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offline Sigvatr from Brisbane (Australia) on 2006-08-04 10:27 [#01948757]
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Hello,

I'm very interested in learning how to compose electronica,
and psytrance in particular. However, I haven't the
slightest clue where to begin. Can anyone point me in the
direction of some good software and maybe even some
tutorials to get me started?

Peace,
- Sigvatr


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2006-08-04 10:31 [#01948759]
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Fruity Loops FL STUDIO Is a piece of software lots of
people start out with. Some people stick with it, some
people progress. There are tutorials in it, but there are
also people here who use it and have mastered it that would
help you with any questions, I'm sure. You can download the
demo for v6 from the site there, where you can do everything
(even save as .mp3 or .wav). The only thing you can't do is
save project files, so you have to do all your work in one
go. Unless you buy it, or crack it.


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-08-04 11:10 [#01948760]
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Download Re Birth.

It is soooo easy to get started and very good to learn all
the important things at the same time (how to program a drum
pattern, arrange a song). The results you will get from that
program will keep you inspired and excited enough to
continue making music :D

I find when starting, the hardest part is trying to get the
damn machine to work. For most of us music makers,
fruityloops at first glance is a walk in the park, BUT for
someone who has no idea what it is, the software can still
be like HOLY FUCK HOW DO I DO THIS.

I strongly suggest trying Re-Birth first, and then moving
onto Fruity loops in a few months.



 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-08-04 11:32 [#01948770]
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there you go, a free program to wet your feet and an
accessible program when you've got an idea of where you're
going. good advice...


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-08-04 11:41 [#01948775]
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Is Psytrance the future of music? Most people would say no.
I, for my part, think it's the only valid form of musical
expression worthy of soundtracking the 21st Century.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-08-04 11:47 [#01948776]
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lol


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-04 11:51 [#01948779]
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haha YES!


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-08-04 13:07 [#01948794]
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i swear to god if dog_belch stained his underwear straining
out a fart you'd clap your hands and laugh.


 

offline Sigvatr from Brisbane (Australia) on 2006-08-04 14:33 [#01948819]
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Fruity loops is really confusing, and I can't find any good
articles on the net. I think I might buy a book.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2006-08-04 16:52 [#01948867]
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what's psytrance?


 

offline oyvinto on 2006-08-04 16:59 [#01948869]
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have a look at max/msp


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-04 17:13 [#01948873]
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i probably would, yeah! there's an idea.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-08-04 19:29 [#01948936]
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floops is a headache. what a crock ofshit


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-08-04 19:51 [#01948939]
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offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-08-05 01:42 [#01949050]
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Most of this equipment and software will be confusing
without guidance. Once you get the hang of it, and
understand what all the knobs and controls mean, then it
starts to make sense. Don't be too intimidated. Just take
things slow. You probly aren't going to see immediate
results. Its going to sound awfull, and you will spend more
than half your time pulling out your hair trying to figure
out whats not working and what is.

Anyways, its best to start off with something like, like
rebirth or storm studio. That will allow you the tools to
make your psytrance, and learn what to do, so you can move
on to more mature tools. Rebirth is free, and once you
master those sequencers, everything else should be a breeze.


 

offline sirmailbox from chicago area (United States) on 2006-08-05 02:46 [#01949060]
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While there's not as much to learn about fruityloops as many
other composition programs, I've always found the features
that it DOES have to be counterintuitive. The fact that you
are forced to create loops, then arrange the loops into a
song is ludicrous and inexplicable. I'd recommend checking
out reason. The tutorial it provides in the help file is
very good, and the whole program just plain makes sense. The
only trouble is it doesn't support VST's (unless you do some
shit in conjunction with another program), but don't let
that worry you at this point.


 

offline staz on 2006-08-05 04:11 [#01949079]
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use DOS or some shit


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-08-05 04:17 [#01949086]
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Your suggesting reason as an alternative to a
counterintuitive sequencer?!?

Thats the one thing that everybody complains most about
reason.

With floops, its pretty easy to make your loops, copy them
and change what you need.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-05 04:24 [#01949092]
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i agree. i have floops and reason and use logic as well and
find it a lot easier to do what i want in fruityloops. if i
do use reason it is generally to make combinator patches and
then rewire it back in to floops. although having said that
i found reason a lot easier to start using then floops. when
you open up floops it seems like a pile of shit.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-08-05 04:30 [#01949096]
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True. Nowadays, when I use a computer, I will either open up
reaktor or reason. A lot of that has to do with the
interface tho. I like wires and jacks and knobs. I kind of
overkilled with floops too.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-08-05 04:32 [#01949097]
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However, a friend showed me ableton live the other week. I
am kind of thinking of buying a laptop to slave to my mpc
for chord programming in ableton, and patch storage.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-05 04:43 [#01949102]
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thats my mates setup. mpc, laptop, ableton, some NI plugins.
was using it the other day. he has some problems with
ableton and the mpc communicating though. mapping notes on
to random pads rather then in the proper order.



 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-08-05 17:59 [#01949324]
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Don't people wake up and say "I'd like to make music"
anymore?

Who the fuck feels inspired to make the same boring crap
everyone else is doing?

"HI I FEEL LIKE MAKING A HIP HOP TRACK! LEWLS"


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-08-06 20:51 [#01949846]
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They don't map to random pads. But drum maps don't go in the
logical order, as far as notes are concerned, so it will
seem confusing. He can change what note is supposed to be
assigned to what pad if he wants. It takes some time tho.

I don't want to even use vst plugins. Thats an easy trapfall
for me. I get too many plugins, and then get swamped with
trying to figure out what I want to make music with. Plus, I
like the sound I can get with hardware more.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-08-06 21:31 [#01949852]
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floops is easy. i stated using floops and still havnet
changed, infact i still use v.3, i havent moved to 6, feel
no need to.


 


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