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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-07-20 06:02 [#01940335]
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i cant see how to use reason to send midi to a synth, it must be able to do this... right? I want to use the sequencer in reason in to play a pattern on my synthezizor but all the manual talks about is how to make reason recieve midi from external sequencers.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-07-20 06:08 [#01940336]
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i'm pretty sure their is no midi out, short of exporting the midi itself. surely you'd be better with cubase or sommat for this?
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-07-20 06:09 [#01940338]
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bum. thats a really big restriction
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-07-20 06:12 [#01940343]
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yeah im definetly moving to logic or cubase as of soon
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-20 06:30 [#01940347]
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You're right, there is no MIDI out from Reason. However, you could ReWire it into a program that DOES do MIDI out. I know Ableton live is a ReWire Program but I don't know for sure that it does MIDI out. I'm pretty certain it does though.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-07-20 06:33 [#01940349]
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I think ReWire is just for sound, not midi...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-20 06:36 [#01940350]
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Nope, it allows you to transfer 56 audio tracks and 4080 channels of MIDI data.
http://www.propellerheads.se/technologies/rewire/
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-07-20 06:38 [#01940351]
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oops...
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-07-20 08:44 [#01940420]
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yep, Reason doesn't have the capability to control and trigger notes on external equipment/vst's
would be pretty cool though, but many people derride Reason for it's simplistic sequencer capabilities. i've always liked Reason because of it's "quick and dirty" way of working...no mess with the sequencer
kinda miss working with it...but oh well! your best bet would be to rewire into Cubase or something similar, and just use the host sequencer in your application to trigger the Reason modules - you'll get all the MIDI benefits from the host, and the sonic benfits from Reason
:)
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-20 12:19 [#01940589]
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High 5 dude!
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-07-20 12:27 [#01940594]
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FR-FR-FRESH!
hey man, you live fairly up north don't you? Fancy a meet up in Widnes in a couple of weeks? i'll be bringing all my Roland gear with you, you can play with my knobs
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-07-20 12:28 [#01940595]
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that was meant to read "...gear with me"
of course i'm in retardation therapy at the moment
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-07-20 13:09 [#01940615]
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I love reason, im scared to move cause I like it so much. I like the sound of what you said about cubase but I just hate having to learn new programs cause I take forever to get used to it and i always seem to encounter problems that result in needing to spend over a hundred pounds on a small box with cables coming out of it
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-07-20 13:16 [#01940618]
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well you shouldn't need to buy any extra hardware.
i do understand what you mean about having to learn a whole new package, it can be quite daunting. Reason isn't all that different from Cubase in terms of it's approach (or indeed any modern sequencer really)
do you live close to someone who has experience with Cubase, or some other form of DAW that can handle ReWire 2? Ableton Live does ReWire and you can control the modules inside Reason from Ableton Live's sequencer (i just never could get to grips with Live!!). some people find Live a cinch to get into, i must just be a retard!
You could use something like Cubase in a simple way, like you'd use Reason's built in sequencer and then you could pick up features as you go along.
one thing i must stress though - say you have a Matrix step sequencer hooked up to a Subtractor in Reason, and you like the pattern you've built in the Matrix box....there's no easy and simple way to get that into the Cubase sequencer.
i think you can trigger patterns on the Matrix by sending MIDI NOTE ON messages from Cubase and direct it to the Matrix from within Cubase....not too sure....it's been a while since i ReWired Reason into Cubase
:-s
i hope that whatever happens you find peace in you music creating environment :)
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-07-20 13:29 [#01940626]
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hahaha, thanks. i bought logic a year ago and then just went back to reason, i still probably know of less than half of its features... i never use the matrix sequencer cause it just seems to do less than the main sequencer but im sure im wrong. and I spent a few days on Ableton a few months ago and felt stupider than ever by the end of it.
All my mates use Cubase and it seems more logical for breaks so I think I should go that way. but I bought Logic express last year and have completely failed to use it so maybe I should work on that instead. harumph
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-07-20 13:34 [#01940631]
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i'm not too sure about the PC / Mac versions of Logic...what version are you running? you'd have to check that it was ReWire 2 compatible (otherwise you wouldn't be able to sequence the Reason modules from the host app, you'd only be able to sync the two programs)
the matrix sequencer is ok for getting old-school style little riffs, but in all honesty you can do pretty much the same thing in the sequencer as long as you know what you're doing.
i would've advised going round to a mates and getting them to show you the ropes in Cubase, but since you've made a purchase with Logic it might be economically viable for you to sit it out with Logic unless you get completely frustrated with it.
what hardware are you looking to control btw?
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