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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-07-10 09:20 [#01935104]
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ZIBLAM!!!!
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-07-10 09:22 [#01935108]
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.ZIDANERMAN
turns out he was saving him from a sniper!
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yann_g
from now on 2006-07-10 09:27 [#01935118]
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-10 09:30 [#01935125]
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Hahahah @ Taffy!
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-10 09:33 [#01935135]
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can someone translate it?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-07-10 09:34 [#01935138]
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hahhahah :D class
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2006-07-10 09:35 [#01935141]
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80s nes
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-10 09:38 [#01935147]
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HAHAHHAHAH!!!!! :D
That's excellent!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-07-10 09:54 [#01935150]
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it's so dumb..too dumb to translate really. who ever wrote that seriously lacks sense of humour or they just didn't intend to be funny.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-10 10:11 [#01935158]
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c'mon, translate it goran the man... please
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-10 10:12 [#01935159]
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AHAHAHAHH... it's too funny!!!!!!!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-07-10 10:22 [#01935162]
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i don't think it's even a joke really.
"ho vinto quasi tutto in calcio..forse posso continuare la mia carriera come un' artista al circo, o qualcosa simile"
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glasseater
from Switzerland on 2006-07-10 10:49 [#01935173]
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LOL excellent situation for the end match !!!! I HATE FRANCE THEY SHOULD SUFFER NOW
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-07-10 10:49 [#01935174]
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chi ha vinto?
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yann_g
from now on 2006-07-10 10:58 [#01935181]
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come get your headbutt
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-07-10 11:02 [#01935184]
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haha. he's swiss..they're bitter :)
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yann_g
from now on 2006-07-10 11:05 [#01935186]
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but more than bitter they're nothing
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glasseater
from Switzerland on 2006-07-10 11:08 [#01935187]
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No, I dont care about football at all, even less about world cup, it's all money and drugs and people try to explain you it brings the contries together in a big bubble of love, it's hypocrism at its best !
french people are usually beyond belief when they defend their opinions. All the swiss people were mostly calm about the world cup, ring me if you see one swiss player using his head as a weapon for a stupid match.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-07-10 11:09 [#01935188]
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they're all too affraid to show their emotions. if someone said something bad about your mother would you just stand there?
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glasseater
from Switzerland on 2006-07-10 11:15 [#01935190]
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at 3 minutes of the ending of my carreer I would at least try !
And thats a stupid excuse, they must insult each other everytime they cross each other, too bad they dont have micros on them !
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yann_g
from now on 2006-07-10 11:20 [#01935191]
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man you've got your ideas a little mixed up and linked in a funny personal fashion! it does bring the country together. hypocrisy in those explanations can only come from people getting money from the world cup and they're a small part. hypocrisy is just part of any business btw.
sure the swiss people were calm, they knew from the beginning they wouldn't win it, and honoured their expectations. then zidane's head was not used as a weapon for a stupid match, it was the reply to a serious insult, during a not-so-stupid match. come on why do you hate france?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-07-10 11:20 [#01935192]
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i like him for what he did. it's silly one would have to put up with shit only because of a football match.
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yann_g
from now on 2006-07-10 11:20 [#01935193]
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come on, i guess you like idm but don't be a fookin robot.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-07-10 11:34 [#01935200]
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I only think violence is justified, when its in response to violence (and even then, not always). I do not respect him at all for doing this, even if Materazzi DID say something about his mother in the hospital. Why not just say "fuck you you piece of shit" and then play on, and beat them, and shove it in their face that way?
Sure, emotions and adrenaline were probably running high, but it still doesn't justify it. I think its sad/pathetic.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-07-10 11:36 [#01935201]
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why would he cry about it. that's for sissy italians and portugals to do :)
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yann_g
from now on 2006-07-10 11:42 [#01935204]
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ok, you should start with the idea that nobody's perfect, and that some goals are absolutely unreachable for some when they're easily achieved for others.
btw it's easier for physically weak persons to explain that violence is always bad than for physically strong persons. i wonder why.
also, you have no idea what happens in one's mind. zidane is someone who doesn't speak, he is extremely shy and reserved, he is extremely sensitive therefore can suffer extremely from a few words. this is a problem that takes ages to solve when it can be solved. and it's a problem he is not responsible for. we all have bad habits, some can lead to violence even is there are no bad intentions.
he did something forbidden, was punished for it. materazzi is a cunt, i'd think he deserved it (a heavy injury would've been better maybe). he is too old to be taught with words how to behave.
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yann_g
from now on 2006-07-10 11:44 [#01935205]
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btw. physical violence is nothing compared to psychological violence. i never wanted to hit someone who hitted me, unless i feel like i need to defend myself. words get much deeper than hands/heads/feet.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-07-10 11:48 [#01935209]
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I agree. I just don't think he should be praised for it.
