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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2006-08-18 08:59 [#01956159]
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to serve and protect..
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-18 09:04 [#01956164]
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odd
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-08-18 09:04 [#01956166]
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Good.
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-08-18 09:05 [#01956168]
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It's a pity it was a rubber bullet. Lefty dogooder showing her nasty pale leg.
GO POLICE!
haha that was great. Bitch can't even afford more than one jacket.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-18 09:28 [#01956183]
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this makes me mighty angry
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-18 09:32 [#01956184]
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even if the protesters were protesting for their rights to kill black people?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-08-18 09:36 [#01956187]
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Lets be reasonable here; if you had had to listen to her grating voice for half an hour as those poor riot police did, wouldn't you consider shooting her?
The footage of the bloke being shot repeatedly as he was running away was good. I thought he was dancing at first. I think there's potential to make an animated .gif of it, or even "mash it up" into a full length music video.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-18 09:37 [#01956190]
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they were protesting against Totalitarianism
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-18 09:38 [#01956192]
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"Lets be reasonable here; if you had had to listen to her grating voice for half an hour as those poor riot police did, wouldn't you consider shooting her?"
you can't honestly be serious. it was a peaceful protest. the police didn't even need to be there
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-18 09:40 [#01956195]
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what an odd thing to protest against.. it's a bit vague, isn't it?
anyway, yeah, the cops were way out of line, but I find nothing about the incident to warrant anything but curiosity on my part.
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-18 09:41 [#01956197]
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a characteristic of unpeaceful protests is often they are peaceful until they get unpeaceful
it was an accident or something and nobody got hurt in a mentionable way
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-18 09:42 [#01956198]
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that's unsane, they were too nice to protest against kim jung il or something
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-08-18 09:47 [#01956200]
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Protestors always do this;
They hold up the traffic, wind up the police for hours and hours, getting themselves more and more worked up, until someone on either side loses their rag and it kicks off.
Afterwards, they then bang on about how it was largely a peaceful protest and how it was obviously an agent provoceteur (police plant) who threw the brick from their ranks at the police which allowed the police to storm in and caused it to descend into a riot.
There's a reason the police turn up at protests; they often get nasty.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-08-18 09:48 [#01956201]
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drama
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-18 09:51 [#01956203]
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Cruisin' for a bruisin',I'm talkin' no crap Pipe bomb in my trunk,got a nine in my lap I'm layin' for a sprayin',tonight there's no playin' My posse's most strapped,tonight the crew's weighin' Dust is burnin',the steering wheel's turnin' I'm out a week,I'm already earnin' Suckers crossed,tonight it's their loss Payback time,boy,life's the cost Gauges out the window,one lay cross the roof They all die if those suckers ain't bullet proof I'm rollin' death tollin',of course the car's stolen But I'm blind to what's wrong,all I want is what's golden A fool in a fight,too dumb to know right Fuckin' blue light-read'em their rights
Drama [x4]
Copped an alias bailed out in an hour or less I keep a bank for that don't know about the rest Copped another piece,hit the dark streets Rollin' once again,fuck the damn police Called up my friend JOE, a roof job pro,459 on his mind car stereos
He said the spot was sleep,he cased the joint a week 3 a.m. on the dot inside we creep Got Alpines,Fishes,JVC's, Motorola Phones,Sony Color TV's Had the hide packed up till we heard freeze Fuckin' blue lights-read'em their rights
Drama [x4]
4 in the morning,lights in my face That's the time,you know the place Cuffed in the room with the two-way glass Detects in effect cold doggin' my ass "What's your date of birth?"..."What's your real name?" I stuck to my alias,I know the game If they don't know who you are,then they don't know what you've done
"You're just makin' this harder on yourself,son" I know this shit by heart,I'm too clever "Have you ever been arrested before?" "Nope,never" Da reject all over his face You see no confession,no case Then my boy started illin',talkin' and tellin' Son of a bitch-he was a snitch
Drama [x6]
Under I went,I caught a case and half He dropped the mallet,then the judge laughed Now I'm in the penzo,chillin' like a real pro I can't move until the man says go A puppet of the big game,an ins
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-08-18 09:56 [#01956204]
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you got it,everyfucking time...
