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not so much analyse and learn, more of an journal entry for an experience that had alot of impact. I'm not going to study this, but I am going to learn from it. |
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Combining two different drugs at once is an interesting idea. |
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If a friend of mine did drugs and then started crying and pissing himself, I would have a laugh, bully him and post pics of the happening on the net. |
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sometimes we bring a camcorder along and tape some of our trips, glad I forgot the cam this time! |
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The swelling of hands/hands too big thing seems to be strangely common. It's weird to think that certain substances can have such specific effects on humans. Why big hands? I suppose that most people will end up looking at their hands a least a little... and size distortion of all things is common... but is that enough to make big hands common? |
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that's easier said than done, i find. i thought similarly before an intense trip on mushrooms, but i overlooked the fact that afterwards you can be left with strong mental associations that are difficult to shrug off, and just take time to go away |
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Once I got fucked on skunk and my hair felt like a pile of sand on top of my head. I spent ages runnning this "sand" through my fingers. |
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Would you suggest he masturbate, as "S" did? |
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Yeah I've had that too... it can be good I guess. I'm sure youve met one of these people whos had some immense acid experience and is convinced they understand something that nobody else can comprehend.. that's what's daft/annoying |
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that is an odd thing to come up with |
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Once I smoked some weed and it felt nice. Then I fell asleep. |
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Out of all the "mad shit" in that story, the weirdest bit, for me, was Gwelly's "sitter" suggesting he knocks one out. If I had a friend in those circumstances I'd suggest drinking orange juice/watching the Fast Show/eating a sandwich/ having a shower / a cup fo tea. I wouldn't say "Hey, look, just pop it out and crack one off, it's fine" and that's nothing to do with being anti-bender, it's just, for me, the strangest suggestion to make to someone ripped to the tits on the ill mush. |
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I agree. Plus nobody wants a tease one out with a hand covered in screaming faces |
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Absolutely. And non-MILF mother storming in could have some fun with him |
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go that's scary. my first (and only) acid trip was a bad one, now with this story i'm scared for life. suposeddly sucking a lemon takes you out of a shroom trip. |
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It was said out of best intentions. From what he observed, I kept saying that all I feel is tension and restriction, while making constipated sounds. This was because I had forgotten what my bladder was and that I needed to take a piss. I also kept saying that I needed to be knocked out and fall asleep. He suggested masturbation cause we all know that knocks you out after a good wank. It didn't bother me much, he was seeing his friend go crazy and suggested anything out of the blue. |
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thanks gwely, that's a riveting story... Having studied erowid reports intensively, none of the phenomena encountered are exactly novel (except for the people involved, obviously!), but first hand experience really teaches one more than simply reading about something. For some, bad trips are all they get, for others it's positive from cradle to grave. The rest of us are stuck in the middle territory, just like in life generally: there are good moments and there are bad ones. C'est la vie. Masturbation might go down better with only weed involved, and showers are likewise known to calm one down, but shrooming is unpredictable enough to make every sitter's job a uniquely creative effort. The same with all hallucinogens and entheogens. Weed is powerful enough for me (beer is harmful so I don't drink) for the time being. Until one has reached such-and-such a level (of clarity and confidence) one shouldn't overreach into the unknown. This is not an admonition, merely a precaution. I think the "normals" out there should remember that no one can say anything rational and apt about things they have no experience of (just like a father shouldn't claim to know about birth pains of a mother), and that experience is always unique. |
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After Mr T, Nancy Reagan, Jesus, the casts of Grange Hill and Different Strokes, your mum and the Police have all told you that winners don't take drugs, you still go ahead and POISON your bodies with this VILE FILTH. You should all be SHOT or put in JAIL. |
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jesus. . rough.. |