And I'm sure Materazzi provoked it. I'm not saying he's innoccent... I'm just saying violence was a stupid way to handle this situation.
Like I said, there was a lot of pressure and tension that probably enhanced everything, but it doesn't justify it. It doesn't make it right. And he certainly shouldn't be praised for it.
And how do you know if I'm physically weak or strong?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-07-10 11:50 [#01935211]
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it's easy to talk for poeple whos most exciting event is when they see sun come up in the morning :)
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-07-10 11:52 [#01935214]
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i'd agree with you 100%. the italians, however, did play a very dirty game, and i think zidane had just had enough.
sure, he has a bad temper, but i think it would take a lot for a man, any man, to do such a thing on his farewell game (and a world cup final of all things..)
as my french housemate said last night.. "dirty fucking italians.."
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-07-10 11:57 [#01935216]
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I think it's funny, come on ... a HEADBUUT TO THE CHEST. During OVERTIME in the last match of the WORLD CUP. And it was his retirement game!
Yeah what he did was wrong, but it wasn't that bad. It's not like he farted in his hand and slapped Marco's Mom in the face or anything.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-07-10 11:58 [#01935217]
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and who would that be?
redrum: dirty = headbutting someone
and I don't like sweeping statements like "dirt fucking italians". "dirty fucking materazzi" is fine, but "dirty fucking italians" just comes off very bigoted (imo)
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yann_g
from now on 2006-07-10 11:58 [#01935218]
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I agree. I just don't think he should be praised for it.
And I'm sure Materazzi provoked it. I'm not saying he's innoccent... I'm just saying violence was a stupid way to handle this situation.
Like I said, there was a lot of pressure and tension that probably enhanced everything, but it doesn't justify it. It doesn't make it right. And he certainly shouldn't be praised for it.
no, he surely shouldn't be praised for it. and he's not. the only problem is that he was an example for many kids in the poor cities/areas (= generally violent) and he gave a really, really bad example. i'm pretty sure kids will try to imitate this impressive head-butt.
what i was saying is that sometimes you have no other choice than violence and i don't think it should be called "stupid" it's just animal. what's stupid is to pretend we're not, or to forget we are.
And how do you know if I'm physically weak or strong?
turn your webcam off 8P
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-07-10 12:00 [#01935220]
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there are quite a few italians that are quite dicks. there are also some very nice ones, but they can be real assholes sometime.
remember this?
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yann_g
from now on 2006-07-10 12:00 [#01935221]
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agreed. "dirty italian football players" is ok though ;)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-07-10 12:00 [#01935222]
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well, I was refering to people in this thread saying stuff like "that was awesome" and "im glad he did it" etc.
I agree about the rolemodel thing for sure.
and just because something is animal, doesn't mean its not stupid. It can certainly be both.
and HA! I'm too poor to own a webcam!
... :(
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-07-10 12:01 [#01935223]
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and plenty of other players from all over the world that can be dicks too
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yann_g
from now on 2006-07-10 12:03 [#01935225]
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and just because something is animal, doesn't mean its not
stupid. It can certainly be both.
well this topic deserves a forum of its own because we would have to redefine intelligence and probably wouldn't succeed in agreeing on a definition. i think animality cannot be judged in terms of "intelligence/stupidity".
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-07-10 12:04 [#01935227]
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mostly the spoilt ones mostly. the thing is football is one of the most important things to italians and players are being really spoilt..they start to think they're gods or something and get real cocky. not all of them ofcourse, but that's the attitude lots of them have..more than in other teams abyway.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-07-10 12:06 [#01935228]
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"just comes off very bigoted (imo)" I totally agree!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-07-10 12:09 [#01935229]
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yeah, its a whole different topic, which I really don't want to get into.
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Dozer
on 2006-07-10 13:21 [#01935254]
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-07-10 13:25 [#01935259]
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Totti..... He spat my old high school teachers son in the face!
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-07-10 13:45 [#01935271]
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hahhahahahahahahaha
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yann_g
from now on 2006-07-10 14:42 [#01935328]
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HAHAHA too short though
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imdex
from Argentina on 2006-07-10 15:16 [#01935354]
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HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA
Thanks!
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2006-07-10 15:23 [#01935361]
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href="http://www.strangereaction.com/imagehost/albums/userp another one/a>
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2006-07-10 15:24 [#01935364]
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ops
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2006-07-10 16:32 [#01935415]
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I just heard on Newsnight that the insult might have been racial but I don't care what the wop said; that frog should never have butted him. (You see what I did there?!)
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Dozer
on 2006-07-10 16:34 [#01935417]
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BETTER A RED CARD THAN A FACIST
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