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[reason]can you send midi to a hardware synth?
 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-07-20 06:02 [#01940335]
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i cant see how to use reason to send midi to a synth, it
must be able to do this... right? I want to use the
sequencer in reason in to play a pattern on my synthezizor
but all the manual talks about is how to make reason recieve
midi from external sequencers.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-07-20 06:08 [#01940336]
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i'm pretty sure their is no midi out, short of exporting the
midi itself. surely you'd be better with cubase or sommat
for this?


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-07-20 06:09 [#01940338]
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bum. thats a really big restriction


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-07-20 06:12 [#01940343]
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yeah im definetly moving to logic or cubase as of soon


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-20 06:30 [#01940347]
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You're right, there is no MIDI out from Reason. However, you
could ReWire it into a program that DOES do MIDI out. I know
Ableton live is a ReWire Program but I don't know for sure
that it does MIDI out. I'm pretty certain it does though.


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-07-20 06:33 [#01940349]
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I think ReWire is just for sound, not midi...


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-20 06:36 [#01940350]
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Nope, it allows you to transfer 56 audio tracks and 4080
channels of MIDI data.

http://www.propellerheads.se/technologies/rewire/


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-07-20 06:38 [#01940351]
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oops...


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-07-20 08:44 [#01940420]
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yep, Reason doesn't have the capability to control and
trigger notes on external equipment/vst's

would be pretty cool though, but many people derride Reason
for it's simplistic sequencer capabilities. i've always
liked Reason because of it's "quick and dirty" way of
working...no mess with the sequencer

kinda miss working with it...but oh well!
your best bet would be to rewire into Cubase or something
similar, and just use the host sequencer in your application
to trigger the Reason modules - you'll get all the MIDI
benefits from the host, and the sonic benfits from Reason

:)


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-20 12:19 [#01940589]
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High 5 dude!


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-07-20 12:27 [#01940594]
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FR-FR-FRESH!

hey man, you live fairly up north don't you?
Fancy a meet up in Widnes in a couple of weeks? i'll be
bringing all my Roland gear with you, you can play with my
knobs


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-07-20 12:28 [#01940595]
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that was meant to read "...gear with me"

of course i'm in retardation therapy at the moment


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-07-20 13:09 [#01940615]
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I love reason, im scared to move cause I like it so much. I
like the sound of what you said about cubase but I just hate
having to learn new programs cause I take forever to get
used to it and i always seem to encounter problems that
result in needing to spend over a hundred pounds on a small
box with cables coming out of it


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-07-20 13:16 [#01940618]
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well you shouldn't need to buy any extra hardware.

i do understand what you mean about having to learn a whole
new package, it can be quite daunting. Reason isn't all
that different from Cubase in terms of it's approach
(or indeed any modern sequencer really)

do you live close to someone who has experience with Cubase,
or some other form of DAW that can handle ReWire 2? Ableton
Live does ReWire and you can control the modules inside
Reason from Ableton Live's sequencer (i just never could get
to grips with Live!!). some people find Live a cinch to get
into, i must just be a retard!

You could use something like Cubase in a simple way, like
you'd use Reason's built in sequencer and then you could
pick up features as you go along.

one thing i must stress though - say you have a Matrix step
sequencer hooked up to a Subtractor in Reason, and you like
the pattern you've built in the Matrix box....there's no
easy and simple way to get that into the Cubase sequencer.

i think you can trigger patterns on the Matrix by sending
MIDI NOTE ON messages from Cubase and direct it to the
Matrix from within Cubase....not too sure....it's been a
while since i ReWired Reason into Cubase

:-s

i hope that whatever happens you find peace in you music
creating environment :)


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-07-20 13:29 [#01940626]
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hahaha, thanks. i bought logic a year ago and then just went
back to reason, i still probably know of less than half of
its features... i never use the matrix sequencer cause it
just seems to do less than the main sequencer but im sure im
wrong. and I spent a few days on Ableton a few months ago
and felt stupider than ever by the end of it.

All my mates use Cubase and it seems more logical for breaks
so I think I should go that way. but I bought Logic express
last year and have completely failed to use it so maybe I
should work on that instead. harumph


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-07-20 13:34 [#01940631]
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i'm not too sure about the PC / Mac versions of Logic...what
version are you running? you'd have to check that it was
ReWire 2 compatible (otherwise you wouldn't be able to
sequence the Reason modules from the host app, you'd only be
able to sync the two programs)

the matrix sequencer is ok for getting old-school style
little riffs, but in all honesty you can do pretty much the
same thing in the sequencer as long as you know what you're
doing.

i would've advised going round to a mates and getting them
to show you the ropes in Cubase, but since you've made a
purchase with Logic it might be economically viable for you
to sit it out with Logic unless you get completely
frustrated with it.

what hardware are you looking to control btw?


 


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