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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-28 18:41 [#01929089]
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Anybody here done any sets at parties lately? Anybody managed to clear the dancefloor?
I've had one or two fun nights where the crowd have been totally up for the music, but also one or two disasters where the room gradually emptied due to a lack of judgement on my part on the kind of music to play. I suppose being fairly competent at mixing and beat-matching isn't enough when you can't choose the right tunes for the night...
Perhaps some more hip hop, dance and pop would help.
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2006-06-28 18:55 [#01929091]
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one time i was opening for bjork and instead of playing tracks, i just streamed raw binary data from my harddrive for 2 hours at maximum volume..
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-06-28 18:56 [#01929093]
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boom boom
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-28 19:04 [#01929094]
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"I suppose being fairly competent at mixing and beat-matching isn't enough when you can't choose the right tunes for the night..."
No shit, Einstein. Beatmatching is just the icing on the cake. People wanna hear sweet jams. And if they're being nicely mixed, that's a bonus.
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staplemouth
on 2006-06-29 03:04 [#01929178]
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blew the speakers at a party years ago, and people kept asking me to play Nelly instead of "wierd songs"
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staplemouth
on 2006-06-29 03:07 [#01929179]
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also had to leave a cd playing for a while becausse of a sudden urge to take a dump
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-06-29 03:27 [#01929184]
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you mean SWIFT jams, Watson
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-06-29 03:39 [#01929185]
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i stopped dj'ing because too many fucking hipsters dont really dig the music i played. like hearing something from ken ishii is the worst thing that could happen to their party or gig, or a track from autechre. thelooks on faces when you play something original is kinda like theyve just stepped on a sting ray.
if i lived somewhere else id probably still do it but for now i live in dallas and its full of hipsters. punches to the face will be administered
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2006-06-29 03:52 [#01929189]
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"WTF is that?"
"Play something with words!"
"Sounds like someones hung the phone up..... beep beep beep."
you can all go and get fucked.... you wouldn't know good music if it crawled out of your arse....... go back to your "house", your "progressive", and your "thumping techno"..... wankers.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-29 04:25 [#01929205]
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Yeah, and stuff like ken ishii or some of Autechre's earlier material is hardly difficult to dance to imo. Requests are a pain, especially when people are agressive...
There's been fun times too, though.
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2006-06-29 04:46 [#01929219]
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Wanna FILL a floor? I once played Nightflight to Venus by Boney M. The floor disappeared...
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-06-29 05:04 [#01929231]
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I've only DJ'd once or twice, a friend of mine used to do these kind of "Art" projects and he used to have a club night once a month, with music and then bits of performance inbetween, and I was just doing the fucking warm up background music before it got started. And some fucking harpy climbed up into the DJ booth started having a go at me for playing "trendy electronic crap" (I think I was playing, at that second, as the memory is burned into my brain, Luke Vibert's mix of "Emotion Heater") and that she wanted "80s music"... and I tried to explain it was just a warm up.. she would not leave the booth, banging on at me, until I just had to say over and over again "Will you please fuck off?" She ruined half of my bloody 15 minute set, screeching in my ear. Afterwards a friend who was there with me said I'd been the crossest a person he'd ever seen that didn't actually get angry, which sums up my life, really. And then this cow bought me a drink. Never go to arty "club" nights.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-06-29 05:40 [#01929244]
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I dont really know how to please people, I only DJ for mates anyway. I usually get some pop and cheesy stuff in cause it gets a few people dancing
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big
from lsg on 2006-06-29 05:44 [#01929246]
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your lifestyle pays off: one beer :)
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-06-29 06:33 [#01929260]
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You can't argue with those figures.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-29 06:51 [#01929264]
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I've always been pretty lucky in regards to crowds. I've never had a disaster.
Admittedly, I've never asked for money to DJ but I have been paid anyway before. That was nice. The best set I ever did was for a mates housewarming in Brighton. The council turned up and served us with a noise protection order thing. I was pretty proud of that. I did another gig for a friends 18th and that should've been a tough crowd because it was ages 6-60 but everyone loved it. That's the one they gave me money for anyway :D
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-06-29 06:52 [#01929266]
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dj'ing is about playing the crowd. if your crowd are dickheads, give them dickhead music.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 07:03 [#01929272]
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Alter Ego - "Rocker" No that's a sweet jam, everybody loves that.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-06-29 07:11 [#01929277]
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It's a fuckin top record. There's even a plasticman remix so idm snobs can appreciate it.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 07:19 [#01929283]
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Really? I'll have to hear this.
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inkinen
from Sweden on 2006-06-29 07:22 [#01929286]
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it all depends on what you are there dj:ing for.. do you want to get a party rocking or do you want to educate people with strange stuff? dont be surprised if people at a house club gets annoyed if you select the most obscure noise/idm/experimental stuff..
