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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-15 20:51 [#01954827]
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by Bertrand Russell.
Worth a read.
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2006-08-15 20:55 [#01954829]
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I like Bertrand Russell
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-08-15 20:56 [#01954833]
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im just human, just barely
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daLO
on 2006-08-15 20:57 [#01954835]
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fucking hippies
get high and think about how al queda is your friend.<--thats a fake ass american
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2006-08-15 20:58 [#01954836]
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I have ADD so I can't read the wh
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2006-08-15 20:59 [#01954837]
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I read this essay a few years ago...... can't remember any details but I do remember being impressed by hiseven nature, if that makes any sense.
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daLO
on 2006-08-15 21:01 [#01954840]
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blessed are the sick. my raps be the shit. your whole crew is counterfeit. kid i know you aint down to flip
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-08-15 21:10 [#01954846]
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Why I Am Not A Juggalo
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2006-08-15 21:14 [#01954849]
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That looks like a pretty good start for a Spawn episode.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-08-15 21:22 [#01954856]
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Hey glasse, I have been enjoying teh Pisgah, especially tracks 2, 3, 4
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daLO
on 2006-08-15 21:23 [#01954857]
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glasse=faggy brit
frontin like he's american Gay new fags ons his cornrows
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2006-08-15 21:24 [#01954859]
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Thanks I am glad you enjoy it. I am not in that band anymore, although I still release on Metanoia. I am going to do a release of material from those same sessions though, kind of like a remix/outtake thing.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2006-08-15 21:25 [#01954861]
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Your mom = faggy brit that is why she smokes all those fags plus their penises
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daLO
on 2006-08-15 21:27 [#01954862]
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sandal wearin flip floppin terrorist lovin kerry votin israel hatin mo fuckah
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2006-08-15 21:31 [#01954863]
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no more running people's threads (smacks hand on the black side)
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daLO
on 2006-08-15 22:46 [#01954883]
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anyone see stevo get punked by raekwon at rock the bells
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2006-08-16 00:00 [#01954910]
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whoa dude what if he is none of those things? you are still an idiot?
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daLO
on 2006-08-16 00:18 [#01954918]
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when u have a black DICK u cant keep the hoes off u and u dont want to
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-16 01:29 [#01954940]
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this writer singer explained the book job to me
he said it's not a justification of us having to take crap from god (over a bet with satan) but on the contrary it's a protest of man against the ways of god. singer said we're perfectly entitled to be pissed at god. this view is much better than just believing 'the lord works in mysterious ways' which means you have to take crap because you you're dumb and don't understand anyway. you don't have to be that way and you don't have to feel repentant all the time either
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sneakattack
on 2006-08-16 01:58 [#01954945]
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Bertrand Russell was a fucking paradox. For instance russell's paradox spurned many advancements in set theory (the move was already on..), and his solution was type theoretic.
HOT
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-16 03:24 [#01954991]
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YOU GOT ME OUT OF BED TO READ *THIS*?! *spits in your face. :D I'll read it anyway.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-16 03:24 [#01954993]
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:D
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-16 03:38 [#01954998]
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Argh this is just like my A-level Philosophy of Religion module and I presume just like my degree.
He presents some interesting points, but nothing groundbreaking or too original I don't think. I feel that he could've strengthened his arguments by using some more original ideas, although it is given in an easy to understand, digestable way, which makes it a good lecture
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-16 04:19 [#01955019]
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he also seems to have failed in refuting the natural law and argument from design arguments
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-08-16 04:35 [#01955025]
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hey come on, there's no god
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-16 04:38 [#01955026]
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enjoyed that
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-16 04:48 [#01955029]
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ill read it laters
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-08-16 04:53 [#01955033]
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Imho this text is not wortha lot of time. There are much better texts which have been written about on religion.
Eg: Theologico-political treaty by Spinoza.
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-16 04:59 [#01955038]
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but it's from 79 years ago..
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-16 05:00 [#01955040]
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ill read some sartre i dled maybe instead
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2006-08-16 05:10 [#01955045]
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I lived in Bertrand Russell in university. No really. Our tower blocks were named after philosophers.
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-08-16 05:30 [#01955055]
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A bit better, yeah.
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-16 05:46 [#01955065]
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I'm afraid to admit that by the time I'd got to that bit I'd got bored so just skim read the rest. Sorryyy. But upon further reading, yes you are correct, he just kind of sweeps it under the carpet more than anything else.
Big: don't be silly
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-16 05:55 [#01955080]
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don't be silly? i was going to raise that point. :O I think it's valid.. Unless there are some philosophers with the same views as he who lived a *considerable* time before Russell.
Drunken Mastah: Why do you say that?
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-08-16 05:58 [#01955081]
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He was a very nice person, kinda Chomsky's antecessor...
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-16 06:00 [#01955085]
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The section on the natural-law argument is slightly vague, i'll have to re-read it some day when i've actually slept the night before, but the section on the argument from design hits the nail on the head..
Lifeforms adapt to their surroundings. Read Voltaire's remark which he quotes again. I think it sums the inanity of the intelligent design argument up perfectly.
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-16 06:06 [#01955089]
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like, you just believe that
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-16 06:12 [#01955092]
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also being an atheist was still a big deal then, so a lecture about it was relevant because it advanced this new idea or at least the arguments behind it
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-08-16 06:17 [#01955093]
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yeah
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-16 06:17 [#01955094]
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well, that's dumb
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-08-16 06:41 [#01955101]
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You can't prove can God exists or not ; but the fact is it doesn't.
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-16 06:45 [#01955102]
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i was just kidding you may believe in your non existing god
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-08-16 07:28 [#01955118]
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yeah, you may also believe in father christmas
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-08-16 07:35 [#01955119]
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"On The Unveiling (the final track of the Shangri-La album), Insane Clown Posse revealed that the Dark Carnival is none other than God Himself."
DOH!
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-16 07:36 [#01955121]
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OKAY i will
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-16 07:38 [#01955122]
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Bertrand Russell is great, one of the few guys i read at uni and really enjoyed!
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-16 15:27 [#01955346]
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Well duuuuhhh.... Welcome to the 20th century, you guyzzz!!1!!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-17 02:55 [#01955515]
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the problem with the natural law argument is that he says that if god gave the natural laws on a whim, he is not subject to law, and as something, then, isn't subject to natural law, your "train of natural law is interrupted" without that actually making any impact to the argument one way or the other. He then, when handling the argument that god made everything to create the best world, he says that this would require god to use reason, and thus be subject to some law, but reason isn't in itself an external force or law; there are no universal guidelines for reason and even if there were, his statement that you gain nothing from having god in the equation misses the target, as you'd still need an actuator.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-17 03:01 [#01955517]
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and in the argument from design part, he tries to dismiss it because the world isn't perfect, but who said it's built to be perfect, and who said that humans weren't given a control over themselves? the way I seem to remember it, the world is a place where he put humans and gave them free will to see if they were willing to live good lives or something.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-17 03:10 [#01955518]
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thanx
much love
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