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offline hobbes from age on 2006-07-10 16:41 [#01935422]
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well said. people are acting so preciously about this
whole incident... as if he had to be some sort of superhuman
devoid of feelings and emotions.

i love how in the UK the press have been really hard on
him, saying it's mainly what he will now be remembered for
and it's soooo bad blah bollocks blah woo hah cantona.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-07-10 17:17 [#01935430]
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BEST ! :D


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-07-10 17:27 [#01935431]
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that's the choice we have now, is it?

either be a "some sort of superhuman devoid of feelings and
emotions" or kick the shit out of anyone who says something
that might hurt us?




oh as if I even care one shit about football, let alone
footballers. I'll get me coat.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2006-07-10 17:46 [#01935435]
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yes, the use of "but" made the sentence meaningless.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2006-07-10 17:47 [#01935436]
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makes sense


 

offline hobbes from age on 2006-07-10 20:58 [#01935487]
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lol

not AT ALL what i meant but you can interpret my words that
way if you want to, or if it made you feel all nice inside
to think i would mean such a thing...

the myth of the hero is a complex one, basically, that's
all (and i'm not calling him the hero here). and yeah
football football fine you don't care about it, but you
can't neglect the huge deal this sport has become (amongst
others).

anyway i don't even care that much, i just find it
hilarious how many people are so quick to judge the guy,
it's frankly hilarious.

btw it's not the fact he hit someone i want to stress
about, but the fact he has flaws and it's fucking normal. it
seems like none of you have ever flipped out before.. and
you may think he should behave as it's the world cup finals
but then don't you reckon it might also must be very
difficult to cope with...

the ambiguity is something i like in "heroes" , anti-heroes
or what have you .

bah i dunno

i can hear people already "but it's not normal to headbutt
someone, it's bad for the kids, he ruined his life etc..."


and here is my final word on this matter : OK




 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-07-10 21:06 [#01935489]
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Similarly, when Ron Artest went into the crowd to punch a
guy that dumped a beer on him, I was surprised at just how
big a villain he was portrayed as. Dumb thing to do, but...

Athletes just doing dumb things, that's all. They're spoiled
and not smart, but they're probably pretty OK when you're
not dumping beer on them or using racial slurs on them (or
whatever the Italian guy did).


 

offline hobbes from age on 2006-07-10 21:11 [#01935490]
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yeah let's categorize!
so athletes are a different species are they?
plonker

i guess you're all saints, yet not very understanding
ones.



 

offline hobbes from age on 2006-07-10 21:13 [#01935492]
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oh wait, i misread bits in my haste of fury :)



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-07-10 21:21 [#01935495]
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I didn't mean to single out athletes there. That was my
bitterness over not making millions taking over (the
''spoiled'' quip). In fact the reason I was so surprised he
was crucified for it was because I was thinking I would have
done the same thing if I was in his shoes. Something stupid.
I'd be as dumb as they were.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2006-07-10 21:33 [#01935496]
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maybe had Zidane have been born and raised in Canada he
would have made a pretty good hockey player.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2006-07-10 21:36 [#01935497]
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should have read that again.... *toddles off to bed*


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-11 03:03 [#01935551]
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please, say to your nice french housemate that we are "dirty
fucking italians" but we also are WORLD CHAMPIONS.

"smile, you are NOT on candid camera"



 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-11 03:10 [#01935553]
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"there are quite a few italians that are quite dicks. there

are also some very nice ones, but they can be real assholes

sometime"

italians, germans, slovenians,... i think humans are all the
same, so you should change the text above:

"there are quite a few PERSONS that are quite dicks. there
are also some very nice ones, but they can be real assholes

sometime"

Klemen Lavric (Slovenia)



Attached picture

 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-11 03:14 [#01935554]
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THE ARE SOME IDIOTS IN ALL COUNTRIES... and these are not
just my words... as you can verify here

\/\/.



 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-11 04:33 [#01935590]
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Another nice video


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-07-11 04:46 [#01935595]
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It started out nice but the reference towards France at the
end is pure weakness.


