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i'm looking into doing more trickery with my trusty mouse and computer... but not for synthesizers or samples... i'm wanting to manipulate beats into some concrete way, but i'm stuck on what to use... what good software is out there for making fat beats that come off as sounding completely mental? |
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oh and this thread came about because i am listening to Autechre's "sublimit" right now and i have always been in complete amazement by this track. i love the way the beats are organized for our ears enjoyment. |
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fl |
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already have it and no, it doesn't do sound justice. |
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At first I thought it was a Mexico vs. Lincoln war but im taking "fl" to mean Fruity Loops. Bazing |
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Quoth, don't you have a machine drum? You could do sick things sending midi to it from something like max or puredata. |
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what kind of midi data can i send to max? like, would it be able to record all the sysex shite that i tweek on the machine drum? what is puredata? a link? |
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disregard... cool i found a link... this shite is free, eh? |
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Ableton Live is a good all-around program for arranging loops, but I don't know if it's the best simply for beats. |
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The blind leading the blind. |
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Do you care to elaborate? |
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VST mah man FL is a canvas VST's are the mutha fuckin paint you spalsh on all over here is a good place to start and they are FREE, most of them I think http://www.tobybear.de/ |
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ok, you don't know what you're talking about. |
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Well then, what whould you suggest? |
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I'd say, forget putting 'Beats' into software to make them 'mad'. |
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here is a better source for free VST http://www.kvraudio.com/ sorry toby bear used to be free now they are only demo versions. |
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to give you an idea. If pd is overwhelming download the max demo and tutorials and see how much you can learn in a month before the demo times out. Max has the BEST documentation and tutorial material of any software ever. You can learn stuff from it that can be applied in any other modular programing type of software - pd, reaktor, etc |
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making music with vsts is so lazy |
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everyone says that DBLue Glitch is too cheesy, but the new version is great. |
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glitch isnt too cheesy its too easy to muck it all up takes the fun out of creating |
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exactly, put some damn work into a track |
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Reaktor as a standalone is great. You can do a lot of the same manipulative stuff as you can in max, with less of the work, and its more suited for electronic music. |
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The best way to do it is making some cool sounding oneshot samples and then sequencing everything in a midi-matrix within your favorite host..But you can also do the same with a (software) drum machine so that you can tweak the parametres of each sound along with the progression of the track if that's something you'd want. |
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can Apple Script do things with all the programs that you can run, so you can record events under apple script and then just run that, and it will play it back as you've tweeked it under a set amount of time? |
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Jivver> "ok, you don't know what you're talking about." hahahahlolehahahah hes from kansas give my neighboor a break, hes not in the almighty Europe Kingdom |
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Microsoft Sound Recorder |
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windows sound recorder or ovalprocess. |
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thats pretty weird, swears. |
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YOu have a machine drum and you are asking how to make fat beats with something else? |
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cut paste cut paste cut paste |
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treat the computer like an instrument. no one's going to tell you how to make good guitar songs. figure it out yourself in other words. |
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No! If you slavishly but all the latest software/hippest vintage gear, you will automatically become the next IDM superstar! It has nothing to do with ideas or talent. |
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*but=buy |
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seriously, man. I think glitch VST is going to kill a lot of popular avenues for sound in this genre. i think some great shit is on the horizon though! |
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ie a nice symbiosis between experimental electronics (not VSTs) and live stuff... the possibilities are endless. like asa chang and junray |
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The most interesting things in electronic music always come out of cheap, shitty, uncool equipment. Look at the 303. It was considered a piece of shit by 1988, because flashy digital synths like the DX100 had come out. is still my fave softsynth ever. (Don't get it confused with the inferior floops version) |
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Word. Music for me and a lot of other people has always been about an almaglomation of skill, creativity and expression. Take out the skill and creativity, and you loose a lot of what matters. When the sum of something is greater than its parts, and it only has one part to speak of, then you don't have shit. |
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I think glitch VST is going to kill a lot of popular avenues for sound in this genre. You mean for musicians because everyone's bored of that sound, or for programmers because everyone will use glitch vst instead of something else? |
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i love useing native intrumenst metaphysical for random audio fuckery! great fun! |
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Well, people will stop using that vst eventually because nobody will want to listen to it. |
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i used it on a song i didn't realise it was gonna be such a trademark sound vst :/ |
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Ha, ha! What makes you think people outside of IDM give a fuck about glitch now? |
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I have downloaded glitch vst and have the following comments about glitch vst: - horrible sound quality like a foil anus farting - interface looks like it was intentionally designed to prevent inspiration - "penis" |
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What makes you think I am talking about people outside IDM? |
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I want to make music that inspires the thought "foil anus". Oh wait.. |
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I don't know. |
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