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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-17 03:16 [#01955520]
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oooh dear
"Consequently I shall not insist that a Christian must believe in hell."
I heartily disagree
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-08-17 03:34 [#01955524]
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i hope there is a God. ANd it would be cool if it was Jesus. Thats all I can say.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-17 04:01 [#01955547]
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My parents are practicing (my mother, at least) christians and believe neither in a heaven nor a hell.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-17 04:06 [#01955551]
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heaven and hell is an essential part to christianity though. if one picks and chooses which bits they want to believe in then they are effectively creating their own religion.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-17 04:14 [#01955552]
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things change over time. heaven and hell aren't an essential part of christianity. they're an essential part of catholicism, though.
But for the successful efforts of unbelievers in the past, I could not take so elastic a definition of Christianity as that. As I said before, in olden days it had a much more full-blooded sense. For instance, it included he belief in hell. Belief in eternal hell-fire was an essential item of Christian belief until pretty recent times. In this country, as you know, it ceased to be an essential item because of a decision of the Privy Council, and from that decision the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Archbishop of York dissented; but in this country our religion is settled by Act of Parliament, and therefore the Privy Council was able to override their Graces and hell was no longer necessary to a Christian.
I think that's a fairly decent jusitification for him to refuse to insist that a Christian must believe in hell.
No doubt it's stuff that you, as an Englishman just into University, should know.
And, in any event, what he does by not expanding the criteria of "Christian person" to include an imperative that they believe in hell, is to factor more people into the set of "christian".. It's making the term less specific, and hence his argument more difficult to prove.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-08-17 04:14 [#01955553]
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destroy two thousands years of culture...nah!!! ..but there are some mal-interpretions that has been done by bad people...yes!!!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-17 04:17 [#01955554]
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uh.. uhhhh.. what the hu?
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-08-17 04:23 [#01955557]
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the hu is here to stay
respect redrum,you one of my fav hus! how are hu?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2006-08-17 05:07 [#01955560]
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I posted this about a year ago
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-17 05:10 [#01955562]
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yeah, you probably did, but everyone hates you and wishes you'd fuck off and die.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-08-17 05:13 [#01955563]
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thats redrum,hu.
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-08-17 05:52 [#01955572]
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No, I like Monoid a bit.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-08-17 05:57 [#01955576]
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i dont like,but he is necessary
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-17 05:59 [#01955578]
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mm that figures.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-19 01:59 [#01956508]
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yeah, christianity sucks. buddhism is way better, less dogma and no gods.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-08-19 02:23 [#01956518]
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redrum. the avatar. where, how? hilarious.
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