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wow man, my first bad trip was very very similar to what you explained. i think it was the excessive amount of weed i smoked while peaking on a huge dose of LSD. I've written about it several times on this forum actually. I became lost in my own head, didn't know where i was in the house i was tripping in. hallucinating so intesely that i couldn't tell whether my eyes were open or shut. unable to communicate with people around me because i couldn't tell whether i was speaking the words or just thinking them, let alone string together a cohesive sentence. for me it went on for a good 5-6 hours, i feared it would go on longer though, because of the size of the dose i had taken. pure mental torture. eventually i just came down enough that i could muster a bit of control which was such a relief. anyway, i know exactly the feeling of hopelessness and confusion that you described, and it ruined hallucinogens for me pretty much completely. after my first bad trip, every trip thereafter was tainted in a way. even the good ones, always that animal was lurking in the background and of course, the more i thought about it, the bigger it became. |
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even the good ones, always that animal was lurking in the background and of course, the more i thought about it, the bigger it became. Well said. I don't think I can do drugs anymore after that. When I quit weed 2 years ago because of constant bad trips, I started up again and there was always that feeling lurking, like this could get bad, and thinking about it manifested it more. Sounds like you had a terrible time, did time seem to cease for bits of it? Like you felt eternally insane? That was horrid. |
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yeah, for a good 2 hours, i just layed in my friend's parent's bed room but in my head i would keep getting up, walking downstairs and falling into the basement. then i'd open my eyes and i would still be upstairs in the bedroom. i'd get up again and walk down stairs and fall into the basement. this went on for what seemed like ages and as far as i know, and i can't be sure, i was in that bedroom the whole time. luckily the worst of it only lasted about 2-3 hours. but i distinctly remember asking my friends to knock me out because i thought i couldn't take it any more. asking them for Nyquil or something, anything. maybe they couldn't hear me though. at that point i couldn't tell if i was talking or just thinking words. I really think that weed was the kicker though. smoking all that weed just as we were peaking. i just couldn't keep up with my own thoughts. that summer i had a day job at a summer camp for retarded kids. i kept thinking that i had "gone over the edge" and that now i was like some of them. it was pretty awful. |
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weed was definitely the kicker, it amplifies the hell out of anything. I was peaking on shrooms when I did some. I bet I would have had a great trip if I hadn't. |
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it seriously was the most terrifying experience of my life though. its funny that you wrote "I had to write this before I forgot most of it." i would wager that you will never ever forget that night. |
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I thought I would end up retarded too, because I was walking and making sounds like one, thinking in the back of my mind "holy shit!" |
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Puts a new perspective on autistic, asperger or retarded people, doesn't it? Not to mention the schizophrenics and Dennis Hoppers of this world. |
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indeed. |
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I remember one particularly funny/pathetic occasion when a friend of mine sloppily jogged up and down a 100 yard street. When he came shambling back, grinning, I asked him "Why'd ya do that?" "'Cause I can run for miles really fast on weed, I don't feel the burn at all." Apparently in his head he'd ran about six miles at an olympic pace. |
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i probably tripped a dozen or so times after my bad bad one, but it was never as good, eventually i just stopped trying to have a good trip and gave up hallucinogens all together. the thought of it just kinda scares me now. don't know, maybe some day i'll try a tiny bit, just to see 'cause i definitely had some great times. but it would have to be a small amount, away from any responsibility, and away from any crowds with a few people that i trust. and definitely without any weed mixed in. |
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you needed to listen to some calming music. put some scriabin on or something. listen instead of self-reflection. |
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I would love to get someone on a nightmare trip, show them medical training videos of abortions, force feed them raw squid and laugh manicly in their face. Out of tune fairground music would also be a nice touch. |
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no no. show them graphic video of chicago-style stuffed pizza being served to hungry diners. then force feed them sugar cubes. follow up with a "death by chocolate" cd. much more disturbing. |
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It happens to us all eventually although your experience is a whole lot worse than anything that I had ever had. As for your friends Mom buy her a big bunch of flowers with a thank you note. She sounds pretty cool and level headed enough to get you through this. By the sound of it your tripping days are past, hell you can only do it for so long before stuff gets a bit too scary. You should write proffesionally, I rarely read threads this long!! |
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if there's a reason not to mess with sanity..... thats a fine example of what it's like without any. atleast you made it back to tell your story. lots of people end up at the bottom of rivers or under cars or dead by some other horrible manner... consider yourself lucky thas for sure. |