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-11 04:52 [#01935597]
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Yeah, those frames towards the end were a bit cruel for them
indeed.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-07-11 05:26 [#01935621]
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i was talking about football players there. and surely every
national team has their pricks. slovenia sure does. zahovic
iz the biggest idiot of them all. but the thing with italy
is that they spoil football players the most so they get a
little unreal and think they can do just about anything.
that is one of the reasons why i appreciate delpiero so
much. he is surely one of the biggest italian stars and yet
he seems like a very down to earth guy. same goes for
gattuso. all he cares about seems to be football and i
really like that.


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-11 06:06 [#01935662]
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Alessandro DelPiero is also my fav player inside and outside
the field, he's a great champion.
I never saw DelPiero give headbutts during his long career
and i hope he will never will do it.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-07-11 06:11 [#01935665]
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people don't often call him a terrorist do they? :)

if zidane wasn't provoked i doubt he would do that you know.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2006-07-11 07:24 [#01935699]
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and zidane is not the kind to provoke.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2006-07-11 08:57 [#01935737]
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yeah he even smiled at him after the shirt holding bit just
before, and even just then you can see matt saying something
and zidane walks off with his face not so smiley anymore...
then the guy opens his shit hole yet again... lucky this
was on a pitch and that it was zidane i say.

zidane got sent off and might get more disciplinary shit
against him... mazeratti got the cup.


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-11 09:07 [#01935739]
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zidane Saint, materazzi devil

i think it was just a football match with bad words and
insults from materazzi (troll behaviour) and a bad reaction
of zizou (not an good thing). tons of football matches are
full of this kind of provocation, fortunately there are not
headbutts so often.

the difference is that materazzi is a common defensor, who a
bad temper and he's not very intelligent, while zizou is a
celebratd champion, who is playing the grandfinal and his
last match of career.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-07-11 09:10 [#01935746]
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i never thought i'd say this, but you are about a hundred
times more annoying than tridenti at the moment.

i wish you'd take your armchair-jock bullshit and fuck off.
take it to worldcup-masturbation.com/mb, you smug moron.

"smile, you are NOT on candid camera"
retard.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-07-11 09:14 [#01935750]
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"who is playing the grandfinal and his
last match of career. "

why does that mater? of someone would insult your mother
would you first think what match you're playing and how many
people are watching and then react?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-07-11 09:19 [#01935753]
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I just don't get why people get so upset if someone insults
their mother. Obviously whatever they say, is just said to
piss you off. If they call your mother a whore, obviously
it's not true. You know this. Why get all bothered? If
someone called my mother a whore, I'd just be like, um,
whatever. Getting pissed, is doing exactly what the person
who said it was trying to achieve.

And getting violent about it is even worse. Does hitting
someone make what they said invalid? Its just words. They
are as insulting as you let them be.

Given, it could be different if your mother is in the
hospital etc... but Im talking in general. Theres also a
thread on watmm about this, and people say that insulting
someones mother is reason enough to respond. It just seems
silly to me. I don't understand.


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-11 09:20 [#01935754]
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clap, clap, clap... standing ovation... a long applause to
r40f aka "THE BRAIN"


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-07-11 09:24 [#01935756]
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maybe your mom didn't breast feed you..makes all the
difference.


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-11 09:25 [#01935757]
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I agree with you.

That used to happen to me a couple of times and I just
ingored the person who gave me the insult. I didn't want to
react not because I'm a looser but because I was aware of
this:

"Does hitting someone make what they said invalid? Its
just words. They are as insulting as you let them be."


Anyway we still are not sure on what Materazzi said.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-07-11 09:27 [#01935760]
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this are grown up people (even with a brain of a child) not
some kids though. and zidane isn't just someone not
important.


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-11 09:28 [#01935761]
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not a nice answer imo :-/

this discussion is surpassing the line... where are the
mods? huh... one is here...



 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-07-11 09:30 [#01935762]
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your mother is surpassing the line


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-07-11 09:31 [#01935764]
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haha, jav guys, this isn't going anywhere..


 


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