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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2006-08-04 21:12 [#01948962]
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OK.. We were assigned to do a couple of graffiti pieces for a (dull) record company on this (dull) festival in our home town. During an official after party at a hotel i went to the bathroom to take a piss. When i came back some guard was grabbing my mate by the nuts dragging him out (he had apparently offended one of the female executives of the record label in question). Me and another mate followed him and the guards holding him out in the lobby where they proceeded to (apparently unprovoced) nail him to the floor by the knees. This friend tried to stop them by word and by force, to which they answered agressively. Then they dragged him into a room where we could´nt see what they were doing to him. We waited, and people who witnessed the incident talked to us saying this was "totally fucked up". A couple of minutes later they took him out of the room. By now there was blood running down his face. There was'nt when he got in there. Police had now showed up. They handcuffed him and dragged him into a van. This friend of mine left a statement and was then told he was suspected of "assisting fleeing" because he tried to stop the guard of beating this guy up. I then gave the cops my contact/personal details telling them i´d like to follow this up.
I have never seen guards behaving this violently (they were three on one guy, and he could´nt have resisted in any way)
and i know i have no chance in following up this case. But does anyone have experience of this stuff, and what should i say?
*heavily drunk*
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-08-04 21:18 [#01948963]
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nobody had a video phone or anything? it will be hard to prove anything happened unless you can get a lot of witnesses to make statements.
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2006-08-04 21:22 [#01948965]
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yeah, thats the problem. i kept asking people for video phones during the beating but nobody had one, and the nonpartial witnesses left the scene long before we went into legal action. its shit.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-08-04 21:28 [#01948968]
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göterborgs kalaset ?
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-08-04 21:29 [#01948969]
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sounds fucked up
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-08-04 21:36 [#01948973]
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what comes around comes around
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-08-04 21:39 [#01948974]
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image of you asking around for video phones while your friend is getting beaten made me laugh.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-08-04 21:39 [#01948975]
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yeah that's fuked man : /
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-08-04 21:42 [#01948977]
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yeah funny .imagine your freind getting beaten up and you r doing the same
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-08-04 21:42 [#01948978]
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oh and you're drunk. ahahaha.
"*burp* mumble mumble.. Phone .. mumble. .. Could i *burp* use your phone?... mumble mumble...*glorp* That's my mate getting beat up .. .. mumble mumble... youTube thread... mumble *blorp*"
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-08-04 21:46 [#01948981]
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i guess thats the diffrent between us nordic people and your us people you always take things more lightly
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-08-04 21:54 [#01948986]
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Are you still waiting for the death?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-08-04 21:57 [#01948988]
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i can't help but laugh at the antics of drunk people. especially when it's other drunk people and not me.
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2006-08-05 06:24 [#01949130]
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Hhahahahah *mumble* youtube thread.. *burp*.. class No, the thing is, they were a whole bunch of really aggressive security guards (and one chef). anyone who tried to interfere got thrown out or held down. there was nothing we could do, thats why i thought i´d do something more reasonable and constructive and get someone to record it.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-05 06:28 [#01949131]
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ive had more fights with doormen than i care to mention,fucking wankstains the lot of them.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-08-05 06:30 [#01949132]
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ive had alot of fights with guards for skating.
there you go.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-08-05 21:31 [#01949385]
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no i am trying my best to not
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-06 03:05 [#01949505]
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Where are you from?
From my understanding of things out here, is that the only witnesses of the violence were the three guards and your friend. Probly the best thing that could have happened, was if you had called the police, and then it would have been in the system that they were holding your friend. If they didn't charter or warn him, then they could be held accountable for doing a citizens arrest wrong. If nobody else observed them doing this before they took him into the room, they could actually get in a lot of trouble. If its proven that they arrested your friend, he could press charges on them and then could sue the company for what happened.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-06 03:05 [#01949506]
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If its proven that they arrested your friend improperly, he could press
charges on them and then could sue the company for what happened.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-06 03:21 [#01949509]
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You are legally allowed one consequence free warning if you do a citizens arrest wrong for the first time. One time I saw this guy J-walking, and I threw him to the ground and gouged out his left eye with a spoon in an attempt to do a citizens arrest. A cop came up, and yada yada, turns out I had no idea of the proper procedures involved. We had a nice chuckle about it; all 3 of us, the j walker and I arm in arm. Then the cop handed me a FORK (only in retrospect does this seem obviously more proper) and I continued gouging his eyes in full compliance.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-08-06 12:13 [#01949657]
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he is from sweden.i think was at the same town festival celebration today in gothenburg
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