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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-08-19 17:30 [#01956801]
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this is a topic dedicated to the universe.
some keywords for things to discuss.
particles relativity string theory mass stars matter neutrinos quantum mechanics planets xltronic and it's place in the universe
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2006-08-19 17:41 [#01956804]
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Jar Jar Binks
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-19 17:42 [#01956805]
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What if it turns out that ethics is the most important 'science' in the universe?
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OK
on 2006-08-19 17:53 [#01956807]
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important in what way? what does 'important' mean outside the human's space of influence?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-19 18:43 [#01956819]
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Maybe the universe is some very exact specific definate way, like the current complex state of a giant cellular automata type of thing that all evolved from simple rules. Science could be any intelligent matter, human/other animal/alien or otherwise, trying to reveal what this definate specific composition/behavior/etc of the universe is. I mean, regardless of whether intelligent matter knows, the universe IS some specific exact way regardless. So science only matters to intelligent matter (I use 'intelligent matter' to be very unrestrictive/ definately not just human/ possibly machine/etc) trying to figure it out. I guess the universe itself is indifferent to science... because it already... knows about itself? Or it has no ability or meaning to know about itself. Assuming ethics/ doing 'right' is about taking courses of action that minimizes pain to all parties involved we'd have to assume a significant portion of intelligent matter is even capable of feeling pain/ if pain has meaning to them. Maybe that shouldn't be assumed. Maybe there might be different aspects to ethics than pain. This is all pretty much buuuull shit.
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2006-08-19 19:44 [#01956835]
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when a star unfastens the celestial evening bedspread i make a wish.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-20 02:06 [#01956924]
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from where im standing, string theory looks like total bollox. the rest is ok
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2006-08-20 02:18 [#01956926]
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if you need infinite mass to reach the speed of light, then light itself must have infinite weight, however - it has no wieght.
therefore infinity = 0
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-20 02:25 [#01956928]
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indeed
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-08-21 13:54 [#01957629]
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galactic bump
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-21 13:59 [#01957632]
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mas is dependant on velocity. hit the speed of light - bump!
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staz
on 2006-08-21 14:00 [#01957633]
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buy an arpanet cd or something
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-21 14:03 [#01957636]
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I think all this gravity stuff is bollocks. Things just fall down, because there's nothing holding them up.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-08-21 14:29 [#01957641]
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Justice is playing at Creamfields on the 26th
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-21 14:33 [#01957643]
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Yeah, but the rest of the line up is mostly crap.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-08-21 14:37 [#01957645]
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I know 8 (
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-08-21 14:45 [#01957646]
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i do science for my job. i will attempt to answer any questions you may have about science, as it relates to my job.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-08-21 15:34 [#01957661]
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what is there to discuss. the universe was created by god.
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sean qunt
from BELFAST on 2006-08-21 17:55 [#01957708]
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whats beyond quarks, topness, botomness etc?
whys noel edmonds back on tv?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-21 17:56 [#01957710]
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xltronic is at the center of the universe
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-08-21 18:00 [#01957712]
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ok ehm appearantly the earths magnetism flips over evey 200.000 years. if that happens gradually how will we deal with that?
that means that there will be a period where north will be west and south east depending on which way the magnetism will flip.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-21 18:05 [#01957715]
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theres a 'theory' that gravity isnt a force but just that everything is constantly getting vastly bigger, so the earth grows and you grow and this keeps you in contact with each other. i'll have to find where I read that and look again, it was more to prove a point about how things could be different than you imagine but it made sense
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sean qunt
from BELFAST on 2006-08-21 18:27 [#01957725]
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Artificial Life researchers working with chaos, complexity, and evolutionary 'memetics' are finding that their own 'software' is possessed of a certain caprice or willfullness beyond its creators' intent. As microelectronics have reached levels of infinitesimal smallness, perhaps the electronic forces there are closer than ever before to the total flux of quantum action from which awareness emerges. As the webs of the Matrix grow, might new and unexpected forms of consciousness possibly be one of the things that might be found in such a terra incognita
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-08-21 20:10 [#01957742]
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there is already north and true north. how are we dealing with that? ah ha! with science.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-08-22 12:47 [#01958045]
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amazing!
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:03 [#01958058]
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no, it just gets weaker and weaker and then re-emerges the other way. like the sun does every 11 years. the field dies and starts up the other way round.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:04 [#01958059]
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quarks are fundamental. apparently. unless you believe all this string theory crap.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-22 13:07 [#01958062]
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So, there's nothing smaller than a quark? What about a sand?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-22 13:08 [#01958064]
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Up in heaven, a bunch of scientists are playing tag, and it's Albert Einstein's turn to be "it". Once he gets done counting, he turns around and sees Isaac Newton just standing there, in the middle of a box he's drawn on the ground. So Einstein walks over and tags him, but Newton doesn't do anything. Einstein says, "Newton, what are you doing? I caught you." And Newton replies, "No you didn't. I'm Newton over a square meter. You caught Pascal."
LOLL :S
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:11 [#01958067]
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hmmmm......... maybe, you never know. its not something the CERN boys have discovered yet though.
so far, quarks + leptons + 4 carriers = everything else.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:12 [#01958068]
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haha, so sad
like the old "mars polar lander's aerobraking system failed, but luckily it had a back-up lithobraking system"
theres only about 7 people in the whole world that find it funny
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-22 13:34 [#01958078]
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how does that qualify as a joke?
Just seems you're showing off you know what lithobraking and aerobraking are. Really, I googled lithobraking, found out.... where's the joke?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-22 13:39 [#01958081]
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how does that qualify as a joke?
Just seems you're showing off you know what lithobraking and aerobraking are. Really, I googled lithobraking, found out.... where's the joke?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-22 13:41 [#01958084]
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it's all, like, "thank god it's solid, zomg lol!!!!!1"
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-22 13:42 [#01958086]
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it's all, like, "thank god it's solid, zomg lol!!!!!1"
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-22 13:45 [#01958092]
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haha, a friend of mine:
yeah..it's the nerdy equivalent of like saying "L0L I FELL BUT AT LEAST THE CONCRETE BROKE MY FALL"
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:48 [#01958095]
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well google Mars Polar Lander! joke: because it crashed and got smashed to bits, and it never had any lithobraking at all. but it did hit the surface and break its speed, for sure.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-22 13:51 [#01958097]
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oh right.. so it's like saying.. "i have two pennies", and it being funny because i don't actually have two pennies? help me out here.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:51 [#01958099]
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ZOMFG!!!!etc.
the mission's sample return capsule landed at high speed in the Utah desert.
Is that the same as "crashed"? :evil:
Lithobraked. ;)
Dr. Watson: "I say, Holmes, what's all this about an American space probe using "lithobraking" to land?"
Holmes: "Sedimentary, my dear Watson..."
wow, someone else finds it funny.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:53 [#01958100]
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the aerobraking failed. true. and then it crashed into the surface. true.
so it had a very effective "lithobraking". funny, eh?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-22 13:57 [#01958103]
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but it didn't have lithobraking in the first place.. so it was bound to crash and write itself off. so where's the joke? i'm getting bloody impatient here, i want a fucking laugh.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 13:59 [#01958108]
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thats it im afraid. thats us planetary geologists for you - no one else understands us :(
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-22 14:12 [#01958114]
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I will spare you philosophy jokes
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 15:28 [#01958141]
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stfu
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