc) trying to figure it out. I guess the universe
itself is indifferent to science... because it already...
knows about itself? Or it has no ability or meaning to know
about itself. Assuming ethics/ doing 'right' is about
taking courses of action that minimizes pain to all parties
involved we'd have to assume a significant portion of
intelligent matter is even capable of feeling pain/ if pain
has meaning to them. Maybe that shouldn't be assumed. Maybe
there might be different aspects to ethics than pain. This
is all pretty much buuuull shit.


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2006-08-19 19:44 [#01956835]
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when a star unfastens the celestial evening bedspread i make
a wish.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-20 02:06 [#01956924]
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from where im standing, string theory looks like total
bollox. the rest is ok


 

offline DeLtoiD from Ontario on 2006-08-20 02:18 [#01956926]
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if you need infinite mass to reach the speed of light, then
light itself must have infinite weight, however - it has no
wieght.

therefore infinity = 0


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-20 02:25 [#01956928]
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indeed


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offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-08-21 13:54 [#01957629]
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galactic bump


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-21 13:59 [#01957632]
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mas is dependant on velocity. hit the speed of light - bump!


 

offline staz on 2006-08-21 14:00 [#01957633]
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buy an arpanet cd or something


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-08-21 14:03 [#01957636]
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I think all this gravity stuff is bollocks. Things just fall
down, because there's nothing holding them up.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2006-08-21 14:29 [#01957641]
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Justice is playing at Creamfields on the 26th


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-08-21 14:33 [#01957643]
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Yeah, but the rest of the line up is mostly crap.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2006-08-21 14:37 [#01957645]
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I know 8 (


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-08-21 14:45 [#01957646]
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i do science for my job. i will attempt to answer any
questions you may have about science, as it relates to my
job.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-08-21 15:34 [#01957661]
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what is there to discuss. the universe was created by god.


 

offline sean qunt from BELFAST on 2006-08-21 17:55 [#01957708]
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whats beyond quarks, topness, botomness etc?

whys noel edmonds back on tv?


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-08-21 17:56 [#01957710]
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xltronic is at the center of the universe


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-08-21 18:00 [#01957712]
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ok ehm appearantly the earths magnetism flips over evey
200.000 years. if that happens gradually how will we deal
with that?
that means that there will be a period where north will be
west and south east depending on which way the magnetism
will flip.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-08-21 18:05 [#01957715]
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theres a 'theory' that gravity isnt a force but just that
everything is constantly getting vastly bigger, so the earth
grows and you grow and this keeps you in contact with each
other. i'll have to find where I read that and look again,
it was more to prove a point about how things could be
different than you imagine but it made sense


 

offline sean qunt from BELFAST on 2006-08-21 18:27 [#01957725]
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Artificial Life researchers working with chaos, complexity,
and evolutionary 'memetics' are finding that their own
'software' is possessed of a certain caprice or willfullness
beyond its creators' intent. As microelectronics have
reached levels of infinitesimal smallness, perhaps the
electronic forces there are closer than ever before to the
total flux of quantum action from which awareness emerges.
As the webs of the Matrix grow, might new and unexpected
forms of consciousness possibly be one of the things that
might be found in such a terra incognita



 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-08-21 20:10 [#01957742]
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there is already north and true north. how are we dealing
with that? ah ha! with science.


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-08-22 12:47 [#01958045]
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amazing!


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:03 [#01958058]
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no, it just gets weaker and weaker and then re-emerges the
other way. like the sun does every 11 years. the field dies
and starts up the other way round.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:04 [#01958059]
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quarks are fundamental. apparently. unless you believe all
this string theory crap.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-08-22 13:07 [#01958062]
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So, there's nothing smaller than a quark?
What about a sand?


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-22 13:08 [#01958064]
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Up in heaven, a bunch of scientists are playing tag, and
it's Albert Einstein's turn to be "it". Once he gets done
counting, he turns around and sees Isaac Newton just
standing there, in the middle of a box he's drawn on the
ground. So Einstein walks over and tags him, but Newton
doesn't do anything. Einstein says, "Newton, what are you
doing? I caught you." And Newton replies, "No you didn't.
I'm Newton over a square meter. You caught Pascal."

LOLL :S


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:11 [#01958067]
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hmmmm......... maybe, you never know. its not something the
CERN boys have discovered yet though.
so far, quarks + leptons + 4 carriers = everything else.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:12 [#01958068]
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haha, so sad

like the old "mars polar lander's aerobraking system failed,
but luckily it had a back-up lithobraking system"
theres only about 7 people in the whole world that find it
funny


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-22 13:34 [#01958078]
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how does that qualify as a joke?

Just seems you're showing off you know what lithobraking and
aerobraking are. Really, I googled lithobraking, found
out.... where's the joke?


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-22 13:39 [#01958081]
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how does that qualify as a joke?

Just seems you're showing off you know what lithobraking and
aerobraking are. Really, I googled lithobraking, found
out.... where's the joke?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-22 13:41 [#01958084]
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it's all, like, "thank god it's solid, zomg lol!!!!!1"


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-22 13:42 [#01958086]
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it's all, like, "thank god it's solid, zomg lol!!!!!1"


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-22 13:45 [#01958092]
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haha, a friend of mine:

yeah..it's the nerdy equivalent of like saying "L0L I
FELL BUT AT LEAST THE CONCRETE BROKE MY FALL"


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:48 [#01958095]
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well google Mars Polar Lander!
joke: because it crashed and got smashed to bits, and it
never had any lithobraking at all. but it did hit the
surface and break its speed, for sure.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-22 13:51 [#01958097]
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oh right.. so it's like saying.. "i have two pennies", and
it being funny because i don't actually have two pennies?
help me out here.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:51 [#01958099]
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ZOMFG!!!!etc.

the mission's sample return capsule landed at high speed in
the Utah desert.

Is that the same as "crashed"? :evil:

Lithobraked. ;)

Dr. Watson: "I say, Holmes, what's all this about an
American space probe using "lithobraking" to land?"

Holmes: "Sedimentary, my dear Watson..."

wow, someone else finds it funny.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:53 [#01958100]
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the aerobraking failed. true. and then it crashed into the
surface. true.
so it had a very effective "lithobraking". funny, eh?


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-22 13:57 [#01958103]
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but it didn't have lithobraking in the first place.. so it
was bound to crash and write itself off. so where's the
joke? i'm getting bloody impatient here, i want a fucking
laugh.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:59 [#01958108]
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thats it im afraid. thats us planetary geologists for you -
no one else understands us :(


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-22 14:12 [#01958114]
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I will spare you philosophy jokes


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 15:28 [#01958141]
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stfu


 


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