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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-05 18:16 [#01949330]
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So, I just went crazy and bought two new synthesizers. An Oberheim Matrix 6r, and a Roland SH-201. The oberheim came in the mail yesterday (impulse purchase on Ebay last week) and when I walked into my neighboorhood gear store today, I noticed that they had the sh in (I had been planning on buying one as soon as they got them in, but didn't know that it was in yet).
Boy am I happy. I will post pics and audio samples in the next day or so.
(BTW, the SH 201 is awesome. Usually roland hypes their synths up so much, that when you finally get to play one their is massive ammounts of dissapointment, but this one totally lives up to everything they have said. Great piece of gear for $700!!)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-05 18:17 [#01949331]
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That being said, I do wish that they used better materials for the sliders. They feel like cheap plastic. Everything else feels pretty sturdy tho ;)
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-08-05 19:16 [#01949353]
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Oh man, pictures please. I always love seeing your set up. It inspires me when I make music.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-05 19:20 [#01949354]
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Heh... serious?
I will post pics. But our digital camera is dying, so I can't guarantee how soon they will be. I am pretty proud of it now. I just moved my turntable beside the mpc, so things have been happening really fast. I hope to have some songs to show people very soon. ;)
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-05 19:24 [#01949356]
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SH 201?
I was thinking of getting a 202 'cause I heard the Human League used one on "Dare".
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-05 21:16 [#01949379]
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Its the new roland synth. It seems like a throwback their late 90's groovebox series.
Roland
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-06 03:39 [#01949519]
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The SH201 IMHO is way overpriced. I got my Alesis Ion for £400 and that had:
3 Oscs 2 Filters 3 Full Envelopes around 10 FX.
Swears: The Human League rocks!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-06 05:04 [#01949536]
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The alesis Ion retails for $350 more than the sh201. The ion is also multitimbral. All you can do with the sh201, is perform multi's or splits. I don't feel its overpriced though, and I have my share of both affordable and expensive equipment. The ion is remarkably underpriced for what it offers. However, the nord lead only has two oscilators as well, and it kills the ion in a blind taste test at the gear store. That being said, the evolver kills all of them, and that only cost me $450. Next runner up, the oberheim matrix, and that kills everything but the evolver (although, it has a much darker sound than the evolver, and the envelopes seem punchier) and that only cost me $300.
Anyways, if they still had the ions in stock around my neck of the woods, I would have one of those too right now. And unfortunately, I will have to pay at least $1050 if they ever get them in again.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-06 05:47 [#01949545]
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Another thing the sh201 has; it comes with a vst plugin that you can edit the parameters of the synth, send midi info, and audio to and from a computer, all through a usb cable. I am considering re-integrating a computer back into my setup for chord sequencing. I could find that usefull ;)
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-06 06:21 [#01949552]
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The theme music sounds like a 90's throwback.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-08-06 07:19 [#01949557]
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i was getting excited about the 201. it looks good, make it do some crazy shit then put up samples.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-06 07:20 [#01949558]
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Well, there are a lot of trance presets. If you want to make a lot of money in that industry, you have to cater to all the douchebags that have nothing better to do than to make music for clubs and raves.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-08-06 07:55 [#01949569]
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but some clubs and raves play good music!!?! :O:O
can it do dubstep wobbly basslines?
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-08-06 11:24 [#01949627]
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Yeah I was using it the other day, it`s pretty awesome! I like it better then the New Juno and that new Fashion shick thing korg is putting out.
Seems to be the smart investment if your getting into synths
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-06 12:00 [#01949650]
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It can, actually. That was one of the things I checked out when I was playing it. It does those low end sounds pretty well.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-08-06 12:13 [#01949656]
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yeah but can it go
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-06 12:29 [#01949669]
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Well, it does the wowowow. You just need to add some crack to make it sound like dubstep. You can't have dubstep without the crack.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-06 13:58 [#01949702]
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Crack baby crack.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-08-07 02:32 [#01949903]
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I wouldn't worry too much; the original 101's sliders don't feel particularly robust, but they usually last for years, even if gigged.
I like the look/sound of the 201, but I'd want a play with one (linked to a PC) before deciding.
Oxygenfad: What're the new Junos like?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-07 02:45 [#01949910]
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Hmmm. I kind of mean they feel like they were pulled out of a kinder suprise kind of cheap plastic. Its its worst point, the knobs and sliders. The buttons however, feel remarkably sturdy.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-07 03:18 [#01949928]
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Yeah, to me and my dad the SH201 looked very tacky.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-08-07 03:31 [#01949934]
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Bit of a shame. At £500 you want something to have half-decent build quality.
You think it'd be even more of an issue these days; I'd say an average bit of gear (now that software is so prevalent) is more likely to be gigged than, say, 10 years ago.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-07 03:40 [#01949941]
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I am going to be designing a template to go over it. Its a pity that it sounds so good, but looks like something a 13 year old would design.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-07 03:43 [#01949943]
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Yeah. Well, I guess they have to cut corners somewhere. Its pretty much the only complaint I have about it. The look of it and the build quality. I am pretty sure I can track down some better knobs and slider caps. I would like to see about getting skull knobs. I have always wanted something with skull knobs.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-08-07 03:49 [#01949948]
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Depends on the side of the knobs, but what I'd do is get some citadel minatures plastic skulls, cut them in half, so you have the front of the skull, but with a flat back and glue them onto the top of the knobs (painting them before glueing them on- make sure you don't paint any surfaces where glue will go though). If the knobs are fairly large, the shields from these skeletons should do:
Skeletons
Let me see what you end up doing, it sounds interesting.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-07 03:58 [#01949954]
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You can actually buy skull knobs for guitars. I want to see if they will be compatible with the knobs on this synth. That would be awesome!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-08-07 04:34 [#01949976]
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How do they work? Are they a slightly larger hollow knob that slides over the existing knobs?
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-07 10:29 [#01950054]
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I'm sure I've done better :D
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-07 13:19 [#01950150]
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No, you take the original knob off, and put these ones one.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-12 03:59 [#01969505]
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Ha ha, since posting this, my cutoff and res sliders (most used ones, I suppose) on my 101 have developed a crackle. Anyone know how to safely clean them? Is it the same as a mixer crossfader (as detailed here) which I've done before on other audio gear?
Ta in advance.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-12 04:04 [#01969506]
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just open it up and have a look; if it looks like you'll have to dismantle the whole thing or like you can't really reach the sliders, screw the lid back on. no damage done. if it looks like you can get them out, do so and clean them...
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