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offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-28 18:41 [#01929089]
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Anybody here done any sets at parties lately? Anybody
managed to clear the dancefloor?

I've had one or two fun nights where the crowd have been
totally up for the music, but also one or two disasters
where the room gradually emptied due to a lack of judgement
on my part on the kind of music to play. I suppose being
fairly competent at mixing and beat-matching isn't enough
when you can't choose the right tunes for the night...

Perhaps some more hip hop, dance and pop would help.


 

offline chaosmachine from Ottawa (Canada) on 2006-06-28 18:55 [#01929091]
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one time i was opening for bjork and instead of playing
tracks, i just streamed raw binary data from my harddrive
for 2 hours at maximum volume..


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-06-28 18:56 [#01929093]
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boom boom


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-28 19:04 [#01929094]
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"I suppose being
fairly competent at mixing and beat-matching isn't enough
when you can't choose the right tunes for the night..."

No shit, Einstein. Beatmatching is just the icing on the
cake. People wanna hear sweet jams. And if they're being
nicely mixed, that's a bonus.


 

offline staplemouth on 2006-06-29 03:04 [#01929178]
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blew the speakers at a party years ago, and people kept
asking me to play Nelly instead of "wierd songs"


 

offline staplemouth on 2006-06-29 03:07 [#01929179]
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also had to leave a cd playing for a while becausse of a
sudden urge to take a dump


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-06-29 03:27 [#01929184]
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you mean SWIFT jams, Watson


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-06-29 03:39 [#01929185]
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i stopped dj'ing because too many fucking hipsters dont
really dig the music i played. like hearing something from
ken ishii is the worst thing that could happen to their
party or gig, or a track from autechre. thelooks on faces
when you play something original is kinda like theyve just
stepped on a sting ray.

if i lived somewhere else id probably still do it but for
now i live in dallas and its full of hipsters. punches to
the face will be administered


 

offline darkpromenade from Australia on 2006-06-29 03:52 [#01929189]
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"WTF is that?"

"Play something with words!"

"Sounds like someones hung the phone up..... beep beep
beep."

you can all go and get fucked.... you wouldn't know good
music if it crawled out of your arse....... go back to your
"house", your "progressive", and your "thumping techno".....
wankers.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-29 04:25 [#01929205]
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Yeah, and stuff like ken ishii or some of Autechre's earlier
material is hardly difficult to dance to imo. Requests are a
pain, especially when people are agressive...

There's been fun times too, though.


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2006-06-29 04:46 [#01929219]
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Wanna FILL a floor? I once played Nightflight to Venus by
Boney M. The floor disappeared...


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-06-29 05:04 [#01929231]
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I've only DJ'd once or twice, a friend of mine used to do
these kind of "Art" projects and he used to have a club
night once a month, with music and then bits of performance
inbetween, and I was just doing the fucking warm up
background music before it got started. And some fucking
harpy climbed up into the DJ booth started having a go at me
for playing "trendy electronic crap" (I think I was playing,
at that second, as the memory is burned into my brain, Luke
Vibert's mix of "Emotion Heater") and that she wanted "80s
music"... and I tried to explain it was just a warm up.. she
would not leave the booth, banging on at me, until I just
had to say over and over again "Will you please fuck off?"
She ruined half of my bloody 15 minute set, screeching in my
ear. Afterwards a friend who was there with me said I'd been
the crossest a person he'd ever seen that didn't actually
get angry, which sums up my life, really. And then this cow
bought me a drink. Never go to arty "club" nights.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-06-29 05:40 [#01929244]
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I dont really know how to please people, I only DJ for mates
anyway. I usually get some pop and cheesy stuff in cause it
gets a few people dancing


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-06-29 05:44 [#01929246]
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your lifestyle pays off: one beer
:)


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-06-29 06:33 [#01929260]
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You can't argue with those figures.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-29 06:51 [#01929264]
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I've always been pretty lucky in regards to crowds. I've
never had a disaster.

Admittedly, I've never asked for money to DJ but I have been
paid anyway before. That was nice. The best set I ever did
was for a mates housewarming in Brighton. The council turned
up and served us with a noise protection order thing. I was
pretty proud of that. I did another gig for a friends 18th
and that should've been a tough crowd because it was ages
6-60 but everyone loved it. That's the one they gave me
money for anyway :D


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-06-29 06:52 [#01929266]
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dj'ing is about playing the crowd. if your crowd are
dickheads, give them dickhead music.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 07:03 [#01929272]
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Alter Ego - "Rocker"
No that's a sweet jam, everybody loves that.



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-06-29 07:11 [#01929277]
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It's a fuckin top record. There's even a plasticman remix so
idm snobs can appreciate it.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 07:19 [#01929283]
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Really? I'll have to hear this.


 

offline inkinen from Sweden on 2006-06-29 07:22 [#01929286]
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it all depends on what you are there dj:ing for.. do you
want to get a party rocking or do you want to educate people
with strange stuff? dont be surprised if people at a house
club gets annoyed if you select the most obscure
noise/idm/experimental stuff..