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-18 09:56 [#01956205]
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i could never get myself to protest
i was pretty sure i would be on the right side when the protests against the coming invasion in iraq were, but i still couldn't.
it's not my scene i guess.. holland has a really small show up anyway ever since the protests against the nuclears america planted here
i think it's because of the scene of anarchists and squaters who monopolized the protests in the 60s and 70s. actually they monopolized it and the people who joined in were the decent citizens (like how hooligans now join protests to start trouble)
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-18 09:57 [#01956206]
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from what i've seen the police usually make it worse. what's their purpose of being there anyway? are the protesters going to start fighting against their own people? most protests consist of 1 group of people and a large number of police. if the police weren't there then no violence would happen.
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-18 10:02 [#01956212]
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they start wrecking government property and private property like stores
they, or bad people among your assumed monolith group
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-18 10:02 [#01956214]
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and possibly private property
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-18 10:06 [#01956216]
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"they"?
if it's a peaceful protest then they're not going to start doing stuff like that are they?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-18 10:08 [#01956220]
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If you watch the video that's linked to beneath this video, you'll find that it's a protest against the trade summit of the americas.
basically it's an anti-globalisation demonstration. it's not vague in the fucking slightest.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-18 10:10 [#01956225]
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Yeah, they hold up traffic. Those cunts.
Ever hear of the anti-ep? Christ. it's not just all about the banning of raves.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-18 10:10 [#01956226]
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do you have any idea when this happened?
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-18 10:11 [#01956227]
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they=protesters
nobody can garantee it will be peaceful is all i'm saying, the organizers of the protest can't foresee what kind of people show up
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-18 10:14 [#01956229]
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how about this for some logic:
allow protesters to arrive police stay away police wait and watch if it gets nasty then move in
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-18 10:15 [#01956232]
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yesyes it wasn't very nice to shoot that lady for nothing, but it was just a rubber bullet and worse stuff happens in the world
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-18 10:18 [#01956234]
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Just a rubber bullet?
Do you know how many fucking people have died from rubber bullets in northern ireland?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-18 10:19 [#01956236]
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LAZY_TITLE
occured in 2003 apparently. that's a good starting place in wikipedia to find out more about this demonstration.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-08-18 10:20 [#01956237]
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is your dad a policeman ?
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-08-18 10:22 [#01956238]
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allow protesters to arrive police stay away police wait and watch if it gets nasty then move in
Hahahaha, logic... what do you suggest the bizzies watch with, really long fucking periscopes?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-18 10:23 [#01956240]
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you're an idiot
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-18 10:26 [#01956241]
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"mayhem in miami" video report from this democracy now report page
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2006-08-18 10:27 [#01956242]
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I am going to start an 'Everything's Fine' protest. It will be huge in Canada!
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-18 10:31 [#01956247]
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ok, i just watched the first 40 seconds, the headline is bad and the video is crappily edited: i thought it was just one bullet
i assume less peaceful protest going on in the city like that spokesman in the second video says so that's why they were on edge, but all that shooting seems wrong
i agree with ceri there that antiglobalists aren't totally guilt free of the escallations here and elsewhere, they have no respect for property. they wreck for ten of thousands of dollars while they'd better send that money to africa for whom they are supposedly protesting, but really it's an excuse for living it up
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-08-18 10:31 [#01956249]
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Hah, read your post again. Do you mean "stay away at a safe distance and not shoot anyone"? Because that sort of contradicts "the police didn't even need to be there." Sorry, i'm playing devil's advocate anyway really...
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-18 10:33 [#01956251]
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what i mean is not to send in police until they are needed. not at any distance
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-18 10:34 [#01956253]
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ok they were protesting for south america i assume
really both parties suck, antiglobalists for aforementioned reasons, bush government because they seem quite totalitarian
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-08-18 10:36 [#01956255]
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He's not talking about anti-globalists, he's talking about "protestors". You could take that to mean "anyone voicing a concern against the state". And this is the guy who's in favour of "small government" :P
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-18 10:37 [#01956256]
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a "how aboot that "EH" " demonstration!
