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[TR-808] MIDI retrofits?
 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-06-28 14:29 [#01928914]
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my 808 has the Groove Electronics MIDI retrofit, which only
has a MIDI IN and a MIDI THRU.

i'm considering getting hold of the Kenton MIDI retrofit kit
which has MIDI OUT.

first of all, does anyone know if it's possible to remove
the existing Groove Electronics MIDI kit and to replace it
with the Kenton one?

secondly, is the velocity sensitivity increased with the
Kenton one? The Groove one only has 16 levels of velocity
sensitivity, and some sounds are not very responsive - the
snare is really shit at responding to MIDI velocity :(


 

offline vveerrgg from life (Canada) on 2006-06-28 14:40 [#01928923]
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oooooh.. a 808..... sweet!

no idea on the retrofits.. but you better be making some
manic sick electro with that badboi.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-06-28 14:43 [#01928924]
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yeah man, i already programmed the beats from Planet Rock
into it

sounds fucking sick man..especially when it's sync'd to my
606....pure analog drums! (can't really class the 909 as
pure analog, what with the sampled hihats and cymbals)


 

offline vveerrgg from life (Canada) on 2006-06-28 15:11 [#01928937]
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hold your tounge. I have a 909 and I think it sounds quite
enchanting.

k it's no 808. but still....


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2006-06-28 15:18 [#01928940]
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what do you want to use the midi out for? midi thru is teh
shiz


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2006-06-28 16:17 [#01928978]
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Ask this question on analogue heaven or vintagesynths. Why
you would trust an answer here I have no clue.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-06-28 16:23 [#01928989]
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because this is an electronic music messageboard, and there
are quite a lot of electronic musicians on here

myself included

i would trust the views and opinions and guidance given
here, because most of the people on here seem to know their
shit

:)


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-06-29 04:47 [#01929221]
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Analogue filters on those samples. Analogue enough.

Have you looked into getting any of the old sequential gear?
I always hear you talking about roland stuff. Thought about
getting yourself a six track, or a prophet 2000, or a pro
one? IMO: Sequential > (Moog + Roland + Yamaha)


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-06-29 04:54 [#01929224]
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You know, I wouldn't really risk removing one retrofit and
installing another, unless you know they can work together
(which could be a possibility, but I don't know I am not a
good circuit bender). It occurs to me, that the risk of
unsoldering the original retrofit and then soldering a new
one, you could risk frying the board or killing the circuits
they would be soldered to. If you have it done, make sure
its in the hands of someone you really trust. I wouldn't
risk it just for the midi out. There are plenty of other
sources for that kind of sequencing that would have midi
out. Unless you are just looking to use it as a master
clock, which I don't necessarily see the benefit of when you
can just slave it to something less archaic in your studio.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-06-29 06:38 [#01929263]
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Taxidermist

yes im desperate for a Pro One! as soon as i can afford it i
think it will be my next gear purchase!

and yeah i know about the analog filters on the 909, but i
was being a complete purist! lol. to be honest i think the
606 and 808 go better together than the 909 and 808...dunno
why

ahh see i thought that would be a problem with the soldering
and stuff...oh well, at least i have some MIDI on it

thanks for your help man :D


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2006-06-29 12:32 [#01929499]
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Maybe cause the 606 and 808 sound wet. Send you machine to a
tech. They could probably remove the retrofit for little
money.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-06-29 13:48 [#01929531]
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(hypnotic)You need a 12 bit sampler/synth with analogue
filters. You want a prophet 2000. You want a prophet
2000.(/hypnotic)

Have you thought of going non vintage and getting an evolver
desktop for 650us? Or even the monophonic keyboard :) :)You
can get the same sound out of an evolver, plus it gives you
so much more.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-06-29 14:02 [#01929535]
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well i really still want a Pro One, but an Evolver Keyboard
would be something to look into...

i am trying to go for actual keyboard synths rather than
just modules as my main focus will be the ability to have
things going live, and i prefer to have built-in keyboards
with stuff... i know that in the end things will cost more,
but i believe that the ability to just hit the keys at the
synth and get the sound is more important.

i'll definitely look into an Evolover though....i'll have to
see if i can find a place in Birmingham that has them on
show so i can have a listen to one.

i only have 2 digital pieces in my kit, and to be honest i'd
prefer to keep it that way...if i want more than just my
Nord and Machinedrum for digital sounds, i can fire up
Reason on someone's PC :)


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-06-29 14:11 [#01929540]
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Yeah, but you can choose not to use the digital sections in
the evolver. Pure analogue goodness. :)

Take my word for it. Nothing touches the evolver.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2007-01-07 14:10 [#02027946]
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Can you get the Fenix Funk 808 patterns on your 808? Or do
you think they were a mixture of sample loops and single
hits?


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2007-01-07 14:50 [#02027974]
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how about getting yourself decent gear to record all that
analogue stuff? I heard your jams and they sound like shit
(quality wise).
get a mixer, soundcard, etc etc....


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-01-08 03:24 [#02028185]
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how about you give me some money to buy said decent
recording gear?

:p

i'm jobless, i'm paying £75 a week rent on a room in a
shared flat in Burton-upon-Trent right now, and i have less
than £700 to live on and pay my loan repayments off for
this month. after that i'm in shit street without a
noseplug.

i know i need decent recording equipment, yes the output of
late does sound shit. but i have told people that it sounds
like shit - it's not like i'm passing it off as the next
analord stuff or anything.

if and when i can get a job, and get a decent place to stay,
i shall get all my equipment back again from storage (yet
again) and buy some recording gear.

for now, i need to worry about whether or not i can afford
to live next month

but thanks for listening :)


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-01-08 03:27 [#02028189]
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well since i am in fact The Aphex Twin i am not really at
liberty to divulge how i made my track titled Fenix Funk 5,
but i can assure you that i used decent quality recording
gear.

ah fuck it, i may as well tell you - i programmed my Casio
watch to sequence 12 Casio SK-1 samplers, which each had a
single hit from the 808

how good am i?


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2007-01-08 08:03 [#02028317]
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Im thinking ht e 808 in fenix is a midi'ed up one. You could
buy a 2 track reel 2 reel for next to nothing. A 15 ips
machine would give you a great sound.


 


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