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i made a really really strong coffee once,took me ages to get to sleep. |
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My teacher said not to take LSD because of that boy who jumped out of a window 'cause he though he could fly. Or the one who walked out in front of a bus because he thought he was a ghost. lol |
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I like to get a tiny bit stoned on weed. Not get blasted. That keeps the anxiety at bay. THE most visual acid trip I ever had was combining good acid with a rip from a nice glass bong of kind bud. I would have gotten very nervous with just the weed, but I just had the best time while on acid. No anxiety. The opposite and I sat and stared at floating polygons with images in them for hours on end. It all started when I followed a reflection off something. It was a mazing and it probably got triggered by the weed. |
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i could be entirely wrong here, but it seems wrong to give up psychedelics after a bad trip. it was all in your mind. are you going to give up thinking too? i've never had a trip this bad, and i'm not looking forward to one, but when you create hell in your mind (because it's not the shrooms, not the acid or any other substance for that matter) you know there is an evil in there which should be found and conquered. If this is possible by means of ego death and being reborn (and with that becoming 'enlightened' and/or 'liberated' (these are very abstract terms to me since i do not know these states of mind so i type them in this way) then i think this is what you should pursue, and psychedelics are your tools if you do not know the ways of zen buddhism. not saying you blame the substance, and i do think it is wise to wait for a long time until you trip again. i just wonder if you're sure about this yourself. about giving up psychedelics, knowing that this will never get you an answer as to why you were drawn into a world of pain, fear, horror etc.. my typing/wording is shit today but i hope you get the idea. |
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Your right, but it is the memory of "the bad one" that stops you having the foundation of well being that is essential to all good trips. I found that smoking weed does nothing when I was tripping apart from hurt my throught in the morning. I always enjoyed an LSD/MDMA combination. |
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I believe in life we must go through different 'faces' , each facial expression representing a different emotion. These emotions have a corresponding energy, and these energy fluktuations influence not only our mood in life, choises or (in)direct -> our 'surroundings', but also has a direct link with the afterlife / 'ghost' world. The ghostworld feeds on the energy from our emotions, bad or good. A spirit with 'evil' intent can feed on the fear of someone in a badtrip, sometimes directing them towards suicide and death. Beware of drugsl. Now go watch some aurora's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_australis |
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I used to date a girl that shared a student house with a load of ravers, they would come back from shitty trance nights off their faces on trips and pills. They were all fucking terrified of "negative vibes". If the conversation turned towards anything on a downer, they'd skip out of the room humming to themselves. I couldn't fucking stand them, they listened to the worst commercial "hard dance" going and were the most boring, pedestrian squares you'd ever be likely to meet. Every other sentence ended with "On a mission." One of them told me to take Daft Punk's Da Funk off the stereo because it was "depressing". *shudders* |
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that's really interesting. |
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and funny |
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i'm missing jeopardy |
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a lack of sanity would be to keep that mustache. but that's just my opinion, man. |
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do you think you will do mushrooms again? |
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alot more has come back to me since 2 days ago, I do remember saying that I wish it would end and I could describe it, I prayed (which I never do) to just be able to get back and describe it, because getting there would mean escaping what I was in. |
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i've never had a trip this bad, and i'm not looking forward to one, but when you create hell in your mind (because it's not the shrooms, not the acid or any other substance for that matter) you know there is an evil in there which should be found and conquered. The thing about finding your inner issues (in this case evil abberations) and facing them and conquering is easier said than done. I'm sure many trippers would agree with me when I say this: If something horrific surfaces, it comes with a set of emotions, namely anxiety and terror, therefore you cannot just shake it off and say bring it on. It overwhelms any form of optimism to face it. I'm not doing psychedelics anymore, because something came out during this trip that can't just be attributed to a bad trip, it was some inner conundrum. Now that it came out, I can approach it in therapy maybe. But taking drugs again to reface it may cause even more problems, I may not come back next time. There are some people who end up in hospitals for decades because of that kind of heroic self conquering attitude. |
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What has your Dad said about it? |
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