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-08-18 10:38 [#01956257]
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And who's monitoring the protest to see if the police are "needed"?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-18 10:45 [#01956261]
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ok i can barely make head nor tail of that poorly written post, but one point to which i will respond was the one on which you agreed with Ceri.
Yes, anti-globalists aren't guilt-free when it comes to protest - a lot of them do turn violent. But one must look to the anarchist groups bent on turning them that way, the groups with an agenda and manifesto that states that peaceful protest is impotent, groups like the wombles, etc.
But ignoring the qualities and moral fibre of the anti-globalist argument, just because of a minority of troublemakers (and implanted agitators), would be totally ignorant. It's equatable to saying that "all muslims are fucking worthless terrorist cunts".
When you look at the arguments for anti-globalisation and globalisation (in its realized form, in the form in which it exists today), it's clear that the anti-globalists have the moral highground, despite the actions of a select few troublemakers.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-08-18 10:46 [#01956262]
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undercover spies of course...who don't work for the police, but a secret spy guild. These spies would use first-generation star trek communication devices
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-18 10:48 [#01956264]
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and by the way, it doesn't matter if it's just one fucking rubber bullet. it only takes one bullet to kill, and they fired it straight at her fucking forehead.
i'm sorry i'm getting heated up about this, but i can't believe they're using rubber bullets against such a peaceful protest. it's understandable in the north, at marching season, when things go fucking mental and half of Drumcree is set alight, but this is just madness.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-08-18 10:59 [#01956267]
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Protests are like Formula 1 races which you only watch in case there's a crash. You only go to a protest to see either a police horse get hit with a bit of wood with nails driven through it, or some hippy shot in the forehead.
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-18 11:16 [#01956270]
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Ceri what the fuck is wrong with you?! Did you not hear the way the cops were laughing and joking about shooting her in the head. That's fucked up. It highlights perfectly the situation of corrupt police. Have you ever watched La Haine? If you did, did you think the police were the good guys? If you've not watched it, you probably should. You might enjoy seeing the police beating the shit out of citizens with annoying voices :)
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-18 11:16 [#01956271]
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that is a stupid frivolous and pedantic question
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-18 11:19 [#01956272]
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It doesn't matter what they're protesting about, that's not the issue. The fact is, it was a completely peaceful protest and the police decided to shoot the protestors. If you've not watched the video yet, you should watch it in order to give an unbiased review.
Aengus, don't apologise for getting het up about this. It's fucked up and you have every right to feel strongly about it. It's disgusting
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2006-08-18 11:34 [#01956276]
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I thought it was kind of funny for the first few seconds when she got shot in the leg. the whole, "ohemmgee did everyone see that i got shot in the leg holy shit peaceful!" was so typical. but after that it pretty fucked up that they kept shooting at them, especially firing above the waist, because i know for a fact that one of those in the stomach or head is capable of killing a person. i can't really blame most of them, though, if i put myself in their position; they probably didn't care in the least about the protest and just wanted to end it somehow and go home.
also, i don't agree that police should stay away from protests until they become violent. if they had done that over here in Seattle at the WTO riots, things would've been a whole lot worse i think. the protesters (and i know it was probably just a few bad ones) were just breaking windows in random businesses for no apparent reason, and they probably wouldn't have stopped at that if something hadn't been done. usually, once something like that starts, it just gets worse and worse, which is why the police should be there from the beginning so that it doesn't have a chance to get any worse.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-08-18 11:51 [#01956281]
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always keep in mind the people will always outnumber the oppressors and the fascists
when the time comes that they have to use real guns with real bullets to oppress... they'll still be fucking outnumbered. of course i cant delve any further in this subject as i do not want the N S A investigating me, but i truly believe a c o u p against G W B would indeed work...
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