:P

cheers!

http://www.viceland.com/issues/v11n5/htdocs/hey.php


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 07:27 [#01929290]
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She's basically right. Although mixing sounds nice, it's
fun.



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-06-29 07:29 [#01929293]
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It's not a particularly good remix (I normally like
plasticman, but this is quite weak) and it doesn't include
an awful lot of the original, but here is the
release it's from.



 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 07:36 [#01929295]
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The Erol Alkan remix is wicked, too.
He's a good DJ, actually, the perfect combination of sweet
jams, good mixing and crowd pleasing. I always have a fun
night when I see him.
If I had to play for non-dance music crowd...... well, I
just wouldn't.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-06-29 08:18 [#01929312]
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I used to DJ at rock nights and you can play some
decent stuff. They liked come to daddy, dust brothers,
fluke's atom bomb, FSOL "we have explosive" and other
"rocky" dance music/electronica.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-06-29 08:21 [#01929314]
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from my experience no one cares about mixing or
beatmatching. the tunes you pick matter.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 08:23 [#01929317]
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I just couldn't bring myself to play a load of shit like The
Kaiser Cheifs or something. It's better to play to a crowd
who understand what you're doing, not a bunch of nerds, but
people who really love dancing and
pounding
pounding
techno
music.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 08:25 [#01929319]
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True, I think if you're playing a dance set though, it's
nice to have little bits of other records coming in, it's
enjoying two records at once, double the fun!


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-29 08:46 [#01929339]
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Yes, that's why I play crap and decent stuff.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2006-06-29 08:52 [#01929340]
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I CLICKED ON THIS POPUP AD ONCE
IT WAS LIKE

DANCE FLOOR CLEARING???
NO WORRIES, M8

SO I CLICKED IT

ENDED UP TAKING ME TO THE ENDING DUB OF AUGMATIC DISPORT

WOW!!!


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-06-29 09:08 [#01929357]
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I suppose you can only really play a set as you would like
to hear it, personally if a DJ plays dance music and doesnt
mix Im not impressed. And i dont see the point if your not
going to do that. If someone asks me to DJ and they want
something specific that Im not really into I'd rather just
say no than try to bullshit my way through it. All I can
really do is start off quite varied and play some electro
and acid and hiphop and rave tunes and chart pop and 80s
classics, and see if they go down well. I dont think I would
ever play any autechre besides incunabula


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 09:11 [#01929358]
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IDM would be completely off the menu for me.
That's music for listening to at home. I mght start a set
with a minute of "Rock On" by Jackson or something, but then
it's straight into the beetz.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-06-29 09:12 [#01929360]
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mixing doesn't hurt ofcourse, im just saying people in
general prefer to hear good tunes to dance to than some dj
exhibitions.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-06-29 09:32 [#01929366]
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agree


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-06-29 09:32 [#01929367]
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Yep. Track selection is vastly more important to the
crowd than your ability to synch two 4/4 133bpm house tracks
together.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 09:33 [#01929369]
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Yeah, but it's fun to hear a bit of a record you like over
the top of another record you like.


 

offline Bill Burroughs from Colombia on 2006-06-29 10:01 [#01929393]
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shit


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 10:02 [#01929397]
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piss


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-06-29 10:58 [#01929428]
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exactly; when you hear something start to come in and youre
all like 'I recognise that' and its fackin lush


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-29 11:09 [#01929438]
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exactamundo


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-06-30 03:07 [#01929728]
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Don't get me wrong; I do it and even drop snippets of the
next track into the previous one long before the "mix"
starts, for the reason Dannn_ said.

It's just that a lot of people start out learning to DJ and
the sole thing they focus on is learning to beatmix, when as
has been said, it's really just the icing on the cake. DJing
"showing off" outside of a DJing competion/playing for other
people who DJ and understand what you're doing is a bit
silly if done to excess. I'm sure you've seen someone play
and thought, "Yes, I know you can loop these 2 bars by hand
indefinately, we get the idea, now let the track play!"
Again, it's something I do, but in moderation and it's not
the most important thing.



 

offline Sepix from Major City (Austria) on 2006-06-30 03:11 [#01929730]
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http://stuntrock.com/


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-30 05:04 [#01929762]
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The only time I've played a song I didn't like was because I
was dared to mix it. Uptown Girl was indeed mixed and it
worked quite well. Still hate the song though.


 

offline staz on 2006-06-30 05:17 [#01929766]
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never dj-ed out because i'd want to play my own music and i
don't think people would be very receptive to most of it


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2006-06-30 06:13 [#01929799]
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i played fingerbib on vinyl in a set that was warming up to
an experimental live act and lots of folks wondered what it
was..

chuffedest moement of my life

in the same set i played tetra sync, an lp5 track, some
kenny everet voice over stuff and v-proc and some phoenecia

v-proc was my fave to play live.

on the other hand i go seriously frowny looks when i stuck
on "psultan" remix before but then again they were all
techno heads at that party....


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2006-06-30 07:54 [#01929831]
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"

never dj-ed out because i'd want to play my own music and
i
don't think people would be very receptive to most of it
"


QFT!

v-proc would be hot to drop.
you can grove out to that track like any hip hop beat.


 


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