:P
cheers!
http://www.viceland.com/issues/v11n5/htdocs/hey.php
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 07:27 [#01929290]
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She's basically right. Although mixing sounds nice, it's fun.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-06-29 07:29 [#01929293]
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It's not a particularly good remix (I normally like plasticman, but this is quite weak) and it doesn't include an awful lot of the original, but here is the release it's from.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 07:36 [#01929295]
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The Erol Alkan remix is wicked, too. He's a good DJ, actually, the perfect combination of sweet jams, good mixing and crowd pleasing. I always have a fun night when I see him.
If I had to play for non-dance music crowd...... well, I just wouldn't.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-06-29 08:18 [#01929312]
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I used to DJ at rock nights and you can play some decent stuff. They liked come to daddy, dust brothers, fluke's atom bomb, FSOL "we have explosive" and other "rocky" dance music/electronica.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-06-29 08:21 [#01929314]
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from my experience no one cares about mixing or beatmatching. the tunes you pick matter.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 08:23 [#01929317]
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I just couldn't bring myself to play a load of shit like The Kaiser Cheifs or something. It's better to play to a crowd who understand what you're doing, not a bunch of nerds, but people who really love dancing and
pounding pounding techno music.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 08:25 [#01929319]
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True, I think if you're playing a dance set though, it's nice to have little bits of other records coming in, it's enjoying two records at once, double the fun!
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-29 08:46 [#01929339]
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Yes, that's why I play crap and decent stuff.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-06-29 08:52 [#01929340]
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I CLICKED ON THIS POPUP AD ONCE IT WAS LIKE
DANCE FLOOR CLEARING??? NO WORRIES, M8
SO I CLICKED IT
ENDED UP TAKING ME TO THE ENDING DUB OF AUGMATIC DISPORT
WOW!!!
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-06-29 09:08 [#01929357]
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I suppose you can only really play a set as you would like to hear it, personally if a DJ plays dance music and doesnt mix Im not impressed. And i dont see the point if your not going to do that. If someone asks me to DJ and they want something specific that Im not really into I'd rather just say no than try to bullshit my way through it. All I can really do is start off quite varied and play some electro and acid and hiphop and rave tunes and chart pop and 80s classics, and see if they go down well. I dont think I would ever play any autechre besides incunabula
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 09:11 [#01929358]
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IDM would be completely off the menu for me. That's music for listening to at home. I mght start a set with a minute of "Rock On" by Jackson or something, but then it's straight into the beetz.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-06-29 09:12 [#01929360]
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mixing doesn't hurt ofcourse, im just saying people in general prefer to hear good tunes to dance to than some dj exhibitions.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-06-29 09:32 [#01929366]
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agree
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-06-29 09:32 [#01929367]
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Yep. Track selection is vastly more important to the crowd than your ability to synch two 4/4 133bpm house tracks together.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 09:33 [#01929369]
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Yeah, but it's fun to hear a bit of a record you like over the top of another record you like.
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Bill Burroughs
from Colombia on 2006-06-29 10:01 [#01929393]
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shit
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 10:02 [#01929397]
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piss
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-06-29 10:58 [#01929428]
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exactly; when you hear something start to come in and youre all like 'I recognise that' and its fackin lush
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 11:09 [#01929438]
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exactamundo
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-06-30 03:07 [#01929728]
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Don't get me wrong; I do it and even drop snippets of the next track into the previous one long before the "mix" starts, for the reason Dannn_ said.
It's just that a lot of people start out learning to DJ and the sole thing they focus on is learning to beatmix, when as has been said, it's really just the icing on the cake. DJing "showing off" outside of a DJing competion/playing for other people who DJ and understand what you're doing is a bit silly if done to excess. I'm sure you've seen someone play and thought, "Yes, I know you can loop these 2 bars by hand indefinately, we get the idea, now let the track play!" Again, it's something I do, but in moderation and it's not the most important thing.
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Sepix
from Major City (Austria) on 2006-06-30 03:11 [#01929730]
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http://stuntrock.com/
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-30 05:04 [#01929762]
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The only time I've played a song I didn't like was because I was dared to mix it. Uptown Girl was indeed mixed and it worked quite well. Still hate the song though.
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staz
on 2006-06-30 05:17 [#01929766]
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never dj-ed out because i'd want to play my own music and i don't think people would be very receptive to most of it
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2006-06-30 06:13 [#01929799]
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i played fingerbib on vinyl in a set that was warming up to an experimental live act and lots of folks wondered what it was..
chuffedest moement of my life
in the same set i played tetra sync, an lp5 track, some kenny everet voice over stuff and v-proc and some phoenecia
v-proc was my fave to play live.
on the other hand i go seriously frowny looks when i stuck on "psultan" remix before but then again they were all techno heads at that party....
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-06-30 07:54 [#01929831]
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"
never dj-ed out because i'd want to play my own music and i
don't think people would be very receptive to most of it "
QFT!
v-proc would be hot to drop. you can grove out to that track like any hip hop beat.
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